Criticisms of Coronavirus narrative and policy

Easy_C

Crow
It´s more a test in gullibility and ease of being manipulated - the elite spits on you with contempt. They don´t respect you for adhering to those rules. They think that the mask-wearing Karens who now call non-mask wearing people Karens - they think that you are total morons and sheep. Even the lowest rungs of the pyramids - the freemasons - got multiple hints in all the media that it is a hoax and all the initiated brothers and sisters have nothing to fear. It´s not even that difficult to decode because those Masonic secrets are out there, but are just disbelieved because most people are not part of those groups and the normies think that worldwide cooperation is impossible somehow.
Worth repeating:

You do not need everyone to be in on it when you control the incentives people operate under. When they have created a massive financial and branding incentive for everyone in the system to hype the Wu Flu, only a small number of people (those setting the incentives) are required to actually be in on the agenda.

For example...look at that Wells Fargo thing. Was it a massively co-ordinated, sinister conspiracy where every local branch member of this massive national bank was in on it? Nope. A few higher level managers established incentives to engage in fraud, made it necessary to do the fraud to get ahead, and everyone else got in line with those incentives.
 

Papaya

Crow
Gold Member
Does anyone put the published numbers in context?

Florida for example

Florida population 21.48 million

Florida "confirmed" cases 133K

133,000 /21,48,0000 = 0.00061


Florida "confirmed" deaths 3,389


3389 / 21,480,00 = 0.00015


So 4 mos in and its literally caused less than 1 in 10000 deaths in the state that has "opened the most aggressively" and has one of if not the highest population of vulnerable demographic (elderly)


How is this even still a thing ?
 

LeoniusD

Woodpecker
< asymptomatic - of course - those grave asymptomatic diseases that are crippling the planet.

You realize that asymptomatic disease is a new normal definition? A disease must have symptoms - specific ones. The Koch postulates even say that if someone has a supposed pathogen, but no symptoms, then the pathogen cannot be causing the disease and you have to look elsewhere for a cause of the disease. So what about a disease that has asymptomatic cases of 80 to 100%? 100% among slaughterhouse and farm workers who were diagniosed.... I personally know some.

This is so much bullshit. "But the case count is rising - be very afraid !!!!!!"

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rpg

Ostrich
In this town they are fudging and fluffing numbers hard. If someone dies of cancer, it was corona. If someone dies of a heart attack it was corona. Now, they went full blitz to test anyone for free that wanted a test. People who were not even sick went to go get tested for social media cred. They were able to boost positive cases but of course have no idea which corona out of 5,000+ strains. Most are asymptomatic. They are also stating way over 1K cases when the real number is around 400. Over 500 are now well. This is epic media and gov hyped bullshit.
 

budoslavic

Peacock
Gold Member
BLM protests have not led to a spike in coronavirus cases: study

Black Lives Matter protests haven’t seen coronavirus cases surge in cities since the massive demonstrations began, a study says.

The new research, which was published by the National Bureau of Economic Research, found no evidence that coronavirus cases jumped in 315 cities in the weeks following the first protests.

Researchers determined that protests may have been offset by an increase in social distancing among those who decided not to march.

Using cellphone data, the study determined that more people opted to stay home “perhaps due to fear of violence from police clashes or general unrest.”

“While it is almost certain that the protests caused a decrease in social distancing behavior among protest attendees, we demonstrate that effect of the protests on the social distancing behavior of the entire population residing in counties with large urban protests was positive,” the report reads.

Researchers said they observed no jump in cases in the more than three weeks after the first protests, possibly due to a “net effect.”

“While it is possible that the protests caused an increase in the spread of COVID-19 among those who attended the protests, we demonstrate that the protests had little effect on the spread of COVID-19 for the entire population of the counties with protests during the more than three weeks following protest onset,” researchers said.

 

LeoniusD

Woodpecker

Coronavirus found in Barcelona waste water sample from March 2019
Experts said the finding was probably either a contaminated sample or a separate coronavirus outbreak, although more research was needed

Nevermind that they might have found the same sample in 2018 - it´s even possible that it´s nothing new, but what is new is how creatively they kill people when testing positive and finding themselves under the power of misguided health practitioners.
 

Papaya

Crow
Gold Member
Published numbers in context:

California for example

California population 39.51 million

California "confirmed" cases 217000

217000 /39,510,000 = 0.005492


California "confirmed" deaths 5,937


5,937 / 39,510,000 = 0.00015


Or 1 death per 6654 people (if official numbers are accurate)

I think the odds of getting hit by lightning in your life time are 1 in 3000...

I know theyre completely different controls but it should provide some perspective
 
Published numbers in context:

California for example

California population 39.51 million

California "confirmed" cases 217000

217000 /39,510,000 = 0.005492


California "confirmed" deaths 5,937


5,937 / 39,510,000 = 0.00015


Or 1 death per 6654 people (if official numbers are accurate)

I think the odds of getting hit by lightning in your life time are 1 in 3000...

I know theyre completely different controls but it should provide some perspective
That is pretty stupid math.

The logic behind it is even more retarded.

Do the math for the case fatality rate. 6k/217k

- Past case counts are not predictive of future case counts.

- Also, you need to give about 2 weeks time tor active cases to die or recover, or you need to subtract active cases from the numerator.

Lastly, some people are disabled for life from the disease.

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I am not sure how this became a political issue either. People should wear masks, but they shouldn’t be compelled to do so. Same goes for quarantine. PPE is effective. I worked for years with all sorts of nasty agents and I can tell you that PPE is effective.
 
Like I said, I have handled hundreds of thousands of deadlier agents over my life. PPE works. No need to hide with your mother and her poodle.

3 percent might be an accurate case fatality rate. It is likely an under estimates.

Since you are obviously the enlightened one, please explain to me what you know about the people that live and have permanent disabilities due to COVID.

Just remember, this is all in God’s plan.
 
The sooner us fellow conservatives and libertarians start to use science and facts as a weapon against the libtards, the sooner we will have greater power on these issues. Liberals have hijacked the narrative on COVID, the have also hijacked academia’s narratives, and most federal and state public health agencies. COVID and how we respond to it can align with conservative ideologies. Many people in this forum bash these people, instead we should be spending our time trying to figure out how we can get more people who are like minded into influential positions in public health, medicine/academia, and technology. Obviously, this is all easier said than done. But, we are not going to be victorious in the culture war if we keep bullshitting ourselves on the covid battlefield. If DoD has banned travel to a US state, then rest assured its not some bullshit covid conspiracy.
 

andy dufresne

Woodpecker
The sooner us fellow conservatives and libertarians start to use science and facts as a weapon against the libtards, the sooner we will have greater power on these issues. Liberals have hijacked the narrative on COVID, the have also hijacked academia’s narratives, and most federal and state public health agencies. COVID and how we respond to it can align with conservative ideologies. Many people in this forum bash these people, instead we should be spending our time trying to figure out how we can get more people who are like minded into influential positions in public health, medicine/academia, and technology. Obviously, this is all easier said than done. But, we are not going to be victorious in the culture war if we keep bullshitting ourselves on the covid battlefield. If DoD has banned travel to a US state, then rest assured its not some bullshit covid conspiracy.
Newbie....you're playing to the wrong crowd here. Do you really follow Roosh?

It's just a flu amplified by intentional media hype to do what that little turd Thunberg couldn't do....kill the economy.

Go to the other CV thread if you want to post your 'info'.
 

ball dont lie

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Remember when covid was on everything and would stay there for up to a week, infecting everyone?

When asymptomatic carriers were the silent super spreaders?

I believe that the "lifelong / permanent disabilities" fear porn is the same thing. That is much harder to disprove. It could be that most of those people were intubated and it ruined their lungs with the high pressure. Or a hundred other good explanations.

The problem is that rational people are trying to "figure out" the situation using logic. This is basically a hoax plus intense scare mongering plus government fear porn.

Example: If the disease that spreads easily between anyone within 6 feet, that stays on surfaces for a week and has untold numbers of asymptomatic super spreader carriers are running around, why isnt everyone sick, like in every really bad flu season I have experienced. I hadnt seen anyone with a cold in weeks.

At the same time this disease had been spreading around the world since December? There should have been millions of dead people.

I couldnt figure it out. I was terrified trying to make sense of the situation.

Then I understood it was a huge load of BS being forced down everyones throat. Trying to figure out BS is impossible. Its using the wrong system to understand the situation. If you are told a hundred lies, using that information will never make sense.

You get let down bringing reason to a gun fight.
 

budoslavic

Peacock
Gold Member
The sooner us fellow conservatives and libertarians start to use science and facts as a weapon against the libtards, the sooner we will have greater power on these issues. Liberals have hijacked the narrative on COVID, the have also hijacked academia’s narratives, and most federal and state public health agencies. COVID and how we respond to it can align with conservative ideologies. Many people in this forum bash these people, instead we should be spending our time trying to figure out how we can get more people who are like minded into influential positions in public health, medicine/academia, and technology. Obviously, this is all easier said than done. But, we are not going to be victorious in the culture war if we keep bullshitting ourselves on the covid battlefield. If DoD has banned travel to a US state, then rest assured its not some bullshit covid conspiracy.
Bash who? Like Bill Gates? Dr. Fauci? World Health Organization? UN?
 
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