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<blockquote data-quote="Goni" data-source="post: 1103916" data-attributes="member: 14956">Do not confusse things by intention.The war of 2001 in FYROM was for strictly ethnic reasons , it was not made in the name of &quot; islam&quot;.You like it or not Albanians do not give too much anttention to Islam and it has never been part of their core identity.&nbsp;The war was made because because the bulgarians of FYROM did not acknowledge the right amount of rights to the non slavic population there which is native and consists of 30% of the population.Also FYROM did not win, the international community intervened to stop the war because this country invented by Tito and the west was going to disolve.Even if you would post a war lost by Turkey still does not prove your point because you have to give examples when in the specific war the party who lost the war had islam as its core ideology.However if you are trying to say that most&nbsp; &quot; muslim&quot; countries are poor and can be easily defeated you have a point but do not forget that unlike in the west the men there are more warlike and sometimes more connected to their fatherland.Iran is an example.Turkey to another degree.However both countries above are&nbsp; not much connected.Also about the West.The so called term &quot; western civilisation&quot; which was used by Brits in the 18th century it was always associated with Jews.The British Empire banks, east and west indies companies, deep politics was under jewish control.So it was the French African Empire from where the jews created a monopoly in the diamant trade.After Britain, Jews took under control the USA .Morgan and Rockefeller families were jewish founded and the control was sealed in 1913 when Federal Reserves was created.So jews and The West were heavily linked together for centuries.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Goni, post: 1103916, member: 14956"] Do not confusse things by intention. The war of 2001 in FYROM was for strictly ethnic reasons , it was not made in the name of " islam". You like it or not Albanians do not give too much anttention to Islam and it has never been part of their core identity. The war was made because because the bulgarians of FYROM did not acknowledge the right amount of rights to the non slavic population there which is native and consists of 30% of the population. Also FYROM did not win, the international community intervened to stop the war because this country invented by Tito and the west was going to disolve. Even if you would post a war lost by Turkey still does not prove your point because you have to give examples when in the specific war the party who lost the war had islam as its core ideology. However if you are trying to say that most " muslim" countries are poor and can be easily defeated you have a point but do not forget that unlike in the west the men there are more warlike and sometimes more connected to their fatherland. Iran is an example. Turkey to another degree. However both countries above are not much connected. Also about the West. The so called term " western civilisation" which was used by Brits in the 18th century it was always associated with Jews. The British Empire banks, east and west indies companies, deep politics was under jewish control. So it was the French African Empire from where the jews created a monopoly in the diamant trade. After Britain, Jews took under control the USA . Morgan and Rockefeller families were jewish founded and the control was sealed in 1913 when Federal Reserves was created. So jews and The West were heavily linked together for centuries. [/QUOTE]

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