Deadline ABC has approached me...

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Alpha_Romeo

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I'm kinda late to the party, but the one thing about investigative journalism these days is that there is no investigative journalism: fact-finding, objectivity, or even journalism have all been thrown out the window to get the ratings at any cost to justify high fees to advertisers. They start with the story--some sensation or drama--already completed. Interviews, filmed scenes, etc. are just window dressing for the preconceived presentation.

This is going to put your game and frame to the ultimate test. I'm sure you'll be fine though. Use them for all it's worth. :banana:
 

Teedub

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Good luck brother, I reckon you should have a Skype convo with AnonymousBosch. He knows his stuff when it comes to the media - as evidenced by his posts on this thread (and others).
 

AnonymousBosch

 
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Alpha_Romeo said:
I'm kinda late to the party, but the one thing about investigative journalism these days is that there is no investigative journalism: fact-finding, objectivity, or even journalism have all been thrown out the window to get the ratings at any cost to justify high fees to advertisers. They start with the story--some sensation or drama--already completed. Interviews, filmed scenes, etc. are just window dressing for the preconceived presentation.

Was reading an business article about dying vocational fields this morning, and Journalism is one of the big ones. The summary was that investigative journalism has died - they literally can't find many graduates interested in doing it. What they are interested in: generating quick hits (i.e. celebrity gossip / pearl clutching outrage / tabloid bullshit) or content marketing.
 

AnonymousBosch

 
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Teedub: I'm flattered by the suggestion, but what McQueen is facing requires expert, not amateur, help. I fully back the idea of him paying for a professional PR groomer whose career is based around knowing how the American media works. Might be expensive, but if he kills this, the brand expansion would more than cover the cost.
 

Comte De St. Germain

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Personally I wouldn't have done it but best of luck mate. As someone said earlier make sure to keep your own recording and do it on your terms. If they don't, high tail it because they will murder you publicly. Also this should be base attention at best to get your name out there. If you want to appeal to the younger demographic(college students or dudes in their early 20s like me). The Internet is the best place still. If shit doesn't work out keep doing the podcasts and keep being part of the viral shit on Twitter. Best of luck however it may turn out. Also it may not be good to mention RvF because then we'll have feminist trolls non stop for a month or two until they take part in the next fad.
 

AnonymousBosch

 
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Ok, thinking about this some more, I'm very suspicious of their motivation.

As a base thought, women make up something like 70%-76% of communication and journalism majors. Advertising also skews to women.

As I mentioned earlier, modern media is skewing tabloid because there's a lack of interest in becoming investigative reporters. I'd mentioned this months ago re: The Business Insider article on the Manosphere. The modern millennial journalist has already drawn their conclusion before writing any 'investigative' story, because true research takes time and effort; coming to their own conclusion would require observation, consideration and original thought; and their minds aren't open to the possibility that they don't already know everything there is to know on any subject and that their morality isn't superior to anyone else's.

So why exactly do they want to do a story on you?

Not putting you down here, my man, but, realistically:

- Your radio show has varied between 4,000 - 9,000 listeners, which is damn impressive so quickly, but is it MSM impressive?

- The Amazon Book Ranking for 'Playboy' is something like #622,000. Again, this isn't MSM notable. So it's odd a major network wants to do a 'story on you'.

So, the potential here is for paranoia. A basic rule of thumb I have is: "never imagine a conspiracy is behind something that could be equally-explained as incompetence." It could honestly be that, which would lead to these two best case scenarios:

- "Let's do a story on a 'Hangover' experience!" (Tabloid 'visual' possibilities: sexy nightclub babes, conspicuous consumption, strippers etc). Google brings them to you, because they're too lazy to do non-computer research. They send out an email or quick phone call, then play Candy Crush or Facebook for the rest of the hour's allotted 'research time'. Meet the girls for a liquid lunch!

- Some chick was thinking about that Ryan Gosling movie and wondered who the guys who teach other guys game are, probably sexually-fantasising about them. Realised it might make a good tabloid story. Google brings them to you, once again, research is too hard.

The Paranoid Thinking:

Darker Scenario:

- "This Red Pill thing is A Thing, isn't it? Can we do something on that?" Expect to get mocked.

Worst Case Scenario:

- ROK has pissed off a lot of people in the last 12 months. Mainly low-resilient upper-middle-class women, who basically are the female population at university, and are the pool from which journalism and communications are drawn. Women are ultra-competitive, and 'punishing' one of us would be a huge notch in their belt. I see that as a bigger story.

In this scenario, it's an 'ambush', and the story is about the 'dark undercurrent of misogyny and bullying rife on the internet'. Words from your articles will be thrown back at you - expect them to pick on the sexual degradation. Prepare for this possible angle beforehand so you aren't visibly flustered. Think about the most likely ambush questions given ROK and your history writing for them so you know exactly what to say. You will need to be the most charming motherfucker alive.

Keep this in mind:

From 'The Devil's Dictionary', by Ambrose Bierce:
"APOLOGIZE, v.i.: To lay the foundation for a future offence."

Like I said, it might never happen. They could simply be aiming for a superficial story, and were that lazy.

I think it's worth getting them on your side though. If it really is a puff piece, and they're serious about watching you teach game to a student, say you think it would be interesting to take a novice. "How about I take one or two of the guys from your office so you can better understand the transformation?" Think the time spent with the guys as forming a bond with someone in the enemy camp.

You could even suggest before shots of the guys, and then bring them out live after a makeover / game schooling in front of some girls from the office, who could whoop and gasp etc. TV loves that kind of trite shit, and you're stealthily getting the women on your side as well, because they get to objectify men as a group, which they love doing.

Like I said. Could go either way. The media are lower than dogs to me. A relative was murdered 15 years ago, whilst a friend lost her daughter to a drunk driver about 18 years ago. A couple of times a year someone in both our families gets a call from our local media to comment on or be interviewed about anything that falls under a current murder or drunk driving accident, or involved laws or sentencing. They never fucking forget. No-one has ever commented, yet we all still get them calling: it's the definition of insanity.
 

Hotwheels

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McQueen does seem to have some connections, so perhaps that is where the major media interest came from.

Just spitballing a counterpoint to the above. It may not be a conspiracy.
 

M3B

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Fuck yeah, I've just seen this.

Cause loads of controversy. Controversy means you'll get picked again and again for TV shows.

Nice one mate.
 

Akula

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AnonymousBosch said:
The Paranoid Thinking:

Darker Scenario:

- "This Red Pill thing is A Thing, isn't it? Can we do something on that?" Expect to get mocked.

Worst Case Scenario:

- ROK has pissed off a lot of people in the last 12 months. Mainly low-resilient upper-middle-class women, who basically are the female population at university, and are the pool from which journalism and communications are drawn. Women are ultra-competitive, and 'punishing' one of us would be a huge notch in their belt. I see that as a bigger story.

In this scenario, it's an 'ambush', and the story is about the 'dark undercurrent of misogyny and bullying rife on the internet'. Words from your articles will be thrown back at you - expect them to pick on the sexual degradation. Prepare for this possible angle beforehand so you aren't visibly flustered. Think about the most likely ambush questions given ROK and your history writing for them so you know exactly what to say. You will need to be the most charming motherfucker alive.

I'm really thinking these are the likely outcomes in terms of what ABC will be coming at McQueen with. I mean come on they are a mainstream liberal news outlet that probably 95% of the the employees there are either Feminist-leaning women and/or 'white knight' politically correct male types. I'd expect a hatchet-job and go from there. Even if they were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt I think the 'controversy' comes more from them once again painting women as victims and men as the oppressor jerks who are taking advances of these chaste princesses (which is a joke, but plays well right?). So I have to think they will follow the general line of "look at these party guys living it up, taking advantage of women, how can they get away with this in this day and age', why can't they commit" etc.

Maybe I'm wrong but I'd prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Thought: Isn't there some way McQueen could do a 'dry run' of sorts, maybe with some guys on the forum who come up with a list of the toughest questions imaginable and try to put him 'on the spot'? Maybe even do a live dry run - I think some kind of rehearsal is necessary right? I'd imagine that the format will be a lot different than the radio show with Dagonet and that might be a little tricky at first as he'll be on the other end of the questions (as opposed to setting the agenda and asking them mostly).

Also, can ABC provide a rough outline of the whole interview and topics to be discussed (so you don't get totally blindsided with some loaded crazy questions like 'do you think you promote rape culture', etc. (which I'm sure they are dying to do))?
 

The Beast1

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Akula said:
AnonymousBosch said:
The Paranoid Thinking:

Darker Scenario:

- "This Red Pill thing is A Thing, isn't it? Can we do something on that?" Expect to get mocked.

Worst Case Scenario:

- ROK has pissed off a lot of people in the last 12 months. Mainly low-resilient upper-middle-class women, who basically are the female population at university, and are the pool from which journalism and communications are drawn. Women are ultra-competitive, and 'punishing' one of us would be a huge notch in their belt. I see that as a bigger story.

In this scenario, it's an 'ambush', and the story is about the 'dark undercurrent of misogyny and bullying rife on the internet'. Words from your articles will be thrown back at you - expect them to pick on the sexual degradation. Prepare for this possible angle beforehand so you aren't visibly flustered. Think about the most likely ambush questions given ROK and your history writing for them so you know exactly what to say. You will need to be the most charming motherfucker alive.

I'm really thinking these are the likely outcomes in terms of what ABC will be coming at McQueen with. I mean come on they are a mainstream liberal news outlet that probably 95% of the the employees there are either Feminist-leaning women and/or 'white knight' politically correct male types. I'd expect a hatchet-job and go from there. Even if they were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt I think the 'controversy' comes more from them once again painting women as victims and men as the oppressor jerks who are taking advances of these chaste princesses (which is a joke, but plays well right?). So I have to think they will follow the general line of "look at these party guys living it up, taking advantage of women, how can they get away with this in this day and age', etc.

Maybe I'm wrong but I'd prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Thought: Isn't there some way McQueen could do a 'dry run' of sorts, maybe with some guys on the forum who come up with a list of the toughest questions imaginable and try to put him 'on the spot'? Maybe even do a live dry run - I think some kind of rehearsal is necessary right? I'd imagine that the format will be a lot different than the radio show with Dagonet and that might be a little tricky at first as he'll be on the other end of the questions (as opposed to setting the agenda and asking them mostly).

Also, can ABC provide a rough outline of the whole interview and topics to be discussed (so you don't get totally blindsided with some loaded crazy questions like 'do you think you promote rape culture', etc. (which I'm sure they are dying to do))?

Of course, Mcqueen should ask for a list of interview questions prior. I also would ask the journalist what the official spin on this story (cite the other ABC hit piece). They'll lie, but it's best to let them know we're not stupid.

They painted the tea party as a bunch of idiots. Don't let them paint us the same way.
 

soup

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I think that if McQueen frames what we are doing as an inclusive, trying to get back to nature, Rouseau kind of thing, instead of us versus "the feminists", then non redpill people might take it more seriously.

It's not just about guys.. Redpill is about men and women as individuals getting in touch with their true natures.. It's about respecting nature and each other, and deep empathy, and recognizing the truths of our existence, no matter how unsettling those truths might be.

It's about finding yourself. That's what the alpha playboy and all the game manuals are pointing towards.
 

AnonymousBosch

 
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He could respond with a list of things Intelligent, University-Educated, Women-With-Careers have said to him, i.e. "I want your cum on my face!", "Strangle me" etc, then ask why they're trying to slut-shame strong, empowered women who are owning their sexuality? Use their language against them.

Seriously, if the MSM ever actually started talking about how fucked up the average young woman now is in relation to sex, they'd realise women are doing the degrading to themselves. I've kind of accepted that, despite all their outwards bluster, sex is where you see how women really feel about themselves. I find it depressing a lot of the time.
 

lavidaloca

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BIGINJAPAN said:
i can't wait to see what the G manifesto looks like

I think i will take in the episode down in Tampa bay at El mec's place

I haven't read anything about G manifesto making an appearance...where did you hear that?
 

Christian McQueen

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@AB:

The ebook version is vastly more popular than the paperback, but I provided the paperback of TAP as an option. Hell, I don't even buy paperback anymore, all digital books.

Valid points and no offense taken.

It is a coin toss and either way I don't care if they decide not to do it or they do.

I reached out to Ryan Holiday and he agreed to help. What it might come down to, is doing other media outlets. I have a solid connect to Montel who is pretty fair with interviews and possibly a better audience anyway.

If I'm going out in the media I'm going all out. Nightline is just the beginning. If it falls through, doesn't matter because I've been considering a media blitz for a while and will go through different channels.
 

carouge

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Sorry I noticed this thread late.McQueen, I know your decision is made but I wonder if you can negotiate, or get them to sign a contract stating that you have to approve of some kind of final cut.So that you will agree with how your image is portrayed on air.Maybe have a lawyer write something up for them.You call the shots in a way.You're the man ,they came to you kind of thing.Just thinking out loud.Not sure how the media business works but something to think of.
 

carouge

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Also do your business associates know? What do they think?Anyway congratulations. This is exciting for you and for us as well.Wish you the best!
 

AnonymousBosch

 
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Christian McQueen said:
@AB:

The ebook version is vastly more popular than the paperback, but I provided the paperback of TAP as an option. Hell, I don't even buy paperback anymore, all digital books.

Valid points and no offense taken.

It is a coin toss and either way I don't care if they decide not to do it or they do.

I reached out to Ryan Holiday and he agreed to help. What it might come down to, is doing other media outlets. I have a solid connect to Montel who is pretty fair with interviews and possibly a better audience anyway.

If I'm going out in the media I'm going all out. Nightline is just the beginning. If it falls through, doesn't matter because I've been considering a media blitz for a while and will go through different channels.

No worries, my man. Just probably being over-defensive.

Another possible angle could be that '50 Shades Of Grey' movie that's coming out. It could be a trite story along the lines of "What do women really want? We asked a self-professed playboy."

The style makeover idea was simply a ploy to turn one appearance on the show into two. But sounds like you've got, as always, a solid game plan. If all goes south, own it and don't back down. Girls watching will tell themselves that they could reform you anyway.
 
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