Daycares

Staff working in daycare services are all too eager to make false allegations to Children's Services (in the US and some other countries: Child Protection Services.) and claim "the child's well-being is in danger in the parents' hands". if that happens, the parent is in real danger of his/her child to be taken away from him/her by the state.
If you can, keep your children away from daycares. For your own and your children's sake.
 

Chiosboy90

Woodpecker
abandoning babies in daycares would explain much of the narcissistic culture in the west today. credible research shows the deleterious effects on the child's development and the insidiousness of it does not show until later in life: depression, inability to manage anxiety, difficulty maintaining relationships, and so on.
studying cortisol levels in the baby's body, researchers have clearly demonstrated that the baby is basically bathed in cortisol the duration of the time he's separated from his mother. this only returns to normal when he is returned to his mother. this permanently damages the brain development of the child
if a woman is not sacrificing her child on the abortion altar for the maintenance of her pleasure, convenience, material gain and vanity at the workplace, she is torturing and twisting it in the daycare chambers, more or less hobbling it psychologically for the rest of its life
modernity is hell.

Could you send me some Links about those researches?

In my country its very normal to get kids at 45 and dump it in daycare 24/7. Im regulary having arguments and get looked down on when I say, giving your child away to some strangers isnt normal. The argument I hear from women and feminised men are always: "But children need to socialise!". Yeah sure....
 
Could you send me some Links about those researches?

In my country its very normal to get kids at 45 and dump it in daycare 24/7. Im regulary having arguments and get looked down on when I say, giving your child away to some strangers isnt normal. The argument I hear from women and feminised men are always: "But children need to socialise!". Yeah sure....
As if parent's can't arrange that outside of daycares.
 

DanielH

Pelican
Orthodox
Could you send me some Links about those researches?

In my country its very normal to get kids at 45 and dump it in daycare 24/7. Im regulary having arguments and get looked down on when I say, giving your child away to some strangers isnt normal. The argument I hear from women and feminised men are always: "But children need to socialise!". Yeah sure....
As if parent's can't arrange that outside of daycares.
Right, if the mother doesn't have a full time job, there's plenty of time to arrange this stuff, even if homeschooling. Especially homeschooling in fact if you can get a co-op. I really don't understand the socialization argument, I have to assume these are a lot older people who remember school as primarily academic - younger millennials and younger will laugh at such a notion. I don't think you will find a young repentant Christian making this argument. In public school I was socialized and encouraged to: blaspheme, drink, watch p*rn, gossip, pick on other kids, watch violent videos, and be proud.

A homeschooled child may in fact seem un-socialized to normies out there, but that's probably because they call people "sir/ma'am," speak at a higher level, can't associate with p*rn and Netflix, and don't curse. People like that don't fit in in many places.

My neighbors are homeschooling their children, and my mother in law said something about them not being properly socialized (because my wife and I mentioned we're considering homeschooling when we have children), when they've introduced themselves to me and been very polite. They seem better than most children, but that's not necessarily how society will view them.
 
My neighbors are homeschooling their children, and my mother in law said something about them not being properly socialized (because my wife and I mentioned we're considering homeschooling when we have children), when they've introduced themselves to me and been very polite. They seem better than most children, but that's not necessarily how society will view them.

Lack of "socialization" is one of the stupidest myths. I'll admit my children are slightly more shy/reserved but that's because they interact with us a lot and we talk to them in a more mature way. This means when they talk to other adults, who are effectively children themselves, my children will be somewhat more quiet if only because they don't know what to say when the conversation is about nothing. They also don't know much about pop culture but by elementary age could tell you all about Western culture and history, including which examples they loved most.

Forget about "socialization." Infantile adults talking to mature homeschool kids makes you wonder who's the grown up. However, homeschooling will be one of the best decisions you ever made for your family.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Kingfisher
Orthodox
Lack of "socialization" is one of the stupidest myths. I'll admit my children are slightly more shy/reserved but that's because they interact with us a lot and we talk to them in a more mature way. This means when they talk to other adults, who are effectively children themselves, my children will be somewhat more quiet if only because they don't know what to say when the conversation is about nothing. They also don't know much about pop culture but by elementary age could tell you all about Western culture and history, including which examples they loved most.

Forget about "socialization." Infantile adults talking to mature homeschool kids makes you wonder who's the grown up. However, homeschooling will be one of the best decisions you ever made for your family.
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NoMoreTO

Ostrich
I like using the term "Day Orphanage" to describe daycare.

I picked it up off some talk radio host but it really fits the bill. It can seem harsh, but it reframes what parents are doing putting their kids in day orphages. I understand some are in a pinch but for me I prefer the old school babysitter. At least the child feels like they are in a home, and not an institution. Also, so much of the money just goes to corporate profit takers at these schools, pay the person who takes care of your kids and have a personal relationship with them.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Kingfisher
Orthodox
I don't think anyone else should be raising your children between the ages of 1-3 and prior to going off to school.

I have a 1 yr old and a 3 yr old and combined they haven't spent a min in daycare.
Given the way things are going, you shouldn’t send your kids off to school anyway, unless it’s a private Christian school that has good values.
 

rainy

Kingfisher
Given the way things are going, you shouldn’t send your kids off to school anyway, unless it’s a private Christian school that has good values.
Where I live a number of Catholic schools have closed down. However luck would have it that the one near my office is doing extremely well and has a long history in the community. That's likely where I will send my kids when they're older.

I'm not down with 5 yr olds being taught LGBTQLMNOP propaganda, BLM propaganda, anti-white propaganda and sex ed in these public schools and non-religious private schools.
 

RandyWhite

Chicken
I'm giving my child to little scholars child early education Brooklyn and I can't turn my tongue to say that this is a torture factory. This is the most competent kindergarten of all that I have met in my area. I saw a variety of options, but after talking with the specialists who work in this kindergarten, I realized how lucky I was to find this center. My child is literally happy to be in such a pleasant atmosphere, which is created by both teachers and other children. I advise you to communicate with the teachers of this center.
 

Parmesan

Pigeon
A friend if mine just had a child. Both him and his wife work from home. He has his own business so he doesn’t even have meetings or time commitments to be concerned about. He said after his wife’s leave is up they will put the kid in daycare during the day. Apparently corporate Zoom meetings are more important than their child’s prime years of development. I sort of hinted at this with him, and he seemed completely oblivious, and just seemed to assume it was a completely normal thing to do.
 
It's a challenge for many to support a family on one income.

My wife could have pulled in a decent amount of money for us, but we both wanted her to stay home and raise our children. I even got this job I have now where I could support a family: in the interview, the manager who eventually hired me asked, "why did you get your PhD?" "Because I'm insane" j/k but there is truth there, I really said, without thinking, "So I could support a family". God blesses.

It was a different time, when the company gave us all Good Friday off, but God still blesses, and I still have this job, which turned out to be a pretty good one.
 
I like using the term "Day Orphanage" to describe daycare.

I picked it up off some talk radio host but it really fits the bill. It can seem harsh, but it reframes what parents are doing putting their kids in day orphages. I understand some are in a pinch but for me I prefer the old school babysitter. At least the child feels like they are in a home, and not an institution. Also, so much of the money just goes to corporate profit takers at these schools, pay the person who takes care of your kids and have a personal relationship with them.

I remember my own mother dropping me off at daycare leaving me in my grandmother's care and going to another country. I really struggled. And I felt a profound sense of abandonment and danger I distinctly remember.

I was particularly fearful of the mean old woman there. I don't know why but something must have happened.

Didn't really function well at all. And didn't really start talking until kindergarden.
 

PrtSc

Sparrow
Before I had a kid, I was pretty against daycares, for many of the reasons expressed in this thread. To some degree I still am, but I don't look it as entirely black and white anymore. I would say there are different tiers in terms of what is best for a child. Best would be mothers looking after their kids and getting together and having activities with a group of kids together. Ideally a group of say 5 moms who get together. The kids would have their own moms but also other kids their own age to develop social skills with.

In my case, my kid was born at the very start of Covid. For the first 1.5 years, my wife did stay home with my child. The problem was there wasn't much to do. Places were closed. And worse, other moms we knew were so scared of Covid they wouldn't get together. The odd time we were able to get the kids together, there was not much interaction going on. I took some occasional days off work to help out and see first hand how my kid's days were going. It was apparent to me that the lack of time spent with other kids was having a negative impact. Needless to say I was pretty pissed off about lockdowns hampering activities and other people with kids being so brainwashed they locked themselves in their homes. Since daycares have still been open despite lockdowns, my wife and I decided to try putting my kid in part-time daycare at a privately run place we researched and liked. So we did that 5 or 6 weeks back now, and we literally saw positive changes after the first couple days. My kid started waving at other kids, smiling at them, sharing toys, etc. I'll walk my kid to the park and now there is interaction with the other kids. It's been a night and day difference that I can't ignore.

Now do I think daycare is the best option? Absolutely not. I think the best option is what I described above. But I have come to realize that it's not entirely black and white. There is a big difference between sticking a kid who is 5 months old in all day daycare 5 days a week vs waiting until the kid is older and going part-time, at least to me anyway. My situation is a little bit happenstance with this Covid scam going on. I'm not shilling for all daycares here, but I will say that if you do your own due diligence and find people you trust, it's not entirely bad. The place we send our kid has an educational element as well, which I think is important. Children do need structured learning exercises to aid in development.

One other note to consider about the best option I mentioned above, logistics are very important. My plan before was to move to an even smaller town than where I am now to get away from the city madness. If I had done that, it would be even harder for my wife and I to get together with family/friends with kids for socialization. If you do decide to go the homestead out in the boonies approach, it would be a good idea to see what options for moms there are out there. Make sure there is a church group or other ways for your wife to get together with other moms with young kids. Admittedly this was an oversight I hadn't properly considered. Your wife will also appreciate being able to talk to other moms during the day, if she is the social type.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Kingfisher
Orthodox
Before I had a kid, I was pretty against daycares, for many of the reasons expressed in this thread. To some degree I still am, but I don't look it as entirely black and white anymore. I would say there are different tiers in terms of what is best for a child. Best would be mothers looking after their kids and getting together and having activities with a group of kids together. Ideally a group of say 5 moms who get together. The kids would have their own moms but also other kids their own age to develop social skills with.

In my case, my kid was born at the very start of Covid. For the first 1.5 years, my wife did stay home with my child. The problem was there wasn't much to do. Places were closed. And worse, other moms we knew were so scared of Covid they wouldn't get together. The odd time we were able to get the kids together, there was not much interaction going on. I took some occasional days off work to help out and see first hand how my kid's days were going. It was apparent to me that the lack of time spent with other kids was having a negative impact. Needless to say I was pretty pissed off about lockdowns hampering activities and other people with kids being so brainwashed they locked themselves in their homes. Since daycares have still been open despite lockdowns, my wife and I decided to try putting my kid in part-time daycare at a privately run place we researched and liked. So we did that 5 or 6 weeks back now, and we literally saw positive changes after the first couple days. My kid started waving at other kids, smiling at them, sharing toys, etc. I'll walk my kid to the park and now there is interaction with the other kids. It's been a night and day difference that I can't ignore.

Now do I think daycare is the best option? Absolutely not. I think the best option is what I described above. But I have come to realize that it's not entirely black and white. There is a big difference between sticking a kid who is 5 months old in all day daycare 5 days a week vs waiting until the kid is older and going part-time, at least to me anyway. My situation is a little bit happenstance with this Covid scam going on. I'm not shilling for all daycares here, but I will say that if you do your own due diligence and find people you trust, it's not entirely bad. The place we send our kid has an educational element as well, which I think is important. Children do need structured learning exercises to aid in development.

One other note to consider about the best option I mentioned above, logistics are very important. My plan before was to move to an even smaller town than where I am now to get away from the city madness. If I had done that, it would be even harder for my wife and I to get together with family/friends with kids for socialization. If you do decide to go the homestead out in the boonies approach, it would be a good idea to see what options for moms there are out there. Make sure there is a church group or other ways for your wife to get together with other moms with young kids. Admittedly this was an oversight I hadn't properly considered. Your wife will also appreciate being able to talk to other moms during the day, if she is the social type.
I don’t know your individual situation, so forgive me if I’m off base, but this sounds like a massive cope.

Why would you subject your kid to daycare during Covid times, and when even ‘religious’ daycares are beginning to introduce subversive LGBT material?

I’ve kept my toddler at home, away from daycares, but she socializes with extended family and other kids frequently. I don’t see how daycare is a solution.
 
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