Cuban TV: Fidel Castro Dead At 90

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Comte De St. Germain

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As a revolutionary and man who made his will become reality I have the utmost respect for him. Very few have the ability to put their money where their mouth is and fight for their own cause. He long outlived his enemies and more than ever showed that the greatest revenge is surviving and fighting another day in spite of the odds.

As a dictator and ruler. A poor miserable failure of a man and a complete wretch. Lead his people down the road to poverty and misery. He could manage the geopolitical minefield, but couldn't for the life of him provide his people with the loaf of bread and quality of life to live well/further what was built by his "revolution".

There's no such thing as blanket good and evil. And you can learn a lot from the strongest of our enemies.
 

Mekorig

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@BassPlayaYo, i knew people who suffered enough because of that motherfucking SoB and his commie friends. Good ridance of that fricking dictators, and i really hope all the leftist scum here in South and Central America follow his steps like Chavez (dead).

Also, mandela is neither a role model. He was a bomb-planting terrorist. Check about the Umkhonto we Sizwe.
 

BassPlayaYo

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Mekorig said:
@BassPlayaYo, i knew people who suffered enough because of that motherfucking SoB and his commie friends. Good ridance of that fricking dictators, and i really hope all the leftist scum here in South and Central America follow his steps like Chavez (dead).

Also, mandela is neither a role model. He was a bomb-planting terrorist. Check about the Umkhonto we Sizwe.

Mandela not a role model and a terrorist? Mandela is without a doubt one of the great men of our times.
 

CynicalContrarian

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BassPlayaYo said:
Mandela not a role model and a terrorist? Mandela is without a doubt one of the great men of our times.

Setting aside all the violence his communist trained & funded African National Congress associates perpetrated against blacks & whites.
Once he was the head of state.
How well did he lift the South African blacks out of poverty?
How well did he educate his non ANC cronies?

Or did South Africa turn from being the last remaining bastion of functional civilization in Africa, towards a downward spiral of rampant crime, corruption & collapsing infrastructure?
 

BassPlayaYo

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CynicalContrarian said:
BassPlayaYo said:
Mandela not a role model and a terrorist? Mandela is without a doubt one of the great men of our times.

Setting aside all the violence his communist trained & funded African National Congress associates perpetrated against blacks & whites.
Once he was the head of state.
How well did he lift the South African blacks out of poverty?
How well did he educate his non ANC cronies?

Or did South Africa turn from being the last remaining bastion of functional civilization in Africa, towards a downward spiral of rampant crime, corruption & collapsing infrastructure?

The Apartheid regime weren't going to release power without a fight. Mandela with the Truth & Reconciliation Commission cut these folks some slack, many Whites could have been slaughtered if they had not done this.

You don't just instantly change the fortunes of all of the people especially when you make a decision to play by the "house rules". Whites had a firm grip for years on the economic power of the country for years, it took them many years to get there (Apartheid Regime) and it will take many years to undo.
 

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BassPlayaYo said:
The Apartheid regime weren't going to release power without a fight. Mandela with the Truth & Reconciliation Commission cut these folks some slack, many Whites could have been slaughtered if they had not done this.

You don't just instantly change the fortunes of all of the people especially when you make a decision to play by the "house rules". Whites had a firm grip for years on the economic power of the country for years, it took them many years to get there (Apartheid Regime) and it will take many years to undo.

There was no need to rebuild South Africa or to paraphrase Trump - "Make South Africa Great Again" back in 1994.
Economically viable (minus the politically motivated sanctions), great infrastructure & utilities.
Highly educated & viable middle & upper class.

All that Mandela & his corrupt ANC cronies needed to do was, maintain the high level of civilization, while also doing what could be done to educate & assist the lives of poor blacks.

Over 20 years later & it's all fallen apart.
Poor economy.
Poor infrastructure & utilities - frequent electricity & water 'brown' outs.
Poor desperate people who foolishly resort to highly violent crime.

Mandela at the very least just needed to maintain the status quo in terms of the economy & infrastructure.
Which he failed to do, hindering the lives of more poor black folk more than anything else.
Forget the politically motivated race & identity politics nonsense.

Although, I imagine Mandela's Swiss bank accounts prospered quite nicely...
Besides, if you're good buddies with the likes of Castro. That's rather telling.
 

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rotekz said:

Margaret Trudeau left her husband to go in a tour with the Rolling Stones, and she was notoriously promiscuous.

Knowing that then you look at this:

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Margaret Trudeau with her hands around Castro while her husband is feet away.

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And what Castro told Margaret Trudeau and her eyes.

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I would not be surprised if Justin is really Castro's son.

Margaret Trudeau being promiscuous and Castro being the leader of a revolution, Castro had the entire badboy frame, you could not go more badboy than taking down the government and being a dictator.
 

CynicalContrarian

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Justin Trudeau has a greater resemblance to a young Castro.
Than Chelsea Clinton has to Webb Hubbell.

Plus, it's not as if people are making something out of nothing by stating that... Tony Blair is the son of Castro.
We can see quite clearly that Mother Trudeau met & had a distinct liking to ol' Fidel.

That marriage was rife with in-Fidel-ity...
 

Irenicus

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sterling_archer said:
This is one of the most interesting conspiracy theories I read!

Here is another one.


Yuri Bezmenov (you heard of this guy), got a job at CBC (Canadian state owned media) soon after he escaped from Russia.

Aaand...he lost it soon thereafter...thanks to Justin(e) Trudeau's father (who was a fan of Soviet Union).


Those Trudeau's are some bad, bad hombres.
 

kosko

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The blanket terms of calling one a commie are misguided. I will never look down on a man who attempted to lead even if his directions did not go the best.

The climate of the time presented more benefits and more power to choose the Soviet style over American. After getting pillaged by USA why would one be so quick to join their side? Why be the wore that continues to sleep with the drug dealer?

Any tines these larger then life figures pass people loos perspective of the realities at ther table during the time they were brought into power.

You had more chips to play with choosing the Soviet side. All cub tired that did from the start enjoyed much greater powers. The smarter ones eventually stayed in the middle. Castro should of been more Tito and less a Mao and Cuba would of matured much better.

I am on my phone so it is not the most easy way to put forward an argument in rich detail so I will have to revisit this. But ask detractors to put yourself in hs shoes at that time. People think the decisions on what path to go were simple and were far from that.
 
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