Criticisms of Coronavirus narrative and policy

< Rather "Live scared while being afraid to die if you are above 80 or have other diseases".

Yeaha! That's the spirit.

The Brits should have just told Americans that the plague is going to get them and only the British and their advanced vaccines can save them. They should remain under the wing of Britain and they shall receive every year one of those sweet life-saving vaccines. (They were around even back then, but I guess they didn't think that the people would believe it.)
 

Roosh

Cardinal
presidentcarter said:
Just steal them. You've already got a mask and shades on.

Cough on your way out the door for a bit of extra insurance.

Do you really think anyone will stop you? Worst case they give you an IOU for 5 minutes of jail time for stealing a few bucks worth of seeds.

Hey, they were non-essential anyway, right?
We don't encourage that sort of thing here, but the point is that people who never considered stealing may take that option if pushed too far. We are headed for a fully-blown societal breakdown unless they release the vent by allowing us slaves to return to our previous life which was already wretched from a spiritual perspective.
 

presidentcarter

Ostrich
Gold Member
Roosh said:
presidentcarter said:
Just steal them. You've already got a mask and shades on.

Cough on your way out the door for a bit of extra insurance.

Do you really think anyone will stop you? Worst case they give you an IOU for 5 minutes of jail time for stealing a few bucks worth of seeds.

Hey, they were non-essential anyway, right?
We don't encourage that sort of thing here, but the point is that people who never considered stealing may take that option if pushed too far. We are headed for a fully-blown societal breakdown unless they release the vent by allowing us slaves to return to our previous life which was already wretched from a spiritual perspective.
Exactly. All tongue in cheek..

Only as an assumption that after A and B comes C.

Just in case I've added a sarcasm disclaimer for the (morally) blind.
 

Syberpunk

Pelican
Gold Member
Bury Zenek said:
Simeon_Strangelight said:
Bury Zenek said:
Simeon_Strangelight said:
I don't see any of their struggle.

The plan is going perfectly - they expected likely more resistance.

Look how the sheister is claiming that no one is immune against covid19. Anyone who had this flu for a few days or 2 weeks is immune, but what he means by this is that he wants to give you the immunity-certificate only after the vaccine.

Also this shutdown should last best 18 months.
How did the Gates model look like? Some whistleblowers showed a graph that expected a second weaker wave to hit June-July and then repeat continuously in the following months. Could this be the litmus test of the narrative?
Realistically they could at best fake a second wave in autumn/early winter and then another in spring 2021. This will continue until they get their ID card, Chinese green vs red entry system, total control and shorter life-expectancy via vaccines.

Even after that - once you protest or don't like something, then a sudden new virus will hit and it's back to your rooms!

There won't be any Yellow Vests or Hong Kong protests anymore - there will only be virus cluster bombs endangering the public.
You're one of the sharpest guys on this forum. I just hope it's only black pill. The way this virus behaves in the nearest future will indicate a lot of things. Besides if a new virus were to be released, more lethal than this one it would also mean an 18 month vaccine development time. People now know staying this long at home is not an option. I hope they will get red pilled enough to understand that the next time.
If there is even a slight chance of people being cooped up for so long, that they did go to the internet for red pilling, wouldn't pull the plug on it (which is surprisingly easy, or at least the internet as we have it right now) if there was real chance of overthrow, wouldn't they do that?
 

Kona

Crow
Gold Member
Roosh said:
presidentcarter said:
Just steal them. You've already got a mask and shades on.

Cough on your way out the door for a bit of extra insurance.

Do you really think anyone will stop you? Worst case they give you an IOU for 5 minutes of jail time for stealing a few bucks worth of seeds.

Hey, they were non-essential anyway, right?
We don't encourage that sort of thing here, but the point is that people who never considered stealing may take that option if pushed too far. We are headed for a fully-blown societal breakdown unless they release the vent by allowing us slaves to return to our previous life which was already wretched from a spiritual perspective.
I bought some of those seed display things all filled up from a store's going out of business auction like 6 months ago.

If somebody on this forum feels the need to steal seeds, don't.

Stop what you are doing, send me a message, and I'll mail you some seeds.

Aloha!
 

Mountaineer

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Syberpunk said:
If there is even a slight chance of people being cooped up for so long, that they did go to the internet for red pilling, wouldn't pull the plug on it (which is surprisingly easy, or at least the internet as we have it right now) if there was real chance of overthrow, wouldn't they do that?
To be honest my gut feeling about Poland is not optimistic. The government will do whatever the US, WHO wants it to do. As for the people, while they're being red pilled now, may be still too scared to act when the time comes.
 
Syberpunk said:
Bury Zenek said:
Simeon_Strangelight said:
Bury Zenek said:
Simeon_Strangelight said:
I don't see any of their struggle.

The plan is going perfectly - they expected likely more resistance.

Look how the sheister is claiming that no one is immune against covid19. Anyone who had this flu for a few days or 2 weeks is immune, but what he means by this is that he wants to give you the immunity-certificate only after the vaccine.

Also this shutdown should last best 18 months.
How did the Gates model look like? Some whistleblowers showed a graph that expected a second weaker wave to hit June-July and then repeat continuously in the following months. Could this be the litmus test of the narrative?
Realistically they could at best fake a second wave in autumn/early winter and then another in spring 2021. This will continue until they get their ID card, Chinese green vs red entry system, total control and shorter life-expectancy via vaccines.

Even after that - once you protest or don't like something, then a sudden new virus will hit and it's back to your rooms!

There won't be any Yellow Vests or Hong Kong protests anymore - there will only be virus cluster bombs endangering the public.
You're one of the sharpest guys on this forum. I just hope it's only black pill. The way this virus behaves in the nearest future will indicate a lot of things. Besides if a new virus were to be released, more lethal than this one it would also mean an 18 month vaccine development time. People now know staying this long at home is not an option. I hope they will get red pilled enough to understand that the next time.
If there is even a slight chance of people being cooped up for so long, that they did go to the internet for red pilling, wouldn't pull the plug on it (which is surprisingly easy, or at least the internet as we have it right now) if there was real chance of overthrow, wouldn't they do that?
If there's no internet then how would you spread the fear porn? make no mistake, they are desperately working on censoring the internet over time, but they can't quite do it full stop right this second....they might not even need to to push the agenda through.
 
Bury Zenek said:
Poland is spreading fear porn mainly through national TV.
Poles I've been talking to or in group chats with seem to think the virus is a big deal. Interesting especially given RVF has confirmed it isn't. A girl I've been talking to seems to be freaking out(no idea, since I didn't bother to video chat and I can't confirm body language over text).
 
The Catalyst said:
Bury Zenek said:
Poland is spreading fear porn mainly through national TV.
Poles I've been talking to or in group chats with seem to think the virus is a big deal. Interesting especially given RVF has confirmed it isn't. A girl I've been talking to seems to be freaking out(no idea, since I didn't bother to video chat and I can't confirm body language over text).
I found that the ones who are the most freaked out are the young who scourge the internet for viral vids and listen to fear-porn in English or the elderly who are just influenced by the TV.

The working class is more skeptical.

Though considering how masculine and already pre-selected the RVF crowd is and how divided we still are - then you cannot expect the general population to behave much better. There aren't any popoulations with IQs in the 130s where propaganda stories would have to be masterpieces or no one would believe them for long.

The Muslims in Germany for example are mistrustful because they don't trust the media in general and don't like to react in fear. But that is only true to some degree in Europe - it's not any seasoned response. Some North African countries have begun to crack down hard in quarantine and they believe them, because it's Muslim and in Arabic. In Sweden it appears that it was the Somalis who were the most panicked and ran en masse to be tested.
 
From what I can tell she only speaks English with me and otherwise consumes Polish media.

I'm not up to date with mainstream/elite/gov/media sources. I just consume RVF and other internet media. From my perspective everything was serious in January, skepticism arose and was a serious thing in March. Then recently the numbers/models came in and the panickers/doomsayers had to run and hide.

It's surreal that that's not the perspective of normies though. Makes me wonder what sort of media bs is being put out. In the case of Poland I would have totally no idea as my Polish is so weak.

Edit: Oh it seems apparently the biggest thing is trusting of Italians and how apparently the Italian medical system is so great, and the civilians were so cavalier about the virus until "it got too serious". Then everyone's repeating the NPC line about not wanting to be like Italy. Seems the Brits and other Euros are citing this.

And my family groupchat is full of mild to fullblown NPCs. I can't state my true opinion as they might think I'm a kook and I might need their help later.
 
As for Poland - father leaves his small appartment where he lives with 3 small kids in quarantine - just sits down in front of his building:


Guy seems to be arrested or will receive a large fine later. They even called in special forces in red barets for this.

That is how you slip into dictatorship. The guy didn't even realize that the cops will be going along with this or that he could face dire consequences. I understood this power-play as soon as I noted the Orwellian response.

I have friends who have rural estates with private forests and lake-access. They spend their days fishing, playing with the kids and riding their horses in their own forest. It's a casual holiday for them.

But that is the stark minority - and all for a bogus overblown disease with the worst yet to come.
 

presidentcarter

Ostrich
Gold Member
Just in case any other forum members decide they're bored enough to message me accusing me of being on "team apocalypse" and asking repeatedly to "make a bet on total deaths", let me just post my reply here for you all and save you the time.

presidentcarter said:
I'm not on "team anything." This isn't football. But since you seem to be bored out of your mind I'll attempt to entertain you a bit...

With just a little critical thinking it's easy to see that:

A) this virus isn't "just the flu" and it's fucking up a lot of people. It's doesn't take, as you put it, "being friends with a lot of old people" to realize that. That's why they're paying nurses $8k a week to work in NYC. That's also why we need to keep old people looked after right now. I know someone personally who works at a nursing home in NJ that's having a lot of deaths (residents and staff) over this and the admin/ownership is sweeping it under the rug. Although, let me guess, *forum member name* the armchair quarter back can reassure us all that it's all made up and these old people were all going to get sick and die suddenly over the last week anyway, right? Or was it the 5g phones they're all using to swipe on Elder Tinder?

B) the gov't (*and media*) response has been pretty atrocious and the damage we're doing to the economy (*and average person's psyche*) right now outpaces that of the virus itself. Mad inflation, unemployment, and overall deterioration of people's rights seem to be in play now.

Not really sure how you could argue with either of those points but in any case, man find something productive to do with your time besides obsessing over this. It's not healthy. Exercise, read a book, clean your guns, play vidyagames, message someone you haven't talked to in a while, pray, work on your car. Whatever.
 
Yeah - all addressed - for some strange reason it turns out that old people's homes are not ravaged by the virus in Germany, Ausria, Iceland, Japan, Sweden, Belarus, heck even Eastern Europe. Any place that doesn't get the sweet life-saving Wuhan protocol seems to be doing fine.

It's as if .... as if .... both the financial/social cure as well as the kneejerk-medicate-with-anything-that-is-lethal-Wuhan-cure seems to be causing more deaths than the actual virus ... hm.....

Team apocalypse yeah!
 

Enhanced Eddie

Pelican
Gold Member
presidentcarter said:
Just in case any other forum members decide they're bored enough to message me accusing me of being on "team apocalypse" and asking repeatedly to "make a bet on total deaths", let me just post my reply here for you all and save you the time.
 

Mountaineer

Kingfisher
Gold Member
The Catalyst said:
Makes me wonder what sort of media bs is being put out. In the case of Poland I would have totally no idea as my Polish is so weak.
Mainstream here is pure, 100%, grade A, cocaine fear porn. No scepticism, no logic, no idea Italy is fake news, just panic.
 

presidentcarter

Ostrich
Gold Member
Enhanced Eddie said:
presidentcarter said:
Just in case any other forum members decide they're bored enough to message me accusing me of being on "team apocalypse" and asking repeatedly to "make a bet on total deaths", let me just post my reply here for you all and save you the time.
Far from it, personally at least. I'm more productive and content than I've been in years. My house is in good order.

Good to see you're keeping those meme skills sharp. You may come to depend on them.
 
I must admit that i am becoming more and more sceptical.
Last month I was almost panicking and believed all this was real. I knew something was not right with it , but still couldn't articulate it.

Now I am positive that this is a cooperation between the forces behind the NWO and Big Pharma.

1) The economy will collapse , forcing nations to spend to "save" the economy. At some points , and with all leaders corrupt , some civil unrest will happen.
2) They push for the vaccine , and their microchip.

If plan 1 won't work , then they can try in a normal way , without virus , anyway it's going that way in West Europe/USA etc...
If plan 2 won't work , they will at least make a vaccine mandatory and then will ask for a special vaccine certificate (even if it s not a microchip) to travel. This means that in 40/50 years , they will just do it again in a way or another and go on with the microchip.

The coronavirus is just one tool among many to reach these goals.
I feel that it is going to fail , they have educated a full generation of zombies , wanting their entertainment , so it won't work.

I am worried that this could also be a test ,to see how people react , how long they can "take" these decisions , how the "resistance" will be put in place , and so on and so on.

I am at the point of exasperation where I believe that Bill Gates , and more generally our leaders , deserve a big lesson from the "population"

The only positive thing is that I have been able to somewhat protect my wife , my kids , and even my parents through the phone so I have my conscience clear.
 

Wreckingball

Pelican
More fuel for the skeptic in me:

Portuguese government does not want municipalities to release data regarding cases (infected or dead)
Portuguese parliament blocked a proposal to release data for scientifical purposes. I am not sure, but I think they backed down on this in less than 2 days after high amount of criticism
 
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