Daily Mail article that reads like ROK: Dating coach says EE women the best

CRR

Kingfisher
It goes to show you how much culture has changed.

We're bombarded by countless articles from women complaining they can't find a 'good man'. These women are always aging spinsters ('barren ghoul' will always be my all time favorite description) and fat/obese women, who when it comes down to it, are bitter that there is no 6'4 executive Chad Thundercock for them to settle down with. The whole Lena Dunham-Odell Beckham scenario was the perfect metaphor. Fat, obnoxious woman goes into fury when peak, much younger, athlete ignores her.

That a (what appears to be) fit and successful man prefers polite, attractive women over entitled, fat women of course shouldn't be controversial at all. Yet here we are.
 

Selembao

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Dalaran1991 said:
This shit needs to be taken down ASAP, whether or not the article is bullshit.

Last thing you need is more incels flooding to Ukraine totaling ruining the market / ratio there.

It's already started with the Philippines with my player boss saying the girls are starting to get more savvy regarding their market values to foreigner. It's still good now but I dont expect it to last long.

While I agree with you, cheap and efficient flights are even more a factor in here. Last time I checked, I could get a return flight to Kiev from several european cities for less than 100$. Ten years ago, before the open sky agreement with EU came into effect, I paid 600$ for a return flight.
 

scrambled

Kingfisher
CRR said:
These women are always aging spinsters ('barren ghoul' will always be my all time favorite description)

I prefer Crypt Keeper.

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Selembao said:
While I agree with you, cheap and efficient flights are even more a factor in here. Last time I checked, I could get a return flight to Kiev from several european cities for less than 100$. Ten years ago, before the open sky agreement with EU came into effect, I paid 600$ for a return flight.

Nobody cares if it's cheap if there's no reason to go there. Say if flights to Africa is Burundi is 10€ would you go there?

In contrast guys spend thousands on PUA bootcamps, what make you think they are afraid to spend double on airfare just to see un-obese women, let alone hot women? Shit that's how British men conquered the world.

@Rex: personally I wouldn't worry about the Chinese. Their game are absolutely horrible, and the guys who do have game usually do well enough in Asia. Asian guys love the idea of a white girlfriend, but MUH TRADITION ensures that most wouldn't want a white wife, or their tyrant mother wouldnt allow it.

There's much more about that Chinese guy that people think. First off he's nowhere near ugly, that's butthurt Chinese people screaming. He is certainly not handsome, but he has a good square jaw and is physically fit, not to mention quite tall for Chinese guys. He went over there young and hustle while going to college there and met his current wife. Dude is a clear hustler and if he treats business and women the same, he's got good game.

And let's not forget there's a fuckhuge element of luck here. Not to diminish him but there's game lottery too.

Again, Asian are bound by a lot of things and it's not like they can just go on a sexodus west. This shit is nowhere new. My uncle in Poland left Vietnam early, had lots of fun there, back at the time where you can pay a HB 9 to clean your room and fuck you for a salary. And yet no sexodus happened.
 

Green-On-GO

Woodpecker
Gambler is a legend but blue pill like most PUA coaches.I never went the yank way pua wise instead I followed the Brits.Gambler, Jabba ,Krauser ,Torero.

Blackdragon does a good take down on him.I just can't believe Blackdragon meets good looking young chicks online at his age .I never seen it even from super good looking old guys from online.I've seen it from cold approach bar and street though.

I wish I could fly to EE all the time.I don't agree that all Brit girls are fat as Ive been fucking them since 1995.Brit girls have actually got alot fitter over the last 20 years.They are pussy cats for me .

I think Gamblers article is a money grab to get him more clients to pay for the wedding.Last I heard he was living in Sri Lanka or something with a sugar mummy?

Why would a Brit get married in Calf.I see no difference in his preference to EE like alot of dudes preference for SEA.Give me EE anyday
 

N°6

Hummingbird
British men are the loneliest group in the EU. Something is certainly wrong with British society and relations between men and women. I don't want to blame British women but when I hear from EU women, time and time again that they've still to make friends with a British woman after being in the UK for years, it causes me to wonder what is wrong.

Britain the loneliness capital of Europe
Britain ranks 26th out of the 28 European Union countries by the proportion of the population who say they have someone on whom they feel they could rely if they have a serious problem

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10909524/Britain-the-loneliness-capital-of-Europe.html

Loneliness among British men has been described as a “silent epidemic” with an estimated eight million admitting to feeling lonely at least once a week.

But more worryingly, around 10 per cent say they prefer to keep it hidden.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...mic-jo-cox-commission-spotlight-a7717061.html

I fell into conversation with a Russian 9 (unfortunately married) while on holiday. She was astounded to learn that I have been single for years and that this is fairly normal in the UK. She said if I went to Russia, I'd have several girlfriends and be married in a month.

I am sure many men from the UK have these anecdotes of friendly conversations that they don't experience at home.
 

N°6

Hummingbird
I have heard this many times from European women but here is a validating comment from an American:

big LD, London, United States, 2 months ago
My American wife always says the men in England are way way hotter than the women. She thinks all my mates are decent lookers, but the wife's - punching!

My ex Italian flatmate (who wondered why she had no English female friends despite having a lot of friends) used to say that she'd be ashamed if men could cook better than her like British men cook better than women.

Whether this is true of not, British men's international market value far exceeds the value that British women accord them in back home where everything seems to be a cock fest. The domestic - international value variance seems to be the widest for UK men compared to other groups of men.
 

StrikeBack

Ostrich
Gold Member
I'm pretty sure that was the reason the British Empire was built, because once upon a time, British men would do anything and go any hell hole on earth to get away from their frigid women.
 

Fortis

Crow
Gold Member
Dalaran1991 said:
@Rex: personally I wouldn't worry about the Chinese. Their game are absolutely horrible, and the guys who do have game usually do well enough in Asia. Asian guys love the idea of a white girlfriend, but MUH TRADITION ensures that most wouldn't want a white wife, or their tyrant mother wouldnt allow it.

:jordan:

So true. If I heard a country was being flooded by Chinese guys for "game" purposes I would book a ticket there ASAP because their game is not strong. Their culture does not facilitate strong game outside of China.

That rich Chinese dude is the exception, not the rule.
 

birthday cat

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Seth_Rose said:
Caleb Jones over at Black Dragon Blog wrote an article on this as it pertains to monogamous marriage:

http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2017/10/12/another-pick-up-artist-gets-married-an-analysis/

Would be curious what you guys think of that article.
I think BD is correct with much of what he says in this article. I think guys with a long history of many women usually have difficulty in relationships. But I don't know how long Gambler has been out of the game. Did he immediately go from being a player to marriage or did he slow down several years ago and work on his relationship skills before marriage? I don't know how Gambler's marriage is structured. Is his marriage in Russia and what are the laws like there?

BD makes some good points about marriage but there are women who are exceptions to the rule who can be good wives just as there are women who are exceptions to the rule who will let you bang other women. There is no perfect solution in today's world but there are many solutions that can work if you put in the work and develop the skills to make those solutions work. My personal opinion is to avoid marriage in western countries with unfair laws because those laws, the awful culture, and monogamy not being natural for humans put you in a position with the deck being stacked against you.

I've learned a lot from BD's blog although I stopped reading it a while ago. His advice on relationships is good and most of that advice applies to any type of relationship. However, someone could probably take everything he teaches and condense it down to 10 or 15 blog posts.

Genghis Khan said:
It sounds too good to be true: buy my book and you too can have a main lady who is OK with you fucking other girls on the side. (as a caveat I will say: I've never done what he's done, so I can't say it doesn't work. But I'm not convinced marriage as an institution is doomed to fail).
BD claims to bang 8s, 9s, and 10s from online game in Portland. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on 1 point on the scale since this forum essentially uses a scale that ends at 9. But if you think he is banging legit 7s, 8s, and 9s as a 45 year old in Portland then I have some beach-front property in Iowa to sell you.

A lot of what he says is too good to be true.

However, I think guys are more likely to find the unicorn attractive girl that won't fuck other guys but doesn't mind you fucking other girls, by following BD's methods rather than following the advice of guys who theorize on the Internet about traditional relationships (but don't have any actual experience). I've got some experience with this and I know other guys who do also. I think relationships like this are possible, although probably temporary, for guys who are not controlling or possessive and not manosphere keyboard warriors dreaming of a unicorn traditional wife who lets them bang other girls.

Genghis Khan said:
But having read a lot of Caleb's material, I get the impression he's never fixed his inner game.
I couldn't agree more. He claims to be low drama but most of his blog posts are framed as an argument. He is extremely argumentative and always has to be right. This is a recipe for insecurity and high drama. He also goes too far criticizing Roosh and others in the manosphere as a way to generate traffic for his website, so he is intentionally starting drama.

He is correct that a lot of the manosphere has black-and-white thinking about banging sluts versus searching for a unicorn virgin to marry. But he also has black-and-white thinking about how his system it right and everyone else is wrong.
 

Seth_Rose

Pelican
Gold Member
birthday cat said:
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Genghis Khan said:
But having read a lot of Caleb's material, I get the impression he's never fixed his inner game.
I couldn't agree more. He claims to be low drama but most of his blog posts are framed as an argument. He is extremely argumentative and always has to be right. This is a recipe for insecurity and high drama. He also goes too far criticizing Roosh and others in the manosphere as a way to generate traffic for his website, so he is intentionally starting drama.

He is correct that a lot of the manosphere has black-and-white thinking about banging sluts versus searching for a unicorn virgin to marry. But he also has black-and-white thinking about how his system it right and everyone else is wrong.

Yes, I've noticed that too. He claims to be happy and fulfilled, but all of his posts are negative and critical. Doesn't sound too cheery to me...
 

Guile

Robin
Comments section has more tears than a room full of Hillary supporters. Face it British women. You're like a red headed step son. Nobody wants you.
 

joost

Kingfisher
Looks like a charlatan. Dude is way above average in Russia though. Not ugly and foreigner from a rich county.

Doubt he's banging all those models and most likely hiring them for pictures. Then selling the idea to "easily bang 5 models at the same time".
 

questor70

 
Banned
The article is a lesson in linkbait. It is basically a hot babe image gallery to bring in the guys and it triggers the SJWs all in one fell swoop. Result = profit.
 

Space Cowboy

Woodpecker
Fortis said:
Dalaran1991 said:
@Rex: personally I wouldn't worry about the Chinese. Their game are absolutely horrible, and the guys who do have game usually do well enough in Asia. Asian guys love the idea of a white girlfriend, but MUH TRADITION ensures that most wouldn't want a white wife, or their tyrant mother wouldnt allow it.

:jordan:

So true. If I heard a country was being flooded by Chinese guys for "game" purposes I would book a ticket there ASAP because their game is not strong. Their culture does not facilitate strong game outside of China.

That rich Chinese dude is the exception, not the rule.

:laugh:
I'll echo that. The only game Chinese guys have is the renminbi game.
 

Riquelme

Sparrow
Gold Member


Presumably none of his interrogators have ever been to Russia. Two minutes on the streets of Moscow and they would see how completely right he is.
 
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