COVID Passport thread

aynrus

Kingfisher
Unfortunately I tend to agree.

Things will move a bit more slowly in the US due to how the government here is structured and the need to buy over some key corporate interests, but if you are in the UK the situation is much like being in East Germany and noticing that there’s a wall going up.

You need to get out NOW.
Anything, any way. Take an English teaching job somewhere if you have to. If you don’t need a new job have some kind of work that’s currently remote you should pick up the phone today and call up a lawyer to get started on picking up one of those remote worker Visas that exist.
Taking English teaching job or remote worker visa means being a visa guest of the country who has not many rights, really, and can be kicked out at any moment, once the government policy changes.
I'd target countries with easiest permanent residency options.
 
If I was living in the UK I'd fly to Mexico and cross the border into the US if need be. They want to be concentration-camp island. It's actually a shame they're not in the EU anymore. The EU was slightly less radical.
Mexico for sure. There are pockets of expats all over. South of Guadalajara near Lake Chapala. San Miguel de Allende. Sayulita. You can find Facebook groups to gather more info.

I don’t know how long you could stay or if there is a path to citizenship in place by buying real estate. Could also look somewhere like Costa Rica.
 
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Easy_C

Peacock
Taking English teaching job or remote worker visa means being a visa guest of the country who has not many rights, really, and can be kicked out at any moment, once the government policy changes.
I'd target countries with easiest permanent residency options.
You are correct, but the first step is to just get out as fast as you can. Ideally you’ll target a country where that path exists easily but if you can’t get in there right away take what you can get.
 
Mexico for sure. There are pockets of expats all over. South of Guadalajara near Lake Chapala. San Miguel de Allende. Sayulita. You can find Facebook groups to gather more info.

I don’t know how long you could stay or if there is a path to citizenship in place by buying real estate. Could also look somewhere like Costa Rica.
Mexico has some of the least restrictions in the world at the moment, but will that continue? They are very close and heavily influenced by the USA, who have one of the highest vaccination rates and Biden has already expressed some support for vaccine passports.

I suppose citizenship by marriage could be a possibility. Perhaps not a good idea if you’re rich.
You are correct, but the first step is to just get out as fast as you can. Ideally you’ll target a country where that path exists easily but if you can’t get in there right away take what you can get.
I am personally tempted to stay in the UK, despite the fact the restrictions are slightly over the top. There are benefits to being around similar people in familiar surroundings.

I don’t think the government will be able to push the control that much further here. The English people are freedom loving, intelligent and resourceful. They can appear weak and passive, until they aren’t. It is no accident that we once dominated the world, and have contributed more to human achievement and moral progress than probably any other country in world history.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
The issue with betting on Euro genetics is that the best of those Euro genetic lines were wiped out during the two World Wars.

Even assuming you’re right, the outcomes to staying are:

Upside case: You’re in the middle of a war zone experiencing all the horrors that go along with that.

Downside Case: You’re living under Communism 3.0 empowered by a dystopian tech regime.
 
The issue with betting on Euro genetics is that the best of those Euro genetic lines were wiped out during the two World Wars.

Even assuming you’re right, the outcomes to staying are:

Upside case: You’re in the middle of a war zone experiencing all the horrors that go along with that.

Downside Case: You’re living under Communism 3.0 empowered by a dystopian tech regime.

I would be surprised if an outright authoritarian communist technocracy could be established here. We are not conformist collectivist chinese, illiterate 1920’s Russian peasants, or rule worshiping 1940’s Germans, depleted of men by war. I don’t know all the potential variables though, perhaps modern technology could be the difference. If that is truly what the tptb want, they will have people in think-tanks with iq’s far higher than me, who believe they can make it reality. I suppose only time will tell.

I don’t think the two world wars had a significant dysgenic impact in Western Europe. We lost very few men in percentage terms, as compared to the USSR or even Germany. Two of my great-great grandfathers survived, despite personally volunteering for roles with the highest mortality rates. Our welfare state and the discouragement of intelligent women from having children has had by far worse an impact.

If communism 3.0 can be established in Britain, it can be established anywhere, even the USA. This means you probably have a decade at most before it has subdued the entire world. Moving will likely only delay the inevitable.
 
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gat

Pigeon
I’m getting on a plane in 3 days and did a pcr test for travel. They also do vaccines at that pharmacy. I offered to bribe the woman who stuck the qtip down my nose to get vaccine papers and she said no one would do that due to risk of getting caught/trouble with the law or losing their job.
I offered $200 in cash . And this is in the hassidic ghetto of Brooklyn nyc.

I tried but it doesn’t look too promising

Try to find a friend or friend of a friend who is in (or was in) pharmaceutical sales. They know many doctors and tend to know their political leanings. That's your best chance in my opinion.

Possibly browsing your LinkedIn might turn up a couple that you could reach out to for 'recommendations on where to get privately vaccinated'.
 

Mountaineer

Pelican
Gold Member
I’m getting on a plane in 3 days and did a pcr test for travel. They also do vaccines at that pharmacy. I offered to bribe the woman who stuck the qtip down my nose to get vaccine papers and she said no one would do that due to risk of getting caught/trouble with the law or losing their job.
I offered $200 in cash . And this is in the hassidic ghetto of Brooklyn nyc.

I tried but it doesn’t look too promising
Where to? Moving permanently?
 

aynrus

Kingfisher
I’m getting on a plane in 3 days and did a pcr test for travel. They also do vaccines at that pharmacy. I offered to bribe the woman who stuck the qtip down my nose to get vaccine papers and she said no one would do that due to risk of getting caught/trouble with the law or losing their job.
I offered $200 in cash . And this is in the hassidic ghetto of Brooklyn nyc.

I tried but it doesn’t look too promising
In Brooklyn, Brighton Beach is the center of illicit stuff. But not as obvious as talking to the random pharmacist.
You might have success with a shady little medical clinic...There're a lot of all kinds of things those small clinics are sometimes involved with.
Like this one: a ring of medical professionals run a scheme billing for non-existent and non-necessary medical tests and procedures (this is widespread in certain parts of Brooklyn):
They targeted low-income areas -- including a soup kitchen in the East New York section of Brooklyn and a job center in the Bushwick section -- and paid people cash of $30 to $40 in exchange for going to a clinic for unnecessary tests, prosecutors said.
But got to speak the language, if not they probably won't trust. Got to have some local immigrant girlfriend, who might be hired escort or something to do the talking. Used to be lots of illegal girls in Brighton, who could do legwork of searching for contacts for reasonable compensation, I think.
 

eradicator

Peacock
Gold Member
In Brooklyn, Brighton Beach is the center of illicit stuff. But not as obvious as talking to the random pharmacist.
You might have success with a shady little medical clinic...There're a lot of all kinds of things those small clinics are sometimes involved with.
Like this one: a ring of medical professionals run a scheme billing for non-existent and non-necessary medical tests and procedures (this is widespread in certain parts of Brooklyn):

But got to speak the language, if not they probably won't trust. Got to have some local immigrant girlfriend, who might be hired escort or something to do the talking. Used to be lots of illegal girls in Brighton, who could do legwork of searching for contacts for reasonable compensation, I think.

I know just who to ask thanks. And good thinking
 

aynrus

Kingfisher
There's a word among US HR industry that companies will be "strongly suggesting" but not mandating the poison.

They don't want to deal with legal compliance nightmare of handling medical and religious exemptions, especially since the risk from the flu is close to none, especially for working-age persons - less trouble for corporations than from dealing with exemptions and lawsuits, such as if someone was required to get poison and gets adverse effects or dies. They expect most to be sheep and get injected, so the few that will refuse - they think won't pose enough threat to them, since the vaxxed are supposed to be "protected".
There's also confidentiality of medical information minefield, as generally employers can't ask medical condition-related questions, so if someone claims medical exemption from the poison, they're stepping into that minefield if they start asking questions or documentation.
 
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States that private businesses might attempt to mandate still. And I do believe government may find a backdoor way through corporations. Make it seem like it wasn’t their idea.
If all the major corporations enforced it many might give in. On the other hand many others will just use small businesses and avoid corporations. I can’t see them wanting to give up their profits long term.
 

aynrus

Kingfisher
Some of these HR dummies came up with $100 gift card idea, for employees who agree to get the poison...
Others give 1-2 hours paid leave time (as incentive to go get the vaxx).
Some will be offering "paid sick leave to recover from side-effects" as vaxx "incentive" (why not paid funeral incentive?)
The stupidity has no limits.
Literally selling your soul, health and body integrity for 100 bucks Target gift card.
 
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Dilated

Robin
There's a word among US HR industry that companies will be "strongly suggesting" but not mandating the poison.

They don't want to deal with legal compliance nightmare of handling medical and religious exemptions, especially since the risk from the flu is close to none, especially for working-age persons - less trouble for corporations than from dealing with exemptions and lawsuits, such as if someone was required to get poison and gets adverse effects or dies. They expect most to be sheep and get injected, so the few that will refuse - they think won't pose enough threat to them, since the vaxxed are supposed to be "protected".
There's also confidentiality of medical information minefield, as generally employers can't ask medical condition-related questions, so if someone claims medical exemption from the poison, they're stepping into that minefield if they start asking questions or documentation.

Nice timing. Update from HR today through email that they ‘strongly suggest’ getting the vax. Those exact words. They can strongly go play in traffic.

They are setting up a clinic inside the building to give vax for free.

I think the endless !!MUTATIONS!! will play to my advantage- companies will assess full return to work as a major liability. I prefer to work remotely.
 

AntoniusofEfa

Kingfisher
Just become freelance and bill hourly. Most of the people my LTR knows that took the vaxx, could not work for at least a week.

Vaxx or no vaxx, someone still had to get the work done.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
I’m noticing two trends that seem potentially positive.

I think they have oversold both the vax and the “new strain” thing. First off I’ve noticed Normies have so much faith in the vax that they stop worrying about COVID entirely once they’ve had the shot and seem to just wear a mask because science says to for some reason. The panic feeling in them has stopped largely.

Second is they’ve overdone the “new variant” panic because there’s a story about that every 2-3 days. I only heard people talking about “variants” a bit when it first started and now people don’t seem to understand or notice these “new variants”.

Of course there’s a myriad of ways to ramp up the bad emotions again but it’s a harder sell when the media has to counterbalance this with “good feels” emotion because our wonderful and caring Messiah is in charge.
 
I would be surprised if an outright authoritarian communist technocracy could be established here. We are not conformist collectivist chinese, illiterate 1920’s Russian peasants, or rule worshiping 1940’s Germans, depleted of men by war. I don’t know all the potential variables though, perhaps modern technology could be the difference. If that is truly what the tptb want, they will have people in think-tanks with iq’s far higher than me, who believe they can make it reality. I suppose only time will tell.

I don’t think the two world wars had a significant dysgenic impact in Western Europe. We lost very few men in percentage terms, as compared to the USSR or even Germany. Two of my great-great grandfathers survived, despite personally volunteering for roles with the highest mortality rates. Our welfare state and the discouragement of intelligent women from having children has had by far worse an impact.

If communism 3.0 can be established in Britain, it can be established anywhere, even the USA. This means you probably have a decade at most before it has subdued the entire world. Moving will likely only delay the inevitable.
I think communism is already here mate.
 
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