Criticisms of Coronavirus narrative and policy

Rush87

Ostrich
RE: Criticisms of Coronavirus narrative [previously: Skeptics of Coronovirus]

Roosh said:
I'm too disturbed to sleep.

This is starting to look like a worldwide revolution masquerading as a "pandemic".
It's been playing on my mind now for close to a month. This is the first time in my lifetime, that I've had genuine angst for what's to come. All signs point to some very dark times ahead. The government has told billions to 'go to your room, and stay there until we say so' and we've all done it without a peep.

Unless the world wakes up soon, we're powerless. As it stands, they have our neighbors acting as enforcers of the narrative. When your fellow man's essentially part of an extended police force, it's a scary position to be in.​
 

Oak

Robin
RE: Criticisms of Coronavirus narrative [previously: Skeptics of Coronovirus]

Out of the 1046 classified deaths as to underlying causes in NY thus far 1.72% did not have one or more of Diabetes, Lung Disease, Cancer, Immunodeficiency, Heart Disease, Hypertension, Asthma, Kidney Disease and GI/Liver Disease.

[img=460x600]https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?get_gallerynr=7886[/img]

It looks like morbid obesity is not included as an underlying condition in itself. So the number with underlying poor health is probably even higher.

PabloAthens said:
Organization of russian medical doctors just sent an open letter to president Putin.
In the letter they described it ALL, everything. Electronic police state which is about to unleash worldwide, sophisticated spray-like weapons which are connected with 5G, all the dirty tricks with current reporting, statistics, etc. They seem to be really worried, despite that Russia is somewhat dettached from globalists.
Link?
 

kosko

Peacock
Gold Member
RE: Criticisms of Coronavirus narrative [previously: Skeptics of Coronovirus]

AntoniusofEfa said:
Roosh said:
I'm too disturbed to sleep.

This is starting to look like a worldwide revolution masquerading as a "pandemic".
There is no revolution.

The globalists plan was going ahead very well, up until the coronavirus hit. Now, families are spending time together. Women are now sticking to their boyfriends/husbands, since many of these waitress and salesperson jobs are gone. Less money is spent on stupid luxuries, and the production of all kinds of toxic films and TV shows have been canceled. Look up the advantages of the coronavirus thread.

If anything, there will be a revolution of people being tired of their incompetent government. The US will be fine, having so many armed citizens. Those we are prepared, and have a skill that is in demand, are going to live well. Those we did not, well, that is their fault.

Having a personal trainer is not a necessity. Having a network engineer to run the network is.

In a few days Japan will go into lockdown, that was prevented up until now to save face. This whole thing is just not planned.
BF/Husbands are useless to women if they don't have money or resources. Women are sticking around now but with Government money and an onlyfans account she won't need anyone to survive. Many women will just go live with parents or turn into E-thots.
 

Roosh

Cardinal
RE: Criticisms of Coronavirus narrative [previously: Skeptics of Coronovirus]

Rush87 said:
Roosh said:
I'm too disturbed to sleep.

This is starting to look like a worldwide revolution masquerading as a "pandemic".
It's been playing on my mind now for close to a month. This is the first time in my lifetime, that I've had genuine angst for what's to come. All signs point to some very dark times ahead. The government has told billions to 'go to your room, and stay there until we say so' and we've all done it without a peep.

Unless the world wakes up soon, we're powerless. As it stands, they have our neighbors acting as enforcers of the narrative. When your fellow man's essentially part of an extended police force, it's a scary position to be in.​
Do you have God in your life? Now is the time. Don't fear.

Things will get very uncomfortable for our material bodies, but God won't forsake us. Whatever happens, stay with Christ, don't sin.
 

ilostabet

Pelican
RE: Criticisms of Coronavirus narrative [previously: Skeptics of Coronovirus]

Roosh, remember what you said in your wrap up of Babylon Road: both Good and Evil will increase - it's the middle that will disappear. Your prediction still stands, in my opinion.

There is no doubt that life will get tougher and tougher, that persecution of Christians will probably occur, regardless of this being a planned event or not. In fact, that is almost beside the point. Whether it's planned or not, the oligarchs will use it. They will oppress us more, they will take away more and more rights, and they will make us suffer.

But exactly in it, lies the opportunity for people to turn to God, to face life, finally, through the eyes of Heaven. It is precisely because all our worldly comforts are about to be taken away, that a huge veil of deception and spiritual disease will be lifted from a lot of people. Like Christians in many eras before us, we must face the persecution and the suffering with faith and joy.

We in the West have been under a deep sleep of ease, of comfort, of distraction. We are in for a true awakening that only dark times can muster. The pain will focus our hearts in what truly matters. Remember it's the hard times that create strong men. Those hard times are upon us, and there will be men capable of the strength necessary for them, whose faith in the false idols we have built will die, and only faith in Christ will remain.
 

Syberpunk

Pelican
Gold Member
RE: Criticisms of Coronavirus narrative [previously: Skeptics of Coronovirus]

Tactician said:
McKinnsley said:

For 28 deaths. You are gonna be out on your arse next election when people realize the scam you are pulling.
:fuckthat2:

October is batshit bonkers insane & even walking it back to June is pretty crazy. I don't even live in Australia & I'm pissed.

Blah. Wanted to write a big rant post, but I'll just say I hope govts don't drag this out & I hope people aren't addicted to UBI or other gay stuff when this is over.

Stay safe & if you're indoors a lot, make sure to get your Vitamin D. It's important for testosterone.
Wasn't UBI tested in Finland or somewhere on a small scale and it was a disaster, so they quitely ended it? I remember this from a Molyenux video I believe.
 

bucky

Pelican
RE: Criticisms of Coronavirus narrative [previously: Skeptics of Coronovirus]

Simeon_Strangelight said:

Unemployment claims USA - unprecedented - even the Great Depression was never that deep and quick!

Peopole are absolutely insane!

They are fining folk 200$ for leaving the house without reason in Germany, fining them 700$ for visting their dying grandmother or even coming close to a senior care facility.

Anyone who is cheering for it all should re-examine the reality of life and what he is doing!
So, basically all women. At least as far as I can tell, judging from social media.
 

Mountaineer

Kingfisher
Gold Member
RE: Criticisms of Coronavirus narrative [previously: Skeptics of Coronovirus]

Roosh said:
Do you have God in your life? Now is the time. Don't fear.

Things will get very uncomfortable for our material bodies, but God won't forsake us. Whatever happens, stay with Christ, don't sin.
If I can recommend something that can help with this is this film about incarceration of the Polish Primate Stefan Wyszyński during communist reign, how they tried to break his faith and how he persevered.

It will be hard to find english subtitles but I'll try.

 

AnonymousBosch

Crow
Gold Member
RE: Criticisms of Coronavirus narrative [previously: Skeptics of Coronovirus]

AntoniusofEfa said:
The globalists plan was going ahead very well, up until the coronavirus hit.
Everyone stay calm. My message is hopeful.

I discussed a thread, leaked on 4 Chan last year, which said the Globalists plan was a worldwide crash of the Economy in 2022, with it potentially-being moved forward using the cover of a Biological Weapon if it seemed unlikely for the Trump / Kushner / Bibi axis to hang onto power. Reform Judiasm (Democrats) and Chabbad Judaism (Trump and co) might hate each other, but they both believe in open borders, the free movement of people, advancing minorities such as sodomy in Botswana and lowest black unemployment ever!, all 'repairing the world' based on Jewish Principles.

So, you either have the theory that Trump was chosen by God and is draining the swamp, despite no evidence of this and nothing ever panning out - no arrests, no wall, no reigning in of Antifa, Silicon Valley, the Media or the Left - or there's this theory I've sensed since early 2017 that Trump always was Evil, and everything discussed in that thread last January in that has played out exactly as described: Mueller found nothing, Epstein was dangerous to the Right and Left, and Julian Assange wouldn't be protected, amongst others.

I was reading the Chabbad website the other night, and it's more than clear that they're the New World Order. The Democrats want Socialist Tyranny, Chabbad want a one world religion with everyone worshipping what they call 'The Source', which I imagine is similar to the Freemason's 'Grand Architect of the Universe', ie. Satan.

They have 7 Noahide Laws they believe everyone should follow, which predate the 10 commandments, and are based on the Talmud. They want to set up the courts to enforce this. George Bush already signed these laws into principle in 1991 as being the 'founding commandments' of the US, and every US president from Carter Onwards has sucked up to the man Chabbad believes was the Jewish Messiah.

Of course, Chabbad, being Legalists, then turn these 7 laws into what a Rabbi describes as 300+ Laws that must be obeyed, at risk of death.

What I found interesting was that one of their teachings seems to be about protecting the earth from Overconsumption. Having been thinking about Legalist versus Loving understanding of God, I could easily see how this plays out.

You're not supposed to use more than your fair share of resources.

So, Chabbad crashes the Economy, Chabbad seizes the Fed from the Rothschilds, the Fed buys up bonds and stocks in companies - currently happening - and everything is then required to be backed by Gold and Silver.

You see, the Chabbad Rabbis discuss that part of the world being broken is due to everyone desiring excessive wealth and comfort and this creates an unfair social stratification, so I can see from a warped Legalistic Mindset that it would make sense to completely take living on credit out of the picture, destroy the worldwide economy, and bring all the goyim down to equality in poverty, which I doubt will apply to the Chosen because they will seek the legalistic loophole for why it doesn't apply to them. Income would be mandated by UBI, and even consumption at the shops would be limited in what you are allowed to purchase, and how much, which we're living through now.

Does it make more sense now? UBI was pushed worldwide in all governments by both the left and the right.

Of course, some people are going to want to revolt against this plan, and believe their guns will save them. Which is why the last four years have been spent collecting data from various online honeypots for 'Patriots' to train the AI to identify them by telling everyone to share 'trust the plan' on social media, the cream of this obviously being the Q Psyop which the insider said was Kushner's baby. Wonder why certain channels were allowed to persist despite being anti-narrative and took a long time to become banned? Wonder why you'd get certain videos recommended to you again and again despite your lack of interest. This was known as Project Zyphr, to Tag, Track and Identify those capable of resisting, and a man called David Goldberg leaked this information last September, also mentioning a Biological Weapon as a backup cover plan. As such, the current Lockdowns would be about separating and rounding up troublemakers, particularly since the Q-Tards have been trained to expect 'power outages' and '10 days of darkness' as signs that the bad guys are going to be rounded up, when it's always been them with the targets on their backs. "These people are stupid indeed."

Your guns won't save you, because their technology is far beyond that. Besides, if you stand against Israel and Chabbad Trump has already made his viewpoint clear:

The scourge of antisemitism cannot be ignored, cannot be tolerated, and it cannot be allowed to continue. We cannot allow it to continue. It must be confronted and condemned everywhere it rears its very ugly head. We must stand with our jewish brothers and sisters to defeat antisemitism and vanquish the forces of hate. That’s what it is.

And those seeking their [the Jews’] destruction, we will seek their destruction. Now when you have crimes like this, whether it’s this one or another one, or another group, we have to bring back the death penalty. They have to pay the ultimate price. They have to pay the ultimate price.
Would a man whom I was saying back in February 2017 clearly didn't believe in Christ do such a thing as to consider the Bible and Jesus' teachings anti-semitism? I mean, if Chabbad can twist one of their 7 laws - do no commit abortion - and find the legal loophole so that abortion is legal in Israel - I imagine it's about 'protecting the planet' again, I'm sure the law against Idolatry would include Jesus. Chabbad already has very strange justifications for particular types of incest and a huge sexual abuse problem in their communities that even made the mainstream media.

Of course, I can't prove any of this. We'll just have to see what plays out as we head into Passover, though I would find it ghoulishly-hilarious if Evangelical's inability to listen to Jesus' warnings about Jewish Power means they get rounded up by the Zionists they worship and have their heads chopped off as described in Revelations whilst waiting for that non-biblical Rapture they all seem to believe in.

Still, Satan's Century is up, so I'm not worried. If anything, I'm glad the endless stale peace of the last decade is finally ending and evil is coming out into the open. The Church Mystics are all full of activity, and, if this move by Chabbad is the sign of the end, the Western Nations have been prophecized since Fatima in 1917 to be destroyed by Russia - a message reinforced by the Akita visions in 1973. Russia is said it will possess weapons far, far beyond the technology and imagination of the Western Countries. If you've been paying attention to non-US news sources in the last few years, America has been getting its arse kicked, which probably explains why it turned to Biological Attacks. Russia has been bragging about its advanced weaponry openly for a few years now - I've been warning about this for a while on here as a potential sign - and I suspect they shared it with Iran, who scared the US ouf of attacking them earlier this year.

If America has shown it will ignore international law to kill a foreign general, and release a bioweapon to destroy a geopolitical enemy, and then is currently being stressed by an attempted shift into a NWO economy, why wouldn't any sane nation see it in a collapsing state, and attack?

But, once again, who knows? I've been researching both the sign in the sky and the worldwide raising of consciousness, and they're said to happen no more than a year apart. The latter Pentecost is supposed to be able to be dated by certain feast dates aligning, and is said to be May 2021, though I can't vouch for the researcher's accuracy, as I'm not one who pays much attention to Catholic End Time Prophecy. The Sign is supposed to happen on a Friday.

Ages back on here I wrote about the 'message for the year' I seemed to be receiving from God, usually I could recognise the theme for the year by March, and wrote the 2015-2018 messages, and probably sounded crazy. I can now continue with the 2019-2020 ones.

2015: Evil is real.
2016: Choose your side.
2017: The battle isn't for the World, but for your Soul.
2018: Put on the armour of God.
2019: God's Mercy far outweighs his Justice.
2020: Do not be afraid.

Note that God's action is simple. The Saints record he doesn't send long, complicated messages or any more information than is needed. I described in the past the complex simplicity of the Carmelite Nuns: they'd say very little, but what they did say contained worlds of meaning.

So, really, all that is happening is some kind of spiritual transition into what I imagine will be open spiritual warfare. Which means: all you have to do is cling to the Cross, don't give in to fear, and trust in God through the rough times ahead, because it's not going to go to the plan that Satan's children expect.

Stop being afraid.
 

Enigma

Hummingbird
Gold Member
RE: Criticisms of Coronavirus narrative [previously: Skeptics of Coronovirus]

People are still in denial about China.

The elites did not spend decades building China into a superpower, at the direct expense of the West, and then pull the rug out from under the West when China was in position because they are threatened by China.

This is such a dumb narrative, which is why it's so important to stop pretending that the elites are stupid.

This is the plan.

People point to these surface level, superficial conflicts between the US and China as some kind of proof that China is "anti-globalist", while completely forgetting that the US fought multiple proxy wars with Mao's China just a few decades ago.

Mao was funded by the bankers and trained by the CIA. This is not a "conspiracy", it's a verifiable fact. Even the so-called "bad" parts of Mao's regime, like the Cultural Revolution or famine, were openly praised by people like David Rockefeller, in the New York Times of all places.

This is what the elites do. They destroy states, they rebuild them, they use them against each other, and then they destroy them again.

Look at how they built up Soviet industry, and then unsympathetically gutted the Soviets just a couple generations later.

Now that the US has outlived its usefulness, China will become the new arm for enforcing the globalist agenda, which is one world technocratic government, and Americans will be left to pick up the pieces of their utterly destroyed culture and civilization, just as the Russians have been trying to do since the fall of the Soviet Union.

By the way, this has been going on in the US since at least the Civil War. The methods used to destroy the South bare striking similarities to the tactics used in both Russia and China. That's because it's the same model.
 
RE: Criticisms of Coronavirus narrative [previously: Skeptics of Coronovirus]

< It's helpful to remain grounded that our true selves are immortal. The truth is that for most of human history oppression was the norm - most people were highly restricted as serfs, slaves, even normal citizens.

The freedoms humanity had for a short time are a thorn in the eyes of those who in the past would have abused and created slaves and serfs. This is no new struggle. This is just the modern method of sacrificing virings/ripping out hearsts on the altars of the fake high priests of "science".

Many countries in the world still give you a lot of freedom and opportunity since the globalists don't control it all as of yet. And even now it won't be too easy to ride that home so quickly. It may be just the first stage of this destruction.

Ultimately I agree with Roosh that it's better to take a spiritual/religious view. Our mortal bodies are just that. We do the best to preserve them, take care of our loved ones, but there are things we have no control of. If everyone is marching like lemmings into a pit and shooting everyone like us who resist, then what you gonna do?

But it's not over yet. Spiritually it does not even have to affect you. They can never take away your faith/spiritual awareness from you even if they want to foster fear and panic while they laugh in their palatial estates.

And I don't think that it's anything major like culling of 6 bio. soon. Things will be tougher for sure, money will be more difficult to be earned. You would have to plan ahead more, be smart, maybe move if possible as not all countries will go down as much as others. There will still be options.
 
RE: Criticisms of Coronavirus narrative [previously: Skeptics of Coronovirus]

< ABosch - somehow I miss the hopeful tone there.

An interesting look at the Italian numbers as they back up the simple perception that it's just re-evaluation of normal deaths into covid and some people dying due to the insane SARS treatment protocol.

Hospital beds of Italy: 192000
Current hospitalizations 32000 supposedly covid - barely rising or being flat for some time already
ICU capacity in all of Italy: 7500
Currently used by Italy: 4000 - probably due to their infatuation with ventilators now that have the side-effect of collapsing your lungs - they skip the normal less invasive oxygen-step due to supposed information from China, that this is not enough - just follow that without any checkup in Italy and NYC

That said - this also doesn't rise much.

But deaths are now stable at 700-800 which is on par with re-evaluations of normal deaths plus a few they manage to kill with the protocol. Hospitalizations don't rise, because there is no need - it has more or less natural limits.

If the virus thesis was true, then you would have to get 2000/3000/5000 daily deaths - that would mean that you reach well beyond the normal 1500-2200 daily Italian mortality rate (depending on season).

https://datastudio.google.com/u/0/reporting/91350339-2c97-49b5-92b8-965996530f00/page/RdlHB
 

AnonymousBosch

Crow
Gold Member
RE: Criticisms of Coronavirus narrative [previously: Skeptics of Coronovirus]

Roosh said:
Things will get very uncomfortable for our material bodies, but God won't forsake us. Whatever happens, stay with Christ, don't sin.
I'm not saying to will sin, but I'm saying to hope that even in sin, it is never too late. This is from the Saints and Doctors of the Church. What the Catholic Church teaches us is your state is fixed at death, but that's the Church's Law for Man, and that God makes the final call. If he chooses to dispense with that in certain cases, that is His Right under Justice, and he has shared with mystics that, even after death, you can still choose Him, but many are lost because they see their true state after death and reject his mercy due to their own shame. They cast themselves into Hell, not understanding they only have to appeal to his compassionate heart.

Ages back, I wrote about my Spiritual Awakening: I was able to sense a Dead Friend was somehow inside a cloud of Demonic Energy that had been lingering around my house for weeks, and after I walked him back to his house, I told him that something had fooled him, that he could no longer stay here, and to look around for Love, and go to it. With that, I felt the release, and on the walk back from there I had an experience that clearly showed me Demons were real - they were very angry with me for losing my friend - and my reaction to clearly learning that they weren't imaginary was to instinctively say I belonged to Christ, which very much surprised me, because it came out such conviction: "Jesus Christ is my Lord and Saviour."

My friend had been dead for four years. There is not a single doubt in my mind that Jesus came for him.

Remember, Jesus says Charity covers a multitude of sins. My friend mightn't have been Christian in life, but he gave up a comfortable, exciting city lifestyle to return to a small country town to look after his brother for the last eight years of his life after his brother suffered a blood clot. Jesus saw this.

If you find yourself in a very dark place, call to Him.

His words to St Faustina:

The greater the sinner, the greater the right he has to My mercy. My mercy is confirmed in every work of My hands. He who trusts in My mercy will not perish, for all his affairs are Mine, and his enemies will be shattered at the base of My footstool.
 

AnonymousBosch

Crow
Gold Member
RE: Criticisms of Coronavirus narrative [previously: Skeptics of Coronovirus]

Ah, sorry, I should have clarified. I thought some of this was understood from my posts in the Symptoms and earlier in this thread.

- I do believe this virus is was an attempt at a biological weapon that backfired on the Israelis, as they're equally susceptible to it. Most likely to do with Satan's 100 year reign ending a couple of years back. The Chabbad infection numbers in Israel are quite high. I was reading an article earlier where 50% of Chabbad students who recently returned to Israel from the US tested positive.

- I believe that outside certain racial and commorbidities, this is just a mild-to-medium flu for the majority of people.

- I believe the shortages of products in supermarkets and equipment for medical staff isn't organic either. I noticed the irregularities in logistic deliveries before the panic hit. The mail out of America has been messed up since Mid-January.

- I think the ridiculously overstated fear of its danger is being used as cover to bring about a global financial depression, UBI, and a cashless society that was already planned.
 
RE: Criticisms of Coronavirus narrative [previously: Skeptics of Coronovirus]

AnonymousBosch said:
the Western Nations have been prophecized since Fatima in 1917 to be destroyed by Russia - a message reinforced by the Akita visions in 1973.
The Akita prophesy is extremely scary:

if men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one will never have seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead.
No one can guess what the 'fire from the sky' might be, but it could be some sort of asteroid thing or bombs. If that's what's coming there is no escape.
 
RE: Criticisms of Coronavirus narrative [previously: Skeptics of Coronovirus]

Theories about the virus are irrelevant frankly. Israel is ridiculously little affected - 6500 cases and 38 official deaths. They are on par with Germany.

Israel is shut down like the rest of the retards - not that this proves anything since the real elite is way beyond Israel.

But the end-point remains - financial crash, UBI, cashless society, tyranny out of medical "necessity". "We are doing it because we want to save you."

Anyone who cares to check out a different view of why some countries even experience a slightly elevated mortality rate can do so here: https://theinfectiousmyth.com/book/CoronavirusPanic.pdf

I will do a condensed version of it later.
 

Roosh

Cardinal
RE: Criticisms of Coronavirus narrative [previously: Skeptics of Coronovirus]

AB: I agree with you about this plan in general, but there is nothing to indicate Chabbad is leading it (though they could be involved). If anything, they seem to be on the defense. Trump is the Chabbad point man and there is genuine resistance for him to go along with the "social distancing" and quarantine meme that the other side is pushing. I believe this is a left/technocratic-driven plan. The lead role of Bill Gates is a clue to that.

I don't state this to debate or hijack the thread. We'll know in a month or two. I see Chabbad/Zionism as a tolerated faction of the dialectic, but if I'm right, their power will decrease relative to the technocrats on the left.
 

AnonymousBosch

Crow
Gold Member
RE: Criticisms of Coronavirus narrative [previously: Skeptics of Coronovirus]

Simeon_Strangelight said:
< ABosch - somehow I miss the hopeful tone there.
Of course it's hopeful. The battle has already been won. If we lose our freedoms, we also lose a large number of temptations, and it's in the fire of trial and oppressive darkness that people turn to God. I watched my mother make peace with her Fear and Resentment of God during her long battle with Cancer. I also know she's in Purgatory, having received messages for prayers from her from the Holy Spirit through a Priest, despite not having taken the Eucharist or attending Church since 1981 until she took it before she died in 2010.

I also understand how St Therese of Lisieux says Purgatory is avoidable entirely if you place perfect trust in God's Mercy. I'd already intuitively understood this, because during my time at the Carmelite Monastery, Therese guided me - knowing that having a violent abusive Father meant I couldn't trust in our Heavenly one, she showed me how Loving he truly was - and so I gave away every single merit my works might receive for the salvation of the souls of others, knowing that I will stand before him with empty hands, and therefore, have nothing else to rely on but his Mercy, which would make me the luckiest man alive.

http://www.catholicapologetics.org/St Theresa on Purgatory.pdf

With that, my Priest and I were informed by the Holy Spirit that my Mother chose Purgatory - the worst pain you can ever experience of Separation from God once you've been shown him in his Reality - out of love, to bring about the conversion of my Sister and I, who was attacked by a demon around the same time I was.

And with that knowledge, I also know that, understanding I can avoid Purgatory if I trust in Him, I will offer him that suffering if He so chooses for the conversion of others, because carrying the cross for others is the highest form of charity there is.

There's great sanctity in suffering. Don't think us losing our societal comforts is necessarily a negative. As I wrote above, the world doesn't matter, but our soul is everything.
 
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