Criticisms of Coronavirus narrative and policy

Easy_C

Peacock
Maybe so, but the point remains that if he wanted to grift he’s going about it wrong.

Had he gone woke the odds are very good he’d be living in a large loft apartment somewhere swanky while enjoying regular appearances on the cable news show circuit. I say that in all seriousness because while I do have a mixed opinion of him personally (far more positive than before; he’s matured immensely) the media’s previous attempts to set him up as a heel Is an indication that they do see some level of broadcast-worthiness of him and were he not going the route he is they would have kept that ball rolling.

TLDR: If he was gonna grift, he (or anyone else) stands to some exponentially more cash by shilling woke ideology.
 

presidentcarter

Ostrich
Gold Member
Roosh V oversells himself and his 'books,'
and this entire Roosh Creation is just like Big Gay Al on South Park, but not nearly as genuine and cool as Big Gay Al.

The religiosity angle serves Roosh up a guaranteed and predictable demographic, appealing to the always naive western 'christian,' who never possesses the Mind of Christ, just the mind of Beth Moore and Benny Hinn, meets disposable income and a stupid wife.

You milktoast people know nothing, and this will be guaranteed by the 'HEAVY' moderation of your loving Pastor Roosh V.
-- The Secret Shakespeare

“I will not serve that in which I no longer believe, whether it calls itself my home, my fatherland, or my church: and I will try to express myself in some mode of life or art as freely as I can and as wholly as I can, using for my defense the only arms I allow myself to use -- silence, exile, and cunning.” -- James Joyce

 

eradicator

Peacock
Gold Member
Roosh V oversells himself and his 'books,'
and this entire Roosh Creation is just like Big Gay Al on South Park, but not nearly as genuine and cool as Big Gay Al.

The religiosity angle serves Roosh up a guaranteed and predictable demographic, appealing to the always naive western 'christian,' who never possesses the Mind of Christ, just the mind of Beth Moore and Benny Hinn, meets disposable income and a stupid wife.

You milktoast people know nothing, and this will be guaranteed by the 'HEAVY' moderation of your loving Pastor Roosh V.
-- The Secret Shakespeare

“I will not serve that in which I no longer believe, whether it calls itself my home, my fatherland, or my church: and I will try to express myself in some mode of life or art as freely as I can and as wholly as I can, using for my defense the only arms I allow myself to use -- silence, exile, and cunning.” -- James Joyce

 
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But forum members and the media keep telling me Florida's open for business!

(It's not)
 

Zagor

Woodpecker
I would like to point out a profound paradigm shift that has happened during this pandemic and that is that everybody is now deemed sick until proven otherwise (by a test or a vaccine). We can draw an analogy with jurisdiction where everybody is deemed innocent until proven otherwise. Image now if we changed the paradigm and deemed everybody guilty until proven otherwise. So lock everybody up until they can prove their innocence, as inspector Grim form the old british sitcom The thin blue line suggested. What a ridiculous suggestion, right? But this is exactly what we have done: we've locked everybody up until they can prove they're healthy.
 

Grow Bag

Kingfisher
I would like to point out a profound paradigm shift that has happened during this pandemic and that is that everybody is now deemed sick until proven otherwise (by a test or a vaccine). We can draw an analogy with jurisdiction where everybody is deemed innocent until proven otherwise. Image now if we changed the paradigm and deemed everybody guilty until proven otherwise. So lock everybody up until they can prove their innocence, as inspector Grim form the old british sitcom The thin blue line suggested. What a ridiculous suggestion, right? But this is exactly what we have done: we've locked everybody up until they can prove they're healthy.
Good observation, I've noticed this too. So much in the West today is an inversion of how it was 50 years ago, say. Since 9/11, for instance, we're ALL treated as potential terrorists, even white children and grannies in wheelchairs have to take shoes off and molested with TSA pat downs, etc. It's crazy making. Frankly we failed back then. Most people simply fell in line and tolerated what ought to have been intolerable, as they're doing now. I once had a melt down after being coerced into a scanning booth, for fear of missing my flight, because I had some metal on my person. I've not flown since then and likely never will. 9/11 and the war on terror (the war on us) emboldened them to be confident they could pull this off, in my opinion.
 

MtnMan

Woodpecker
Good observation, I've noticed this too. So much in the West today is an inversion of how it was 50 years ago, say. Since 9/11, for instance, we're ALL treated as potential terrorists, even white children and grannies in wheelchairs have to take shoes off and molested with TSA pat downs, etc. It's crazy making. Frankly we failed back then. Most people simply fell in line and tolerated what ought to have been intolerable, as they're doing now. I once had a melt down after being coerced into a scanning booth, for fear of missing my flight, because I had some metal on my person. I've not flown since then and likely never will. 9/11 and the war on terror (the war on us) emboldened them to be confident they could pull this off, in my opinion.
I completely agree with you about the war on terror and 9/11. When I first discovered that 9/11 was not a simple matter of 19 hijackers and box cutters, I was very freaked out because I knew that the level of degradation and acceptance among the populous was very dangerous. I went a few years where my concern about it faded. Now I see that my initial reaction around 2008 was completely justified.
 

Johnnyvee

Pelican

"...For the past year, an assumption — sometimes explicit, often tacit — has informed almost all our thinking about the pandemic: At some point, it will be over, and then we’ll go “back to normal.” This premise is almost certainly wrong. SARS-CoV-2, protean and elusive as it is, may become our permanent enemy, like the flu but worse. And even if it peters out eventually, our lives and routines will by then have changed irreversibly. Going “back” won’t be an option; the only way is forward. But to what exactly?..."

Very sinister indeed! There is only one way forward, and that is to battle this new zeitgeist/dynamic with all that we have. This is simply a war against humanity and pure evil. There is no compromises to be made with these people, and they will never ever stop until they are stopped. I don`t know exactly how we can achieve this, but we must fight it at least! I feel most sorry for really young people, as they will probably never experience most things that are taken for granted in youth. You could argue that this is a war directed against them specifically also.
 

godfather dust

Hummingbird
Gold Member
I wouldn't be surprised if YouTube sort of "leaks" out some kind of unrealistic way to estimate how much you can make on the channel, in order to attract people to it.
This is clearly a tactic being employed currently, made obvious by onlyfans.

How many advertisements have we seen disguised as news reports about middle aged women or plain janes making $100,000 a month on onlyfans?

These stories are fake and a tactic to get average looking women into porn with unrealistic expectations.
 

Elipe

Kingfisher
I feel most sorry for really young people, as they will probably never experience most things that are taken for granted in youth. You could argue that this is a war directed against them specifically also.
I feel sorry for them because so many of them will also go on to support the very same system that is stealing their youth and futures from them because that's what they've been brainwashed into doing. It's like the young leftists who whine about high rent and unfair employer practices, but then they turn around and support the very systems that drives rent up (e.g. de-gentrification, university education, and leftist policies that drive up the cost of owning property, driving up demand for rental homes instead). Or, it's like all the leftists that whine about Amazon's treatment of warehouse workers, but then turn around and continue to buy from Amazon. Immigration too, the young are very pro-immigration, but have no understanding of the long-term impact that has on them.

Young people, but especially leftists, just have a habit of shooting themselves in the foot.
 

CaptainS

Hummingbird
Just checking in after an absence. I didn't see this on the thread yet, sorry if it's a repost.

On March 6th or 8th, the CDC (after a 9 month study) found masks and closing schools, bars, and restaurants DID help stop the spread of Covid...by as much as .5 to 1.9% In most cases it was around 1%. In other words, it did virtually nothing.

Originally, I heard it reported on my local news, then easily found hundreds of articles backing it up - most of those have been scrubbed.
 

Wreckingball

Pelican
Just checking in after an absence. I didn't see this on the thread yet, sorry if it's a repost.

On March 6th or 8th, the CDC (after a 9 month study) found masks and closing schools, bars, and restaurants DID help stop the spread of Covid...by as much as .5 to 1.9% In most cases it was around 1%. In other words, it did virtually nothing.

Originally, I heard it reported on my local news, then easily found hundreds of articles backing it up - most of those have been scrubbed.
Do you have a link for that?
 

MRAll134

Kingfisher
Lol, after millions of vaccinations and months to prepare - this 3rd wave will be the worst! OMG!!

'Figures rising too fast': German officials warn third Covid-19 wave could be worst one yet
There are "clear signs" that the new wave of coronavirus infections could hit Germany even harder than before, senior health officials have said. The announcement was made amid sharp increase in new cases in the country.

"At the moment, the figures are rising too fast and the variants are making the situation especially dangerous," Germany's Minister of Health Jens Spahn said at a press conference on Friday. The situation is now so serious that the country faces the risk of its health system reaching "breaking point" in April.

Nearly 21,600 new cases, which is around 4,000 more than recorded a week ago, were reported by Germany's Robert Koch Institute (RKI) for infectious diseases on Friday. The seven-day incidence rate rose to 119 new cases per 100,000 people, and the reported death toll rose to over 75,600 in total. If the spread is not curbed, "it could be 100,000 [new cases] per day," head of the RKI Lothar Wieler told the media at the conference.

It "could be even worse than the first two waves," Wieler added. The current increase might also be "harder to curb," as the new Covid-19 variants are more virulent and contagious...

...in order not to make the spread even worse, the senior officials called for reducing social contacts during the upcoming Easter days. If the situation progresses as feared, Germany's hospitals could become overloaded in the next few weeks.

Source:
https://www.rt.com/news/519275-germany-coronavirus-worst-wave/

*I am reminded of the story about Chicken Little and thinking the sky is falling, one too many times.
 

AntoniusofEfa

Kingfisher
Lol, after millions of vaccinations and months to prepare - this 3rd wave will be the worst! OMG!!

'Figures rising too fast': German officials warn third Covid-19 wave could be worst one yet
There are "clear signs" that the new wave of coronavirus infections could hit Germany even harder than before, senior health officials have said. The announcement was made amid sharp increase in new cases in the country.

"At the moment, the figures are rising too fast and the variants are making the situation especially dangerous," Germany's Minister of Health Jens Spahn said at a press conference on Friday. The situation is now so serious that the country faces the risk of its health system reaching "breaking point" in April.

Nearly 21,600 new cases, which is around 4,000 more than recorded a week ago, were reported by Germany's Robert Koch Institute (RKI) for infectious diseases on Friday. The seven-day incidence rate rose to 119 new cases per 100,000 people, and the reported death toll rose to over 75,600 in total. If the spread is not curbed, "it could be 100,000 [new cases] per day," head of the RKI Lothar Wieler told the media at the conference.

It "could be even worse than the first two waves," Wieler added. The current increase might also be "harder to curb," as the new Covid-19 variants are more virulent and contagious...

...in order not to make the spread even worse, the senior officials called for reducing social contacts during the upcoming Easter days. If the situation progresses as feared, Germany's hospitals could become overloaded in the next few weeks.

Source:
https://www.rt.com/news/519275-germany-coronavirus-worst-wave/

*I am reminded of the story about Chicken Little and thinking the sky is falling, one too many times.
The ERs in Germany have less to do this year compared to last years. Any honest emergency Physician will tell you that the 2017/2018 wave was much worse.
 
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