Demons Can Put Thoughts Into Your Mind

Troller

Pelican


Incubus​

  • FEBRUARY 27, 2010
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The incubus, also called “follet” in French, “alp” in German, “duende” in Spanish, and “folletto” in Italian, was an angel who fell because of lust for women according to many of the Church Fathers. This being appears to women often in the form of a sexual dream/nightmare, and in fact the Latin word for nightmare is “incubo”, meaning to lie upon. Its counterpart is the succubus, who appears to males. When a witch or sorcerer is associated with it, it is called a magistellus or familiar.

Descriptions of Incubus
An early definition appears in the ‘Description of Wales’ in Caxton’s “Chronicle” as
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That fiend that goth a-night
Women full oft to guile,
Incubus is named by right;
And guileth men other while,
Succubus is that wight.
Guazzo described the incubus in his “compendium Maleficarum (1608)” as
The incubus] can assume either a male of a female shape; sometimes he appears as a full-grown man, sometimes as a satyr; and if it is a woman who has been received as a witch, he generally assumes the form of a rank goat.’
Incubus as Physical Beings
Sinistrari, a demonologist of the 17th century (d. 1701) explained how a spirit could become a body: as
If we seek to learn from the authorities how it is possible that the devil, who has no body, yet can perform actual coitus with a man or woman, they unanimously answer that the devil assumes the corpse of another human being, male or female as the case may be, or that, from the mixture of other materials, he shapes for himself a body, endowed with motion, by means of which body he copulates with the human being.’

St. Augustine of Hippo states in his book “On The Trinity (400-416)”:
Devils do indeed collect human semen, by means of which they are able to produce bodily effects; but this cannot be done without some local movement, therefore devils can transfer the semen which they have collected and inject it into the bodies of others.
Caesarius of Heisterbach (b. 1170) believed that incubi got their semen by collecting semen emitted during nocturnal emissions or masturbation. They could then use that to create new bodies for themselves.
Pregnancy in Incubus Encounters
Thomas Aquinas (1225-74) wrote:
Nevertheless, if sometimes children are born from intercourse with demons, this is not because of the semen emitted by them, or from the bodies they have assumed, but through the semen taken from some man for this purpose, seeing that the same demon who acts as a succubus for a man becomes an incubus for a woman.’ – “Summa Theologica”
Bonaventura (Cavalieri 1598 – 1647 maybe? reference?’) wrote
Devils in the form of women [succubi] yield to males and receive their semen; by cunning skill, the demons preserve its potency, and afterwards, with the permission of God, they become incubi and pour it out into female repositories.
Sinistrari also summarized two late 16th century writers, the Dominican Thomas Malvenda and Dr. Franciscus Valesius:
What incubi introduce into the womb is not any ordinary human semen in normal quantity, but abundant, very thick, very warm, rich in spirits and free from serosity. This, moreover, is an easy thing for them, since they merely have to choose ardent, robust men, whose semen is naturally very copious, and with whom the succubus has relations; and then the incubus copulates with women of a like constitution, taking care that both shall enjoy a more than normal orgasm, for the greater the venereal excitement the more abundant is the semen.
Incubus as Figments of the Imagination
Only by the 18th century did the hype die down and did physicians like Louis XV’s personal physician, De Saint Andre suggest that incubi were the result of the imagination:
The incubus is most frequently a chimera, which has no more basis than a dream, a perverted imagination, and very often the invention of a women… Trickery has no less a place in the history of the incubus. To conceal her sin, a woman, a girl, a nun in name only, a debauchee, who affects the appearance of virtue, will palm off her lover for an incubus spirit which haunts her.’ (“Lettres au sujet de la magie, de malefices et des sorciers, 1725)”)
Church’s View of Women
The Church was concerned with the nature of the women and as early as the late 15th century, there were three distinctions published in the “Malleus Maleficarum (1486)”
* Those who submit voluntarily as witches
* those brought against their will by witches to sleep with incubi
* those assaulted against their will
One account given by a priest said that:
In 1643 I was ordered by my ecclesiastical superiors to exorcise a young girl of twenty years of age, who was pursued by an incubus. She acknowledged without evasion everything this impure devil had done with her. But after what she told me, I came to the opinion that in spite of her denials she had given the demon some indirect encouragement. Indeed, she was always forewarned of his coming by a violent over-excitement of the sexual organs, and then, instead of having recourse to prayer, she ran straight to her room and threw herself on her bed. I tried to rouse in her some feeling of trust in God, but I did not succeed, and she seemed almost to be afraid of being delivered from the devil. (Delassus, “Les Incubes, 1897”)
 

JburgP

Chicken
I don't know if demons can put a thought into my mind, but I do know that pondering such a question eliminates a demons need to do so.
Satan is indeed our worst enemy and considering neither Satan nor his demonic cohort are omnipresent, they rely on our already tarnished minds to do their work for them. Consider this, IF you were a demon would you be satisfied with your Leader Satan? After all, for following him in his failed rebellion against God every demon was cast out of heaven and condemned to eventually being in hell and tormented for eternity. How would you feel about following someone who led you there?

I certainly feel no pity for Satan or his hoodwinked demon brigade, but I don't fear them controlling my mind either. As a follower of Christ Jesus I know this, I am made new, forgiven of sin and declared righteous by the will of God and the finished work of his only begotten son Jesus Christ. I am sealed in Christ with the Holy Spirit and my mind is being renewed.

That's right, the crap still remaining in our minds was always there, God is just exposing it to us so he can flush us clean. Don't worry about demons controlling your thoughts. IF you belong to Christ Jesus just pray to him to get on with the work of cleansing your mind.
 

Shwhite

Pigeon
Woman
It's comforting to know the evil thoughts in my head aren't really my own. Too many times have I felt guilty and discouraged over having wicked thoughts. I believe Satan uses guilt against us, to make us think that we're irredeemable. But as long as we repent and try to do better every time, there will always be hope and salvation.
 

JburgP

Chicken
It's comforting to know the evil thoughts in my head aren't really my own. Too many times have I felt guilty and discouraged over having wicked thoughts. I believe Satan uses guilt against us, to make us think that we're irredeemable. But as long as we repent and try to do better every time, there will always be hope and salvation.
Don't ever forget two very important things. 1- God has declared you righteous and perfect, NOT some time in the future, but RIGHT NOW.
2- You're no longer a prisoner of your thoughts, your thoughts are now your prisoner. We never had control of our thoughts before we were saved, now we can say "go away" and they will.
 

Cold

Pigeon
There is actually a somewhat common phenomenon among Christians called religious OCD and scrupulosity where Christians get flooded by thoughts blaspheming God, particularly the Holy Spirit since that is an unforgivable sin according to the Bible.

Unfortunately this is what I experience on a daily basis. But I have become able to distinguish between my own conscious thoughts and demonic thoughts. For one reason or another I've become a target of this kind of spiritual warfare.

The thoughts I get want me to:
- Blaspheme the Holy Spirit
- Deny, reject or leave Jesus Christ
- Hate God
- Love satan and worship him
- Do all manner of sins

But thanks to God I am able to resist these thoughts and temptations. However it can sometimes get exhausting.

There is one small comfort in these thoughts, it's that I am clearly still in Christ or otherwise why would the demons bother.
Agreed, I may have something similar and have heard of it before. How’d you distinguish between the ocd thoughts and actual demons trying to put thoughts there.
 

Cold

Pigeon
There is actually a somewhat common phenomenon among Christians called religious OCD and scrupulosity where Christians get flooded by thoughts blaspheming God, particularly the Holy Spirit since that is an unforgivable sin according to the Bible.

Unfortunately this is what I experience on a daily basis. But I have become able to distinguish between my own conscious thoughts and demonic thoughts. For one reason or another I've become a target of this kind of spiritual warfare.

The thoughts I get want me to:
- Blaspheme the Holy Spirit
- Deny, reject or leave Jesus Christ
- Hate God
- Love satan and worship him
- Do all manner of sins

But thanks to God I am able to resist these thoughts and temptations. However it can sometimes get exhausting.

There is one small comfort in these thoughts, it's that I am clearly still in Christ or otherwise why would the demons bother.

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Domino

Pigeon
This actually had me wondering: Is it true demons really put evil thoughts in our minds? Strictly speaking, can they actually put evil thoughts into our minds, or do they just induce us to evil thoughts? I know I’ve heard before that there certain limits to what they can (by God’s permission) do, and something about how demons can’t read our thoughts or that there are certain parts of our mind/intellect they do not have access to. So I’ve been trying to “study up” on this subject. Still not quite sure I understand how it works, but this is the information I’ve been able to find so far:

Very Rev. Tanquerey (A Manual of Dogmatic Theology, vol. I, tract IX, ch. IIl)
Sec. 634 2. The manner in Which Diabolical Temptation Takes Place

a.
The devil cannot act directly on the intellect and on the will, because the intellect and the will are faculties which are entirely spiritual and in their own right -- to this degree that they depend on God alone and are moved by Him alone.

b. However, the devil can act:
1) On the external and internal senses, for example, on the memory and on the imagination;
2) On the sensible appetite, for these faculties are organic and corporeal and corporeal nature serves the angels. Nevertheless, in all these cases man is free and, with God's grace, is able to overcome temptation1.

6. Refer to the Catechism of the Council of Trent, p. IV, sixth petit., n. 5 [p. IV, ch. XV, q. 5, p. 544 in the St. Benedict Press ed.]; Schram, Instit. theol. myst., CXIV and following; St. Bonaventure, In 2 Sent., dist. 8, p. 2, a. 1.
1. I Corinthians, X, 13.

Rev. Francis Spirago; Rev. Richard Clarke (The Catechism Explained : an exhaustive exposition of the Christian religion, with special reference to the present state of society and the spirit of the age),1899.
3. The evil angels are our enemies; they envy us, seek to lead us to sin, and can, with God’s permission, injure us in our bodies, or in our worldly goods.
The evil spirits are our enemies. With all their spite they can do nothing against God; so they vent their fury against men, who bear the image of God. Many theologians have asserted that the places of the angels who fell will be filled in heaven by men. “ The knowledge that a creature of earth will occupy his place in heaven,” says St. Thomas, “ causes the devil more pain than the flames of hell.” It was the devil who led our first parents to sin, and also Judas ( John xiii. 27). The devil can also, so far as God permits, injure the bodies and the goods of men, as in the case of Job and the possessed in Our Lord’s time. The devil’s great object is to effect the ruin of the Church, which he knows is to be the means of destroying his power on earth (Matt. xvi. 18 ; Luke xxii. 31). He also knows that he and his angels will one day be judged by the saints (1 Cor. vi. 3). Many be- lieve that as God assigns to each child at its birth a guardian angel, so the devil assigns to each a special devil to tempt it. Hence we must imitate the Jews when rebuilding the Temple (2 Esdr. iv. 17). We must work with one hand and with the other defend ourselves against the foe.

Yet the devil cannot do real harm to any one who keeps the commandments of God and avoids all sin.​
The dog that is tied up cannot do any harm to those who keep out of range of his chain. The devil is like this dog. He can work on our memory and our imagination, but he has no power over our will or our understanding. He can persuade us, but he cannot compel us to evil. We must therefore energetically and promptly repel all bad thoughts that the devil puts into our heads.“ Resist the devil,” says St. James (iv. 7), “ and he will fly from you.” Our Lord dispatched the devil very promptly when He said “ Begone, Satan ! ” It is a great thing to treat the devil and his temptations with great contempt, and also to turn our thoughts to other things, and not allow ourselves to be disturbed or troubled by his suggestions. He who allows himself to dwell on evil thoughts draws near to the dog who is chained, and is almost sure to be bitten by him. If the devil were allowed to use his full power against us we could not resist him, for when he fell he did not lose any of his natural powers, though he lost eternal happiness.

God gives the devil special power over some men :

1. God often allows men who are striving after high perfection, whom He especially favors, to be tried by the devil for long years in some extraordinary way, in order to cleanse them from their imperfections, and thoroughly humble them.
God allows His elect to be constantly besieged by the devil for years, and to endure temptations of extraordinary violence. Sometimes the devil appears to them in visible form; sometimes he assails their ears with hideous sounds; sometimes he is permitted to strike them and to throw them on the ground. God protects their life, but allows the devil to torment them with bodily pain and with sickness. They suffer the most terrible temptations against faith and against purity. The evil one has no power over their souls, but sometimes God allows him power over their bodies, so that they do and say the most extraordinary things in spite of themselves, in order that so they may be humbled in the eyes of men. Sometimes they even pour forth blasphemous words, and have no power to prevent themselves from doing so. These assaults of the devil are called ob- session. Holy Job was assailed by the devil; and so was Our Lord in the desert; so were St. Anthony, St. Teresa, St. Mary Magdalen of Pazzi, the Cure d’Ars, and many other saints. These holy persons knew that God would never allow them to be tempted beyond their powers of resistance, and that God permitted these temptations for their greater sanctification. They were perfectly resigned to the will of God, and at length drove away the devil by their fearless resistance to his assaults. Thus when the devil threatened the life of St. Catha- rine of Sienna, she answered, “ Do what you can ; what is pleasing to God is pleasing to me.” St. Mary Magdalen of Pazzi said to him, “ You do not seem to know that you are preparing for me a glorious victory.” St. Anthony in the desert defied him, saying, “ How feeble you are ! I suppose that is why you are bringing such a crowd of devils to tempt me.” When those who are tempted meet the devil with the courage of a lion, he has no more power against them than a startled hare, but when they fear him, then he comes on with all the force and boldness of a lion. He can always be driven away by the means of grace provided by the Church; by the sign of the cross, by invoking the name of Jesus and Mary, by holy water, by earnest prayer, by the use of relics, etc. The more violent the assaults of the devil, the greater will be the protection afforded by almighty God to His servants; often during times of trial they have revelations from God, or saints and angels appear to them to console and strengthen them. Those who deny the reality of these occurrences, of which we so often read in the lives of the saints, show very little acquaintance with the spiritual life. Yet it is the spirit of the Church to receive all accounts of these preternatural and super- natural occurrences with great caution, as there is always a danger of illusion or deceit. Nor need ordinary mortals fear such special attacks of the evil one; they are reserved for the special friends and favorites of God.
2. It also sometimes happens that God allows men of vicious lives, or those who sin against faith, to be punished or led astray by evil spirits.​
God sometimes permits that the bodies of men who have given themselves over to the indulgence of their passions be possessed by evil spirits, as a town is occupied by a general who has conquered it. This state is called possession. In the time of Our Lord there were many thus possessed, and who in consequence were dumb (Matt. ix. 32), blind (Matt. xii. 22), and exceeding fierce (Matt. viii. 28). God permitted that then there should be many such, that He might show the power of the Son of God and the feebleness of the devils in His presence, and that He might drive them forth from those whom they tormented. Yet it does not follow that all who were possessed were necessarily so through their own fault. Some children were possessed from their birth (Mark ix. 20). Sometimes God allowed even holy men to be possessed for a time; but more often it was a punishment for grievous sin, and especially for a deliberate friend- ship with the devil, as was the case with the witch of Endor (1 Kings xxviii. 7 seq . ; Cf. Acts xvi. 16). Such cases are not unfrequent now in pagan countries. God also permits the evil spirits to mislead those who practise spiritualism, which consists in the invoking of the spirits of the dead in order to discover things secret, or that are taking place at a distance. The devils personate the spirits invoked, and by their superior knowledge are able to reveal many things, by which they delude those who deal with them into thinking that they are really conversing with some departed relative or friend. On these occasions the spirits will sometimes take a material form. Spiritualism leads to the loss of faith or of morals, or at least to the ruin of the peace of mind of the person practising it. Very often it is mixed up with a great deal of imposture.​

And this quote from St. Anthony of Padua:

“The demon can enter by the five senses, but only by the lips can he be rejected. Through many chambers does he have access to our conscience, but only through one door can he be expelled, that is: through the mouth, by confession.”
 

Cold

Pigeon
This actually had me wondering: Is it true demons really put evil thoughts in our minds? Strictly speaking, can they actually put evil thoughts into our minds, or do they just induce us to evil thoughts? I know I’ve heard before that there certain limits to what they can (by God’s permission) do, and something about how demons can’t read our thoughts or that there are certain parts of our mind/intellect they do not have access to. So I’ve been trying to “study up” on this subject. Still not quite sure I understand how it works, but this is the information I’ve been able to find so far:

Very Rev. Tanquerey (A Manual of Dogmatic Theology, vol. I, tract IX, ch. IIl)


Rev. Francis Spirago; Rev. Richard Clarke (The Catechism Explained : an exhaustive exposition of the Christian religion, with special reference to the present state of society and the spirit of the age),1899.


And this quote from St. Anthony of Padua:

“The demon can enter by the five senses, but only by the lips can he be rejected. Through many chambers does he have access to our conscience, but only through one door can he be expelled, that is: through the mouth, by confession.”
Interesting words to look into, I am not sure about the concept of God's favourites ? Could they mean the elect ?
 
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