Deadline ABC has approached me...

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Daddy

Woodpecker
Christian, I had a close friend of mine who had a small business and was approached by a journalist from a big newspaper to make an article on him. Turned out the article sucked, had shock value, was innacurate and was made only to sell the papers.

My friend was extremely angry... then the next morning his phone kept ringing with offers to do business with him. He saw a 40% increase of his sales in one week. Then he wasn't angry anymore.
 

The Lizard of Oz

Crow
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LeBeau said:
So let me ask a question, with all the momentum you've been building up, and support from the community/recently converted guys, is it possible to reach your goals and never show your face on camera/reveal your real identity?

It's no secret that people in the media will try to slant things however they see fit, the problem would be the spillover into other areas where people just take that bias at face value.

What if you don't want to do this in 5-10 years?


Wouldn't you have more flexibility to do things in other areas, or live your life on a certain level, if you know people aren't immediately going to have pre-conceived notions?

If you do this, it wouldn't be possible to still enjoy the advantages of a double life, where you still have your freedom.

You see the stalkers that Roosh has to deal with, the character assassination, the feminist/white knight attempts to destroy his career, etc.

It seems you already have a great lifestyle with quality girls to begin with, is there any real return on this show besides extra money in your pocket?

Either way, just for getting that level of attention, I'd say congrats. I'm looking forward to meeting all the California heads at some point, though Sobe is calling me back first.


These are great points.

The bounce in sales that you'll get from the exposure is likely to be temporary. The loss of anonymity is forever, and limits your options going forward. You always want to keep your options open.

You're fucking hot pussy left and right and you're growing your brand while preserving your privacy. It's a good setup. Don't fuck with it.
 

Dusty

Owl
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If you do it I would recommend you be very prepared. If I were you, I would anticipate questions, including hostile questions, and have calm and reasonable responses at your ready. They might try to push your buttons and elicit emotions, especially anger. Don't let them do it. As Gio said, control the frame.

Being prepared and not caught off-guard will help tremendously. Prepare talking points, especially on hot button issues like date rape. Stick to your talking points no matter how they ask the question.
 

Drazen

Ostrich
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If its Nightline, its probably not going to be very hard hitting (although it may). My guess is they'll make it more to laugh at either you or your student for comedic or just pervasive observation of a strange niche of Americana, which is typical with those late night news segments. They may tie you with ROK, they may not, so that's a consideration. Of course, haters and feminist-types will react as well. I'm not sure if it will affect your business or hosting relationships at all, that's something only you would know.

Basically, its up to you if you want to be a public figure or not. Some people enjoy anonymity, some like the limelight.
 

Aliblahba

 
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I think you should work on the things we've discussed first. There is a time and place for everything. The media should be an afterthought.
 

Veloce

Crow
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No brainer. Do it.

I'd also add, even if you're painted in a bad light, it's *how* they do it.

If they paint you out to be an asshole? Hmmmm let me see...when was the last time a guy's quality of life and quality of pussy went DOWN because of being an asshole...

...that's right it doesn't. You can be an asshole to someone's face and they'll still hand you the keys to their car. I think some media training is good here, but at the same time, don't hold back. I'd say amplify your persona on screen so they don't get the chance to edit you into some basement-dwelling dweeb, which is likely what they'll try to do.

You're already larger-than-life, at least what I've seen the few nights out, just take that shit to the next level when there's a camera on you and you'll be a goddamn sensation. Game the shit out of the interviewer, don't fall into their frame, and dominate the entire experience. It's like the ultimate test of game.

No risk, no reward. Once you blow your cover, you're in the big leagues, and you better be ready to keep up. At that point, you ARE the product you're selling, and you better make sure it's a rock-solid product.
 

MikeCF

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The Lizard of Oz said:
It's not about being "risk-averse," Mike, it's about not shooting your wad prematurely.

I shake my head at the idea that McQueen needs to forfeit his privacy and anonymity for some fleeting z-list "celebrity."

It's a womanish thirst for attention at any cost.

It's book sales. I told McQueen over the phone that I would pay him cash up front for a 50% profit share of the increase in his book sales.

Fame = money.

I have advised people who appear no the media and know how it works.

You guys would rather be liked than be successful.

I would rather be successful than be liked.
 

Tenerife

Kingfisher
Dusty said:
They might try to push your buttons and elicit emotions, especially anger. Don't let them do it. As Gio said, control the frame.

They get to edit it however they want. ABC controls the frame.

As long as you don't care about your anonymity and are happy to continue with what you're doing, then go ahead and do it.
 

Snowplow

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Absolutely. I had a blast when I came out. And Mikecf is right, too much risk aversion. The only thing I'd suggest is stay slightly humble, no matter which way they portray you.

I can't wait to see it.
 

Veloce

Crow
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Snowplow said:
The only thing I'd suggest is stay slightly humble,

This could easily be edited to portray him as weak. On T.V., you don't get a chance to show subtleties of your character. You get instantly typecast into extremes like "Funny" "Boring" "Nice" "Mean" "Likeable" "Unlikeable".

How do you want the world to see you?

You'd want the world to see how you are on a Friday night out. Confident, cocky, intense, energetic, reckless, fun.

Sitting in an interview room with a blaring white light on you is not fun, and I know from experience. What do you do when a girl gets serious? You lighten it up and tease her. What do you do when an interviewer gets serious? Same thing. It's going to take some discipline and practice, but if you can swing it then there's some serious glory at stake here.
 

zwyjibo

Sparrow
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First, congratulations.

If you're 100% into what you're doing and don't have another job you're afraid of losing (which is what it seems like), then do it. Even if by some freak occurrence the "bad publicity" crushes your current business, you can start over with another business entity, another brand, another name, etc. More likely than not, the opposite will happen: you'll see more immediate monetary success, while the people who were never going to work with you anyway grouse online (e.g., Jezebel).

I know of a few specific examples of people who were pilloried on blogs and in comment sections for publicly coming out in favor of an unpopular position, but got more economic success out of it. I'd prefer not to post them here, but can be more specific over e-mail if you'd like.

Unless the act of merely going on television is going to almost certainly cost you something you can't bear to lose, the positives will outweigh the negatives.
 

Hotwheels

Crow
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As long as you are prepared for an huge boost in business I'd say go for it.

If for some reason you would not be able to cope, get those systems in place first, otherwise the boost into the spotlight will be wasted.
 

kosko

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They are notorious for spin. Be aware whom their key audience is:

30+ White women
60+ old people
Welfare/LCDs/general prole types
Cat ladys

No such thing as bad publicity but they won't shy you in a positive light. Depending on how you want the McQueen to be portrayed keep that in mind. Maybe things can get so outrageous you get a sound-bite that goes viral, but regardless Dateline isn't zero'd in in your core clients and demographics for your job and your products.

Maybe there's a assistant/intern on the assignment that's hot and you end up banging. Maybe NBCs CEO son gets in touch with you to party, all long shots but classic bad boy smear campaigns, if they arn't net based, and viral can't seem too too bad haha.

It's the net based firestorms which unelected white nights to hack your shit is what ways worries me about publicly things.
 

Aliblahba

 
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Unfortunately I think they may try and class him along side the PUA clowns. I saw those interviews that were posted here and couldn't even finish through four minutes. I've interviewed with the media on trivial affairs, but knew even back in high school to avoid any hot topic like gun control when asked. The media truly has the power of final edit. Never mind all the years spend in the ME, in bewilderment at watching the networks blatantly lie about what just happened that day over there.

I say ask a pro about the effects on future endeavors. It would be a shame to let a small interview on ABC mar up larger long term goals.
 

Billy Chubbs

Woodpecker
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Go for it brah. Expect pretty much anything to happen though; it sounds paranoid, but I wouldn't put it past them to hire some actors whose job will solely be to make you break your frame or get an otherwise negative reaction from you. Who knows with these news companies nowadays.
 

worldwidetraveler

Hummingbird
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I'm trying to understand what some of the guys here think would be the worst that could happen. Some of you guys act like one interview could kill all of his goals.

I say think about what the worst thing that could happen and if that is something you could deal with then do the show. Even if it is a hit piece I bet it would end up as a boost to your business. More people to your pod shows, more book sales, more coaching....

Always expect bad publicity, you are doing and selling something that is outside the norm. You are the product, man. Sooner or later if you want to do it big you will have to put yourself out there.
 

Beyond Borders

Peacock
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I say go for it.

Doesn't matter if they spin you wrong. Any publicity is good publicity.

Especially in your niche.

The only question on the table is whether you want all in or not. Viewing the moves you've made this year regarding your business and entering the limelight, I venture that you do. Even if it's intimidating.

Just don't lose yourself if it takes off on you. Good luck!
 
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