Did we land on the moon?

Do you believe that we landed on the moon?

  • Yes

    Votes: 81 51.6%
  • No

    Votes: 50 31.8%
  • Don't know / not sure

    Votes: 26 16.6%

  • Total voters
    157
  • Poll closed .

andy dufresne

Pelican
Other Christian
Yep I am a cg artist and I work on films. If you gave me 100th of NASAs budget I could show you videos of anything you want. I could make you a video where I send an ariel drone to Jupiter and zoom through volumetric clouds with ray traced lighting effects complete with subsurface scattering and photo-real textures. If it looked janky -like the original moonlanding videos- people would just go “that’s how outer space looks…people are unaccustomed to seeing something so alien”

Render engines simulate light rays with as much precision as GPU power you throw at them. Get a lot of computers working together and you can make most anything.

There was cooperation with the movie industry to create the first moon videos and I see no reason it would’ve ever stopped.

This is all hypothetical and I can’t prove anything, just speculation.
It's becoming more and more obvious that Kubrick (the moon landing director) was a globalist propagandist puppet.

His last movie, 'Eyes Wide Shut' is actually thinly veiled documentary about the true depravity of the elite. The orgy scene was filmed in a Rothschild mansion. They just love to rub it in our faces.
 

GuitarVH

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
Oops....guess the CGI dept wasn't ready. Oops!


It's all so ludicrous at this point. I don't even like to spend much time on it any more because it was so obviously faked as the current 43 pages of this thread have demonstrated to various degrees.
 

Iacobus

Robin
Orthodox
It's becoming more and more obvious that Kubrick (the moon landing director) was a globalist propagandist puppet.

His last movie, 'Eyes Wide Shut' is actually thinly veiled documentary about the true depravity of the elite. The orgy scene was filmed in a Rothschild mansion. They just love to rub it in our faces.

Nah he was a whistleblower in EWS. Admittedly he did some work for them in Hollywood in the '60s & very likely on moon footage but it is my considered opinion that he repented, you'll note after 2001-era he left the USA never to return and lived in the English countryside & refused to film anywhere but Britain. EWS was a redpill for countless folk & Kubrick was always antiwar in a very noble sense. His daughter Vivian is also turbo redpilled.

I'm 99% sure he was around for some really sick stuff going on in 1960s Hollywood/California & he stepped away from it very intentionally & decided to make EWS when he knew he only had one more film left in him. He told those close to him "never go near anyone with real power."
 

andy dufresne

Pelican
Other Christian
Nah he was a whistleblower in EWS. Admittedly he did some work for them in Hollywood in the '60s & very likely on moon footage but it is my considered opinion that he repented, you'll note after 2001-era he left the USA never to return and lived in the English countryside & refused to film anywhere but Britain. EWS was a redpill for countless folk & Kubrick was always antiwar in a very noble sense. His daughter Vivian is also turbo redpilled.

I'm 99% sure he was around for some really sick stuff going on in 1960s Hollywood/California & he stepped away from it very intentionally & decided to make EWS when he knew he only had one more film left in him. He told those close to him "never go near anyone with real power."
I hope you're right. The guy was a true genius.

Still wonder how he was able to film the scene in a Rothschild mansion and get a major studio to distribute the movie.
 

Iacobus

Robin
Orthodox
I hope you're right. The guy was a true genius.

Still wonder how he was able to film the scene in a Rothschild mansion and get a major studio to distribute the movie.

The mansion was no longer owned by the Rothschild family at the time of filming, as for the latter he just had to cast Tom Cruise & Nicole Kidman and bill it as a steamy erotic thriller. Then when they saw what exactly was going on in the flick, he died suddenly before release & undisclosed edits were made.
 

KomnenAl

Robin
Orthodox
Nah he was a whistleblower in EWS. Admittedly he did some work for them in Hollywood in the '60s & very likely on moon footage but it is my considered opinion that he repented, you'll note after 2001-era he left the USA never to return and lived in the English countryside & refused to film anywhere but Britain. EWS was a redpill for countless folk & Kubrick was always antiwar in a very noble sense. His daughter Vivian is also turbo redpilled.

I'm 99% sure he was around for some really sick stuff going on in 1960s Hollywood/California & he stepped away from it very intentionally & decided to make EWS when he knew he only had one more film left in him. He told those close to him "never go near anyone with real power."
This is hard to believe, considering 2001 Odyssey is filled with nihilism, evolutionism and transhumanism. What's your take on that?
 

Iacobus

Robin
Orthodox
This is hard to believe, considering 2001 Odyssey is filled with nihilism, evolutionism and transhumanism. What's your take on that?

Kubrick was an atheist humanist and those themes are the result of those beliefs. I would nitpick that the film isn't so much evolutionist as it is feeding into the increasingly popular theory that "aliens" made us or it's a "simulation" of some kind. Which is equally bad to be fair. I also don't think the film was transhumanist as the story of HAL-9000 is actually cautionary & showing how things go catastrophically wrong as soon as we place undue faith in our technological creations. But it does feed into the gnostic idea of progressive steps of human enlightenment based on discovery as opposed to repentance.

So yeah my personal thesis as a student of Kubrick for ~20 years that he was involved in that shady shit in the 60s, he was around occult stuff & government cultural black-ops, and when it fully dawned on him how dark the goings-on were, then he distanced himself from it as much as possible & tried to blow the whistle on what he had seen as his life was nearing its end. Of course he wasn't empowered by Christ so his resistance was relatively meager in the end but disagree that he was a globalist/NWO puppet his whole life. His films are pro-human albeit in a twisted way.

Edit: I imagine Tom Cruise's character as being a stand-in for Kubrick's personal brushes with the occult elite during his Hollywood/2001/moon landing years. Naive & wanting to be part of the club but then being bewildered and horrified by what he encounters.
 
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Max Roscoe

Hummingbird
Orthodox Inquirer
There are a lot of other white countries out there, and none of them have gone to the moon. The US (using displaced Germans) developed the atom bomb in 1945. The Soviets did so in 1949. The UK in 1952. China in 1964. India, a far poorer and less developed nation, did so in 1974.

We're talking single digit years to catch up with splitting the atom, yet nations who have developed space travel weren't able to figure out how to pilot that vehicle to the moon in 60 years?

Remember, the Russians beat the USA to space, but 60 years later haven't been able to replicate our moon landing of 1964? Something is a bit off with that logic.

Of course, America is a broken society today, and generally can't do anything. But it was still a functional and sane country until about 1999, as was most of the rest of the white world. That doesn't explain why no one else has visited the moon, nor why the footage of the first people to do so was destroyed.

As for Kubrick, I cannot believe there is not a Kubrick thread here, but in my book he was one of the good guys, and there is a huge difference between revealing evil and participating in it.

Also I might add that it's a glaring contradiction to say that we didn't have the technology to land on the moon, but we did have the technology to fake it. And in particular the things that you mentioned that would be most needed to create a believable fake version of it. (digital rendering etc.)
No one is questioning whether a moon landing could be faked; Hollywood was already faking moon scenes very believably by that time.

Actually the the space scenes in something like 2001 are *better* quality than the NASA footage itself, so if anything, the fakery was *more* realistic, in the Baudrillard sense of hyperreality. This is a red herring.

Proposed by Jean Baudrillard, the concept of hyperreality captures the inability of consciousness to distinguish reality from a simulation of reality. This is more prominent in technologically advanced societies. Hyperreality is seen as a condition in which what is real and what is fiction are seamlessly blended together so that there is no clear distinction between where one ends and the other begins.
 

cosine

Kingfisher
Does this claim hold true for unmanned missions?
Yep I am a cg artist and I work on films. If you gave me 100th of NASAs budget I could show you videos of anything you want. I could make you a video where I send an ariel drone to Jupiter and zoom through volumetric clouds with ray traced lighting effects complete with subsurface scattering and photo-real textures. If it looked janky -like the original moonlanding videos- people would just go “that’s how outer space looks…people are unaccustomed to seeing something so alien”

Render engines simulate light rays with as much precision as GPU power you throw at them. Get a lot of computers working together and you can make most anything.

There was cooperation with the movie industry to create the first moon videos and I see no reason it would’ve ever stopped.

This is all hypothetical and I can’t prove anything, just speculation.
Most of my immediate family all worked in aerospace at some point. I also worked in an aerospace lab for a bit, including on missions like this:

How is this mission fake? How am I, and everyone I worked with, so stupid that we couldn't tell that 50% or more of the lab's missions are fake? Were the low-orbit missions fake as well? For example ones that study the earth's electromagnetic field? Or NOAA weather satellites?

For all of that to be false, we'd really have to be living in a simulation akin to The Matrix.
 
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Cavalier

Kingfisher
Orthodox
Most of my immediate family all worked in aerospace at some point. I also worked in an aerospace lab for a bit, including on missions like this:

How is this mission fake? How am I, and everyone I worked with, so stupid that we couldn't tell that 50% or more of the lab's missions are fake? Were the low-orbit missions fake as well? For example ones that study the earth's electromagnetic field? Or NOAA weather satellites?

For all of that to be false, we'd really have to be living in a simulation akin to The Matrix.
I would call into question any claims of having left the electro-magnetic field of the Earth. Anything within the field would be real.
 

Johnnyvee

Ostrich
Other Christian
There are a lot of other white countries out there, and none of them have gone to the moon. The US (using displaced Germans) developed the atom bomb in 1945. The Soviets did so in 1949. The UK in 1952. China in 1964. India, a far poorer and less developed nation, did so in 1974.

We're talking single digit years to catch up with splitting the atom, yet nations who have developed space travel weren't able to figure out how to pilot that vehicle to the moon in 60 years?

Remember, the Russians beat the USA to space, but 60 years later haven't been able to replicate our moon landing of 1964? Something is a bit off with that logic.

Of course, America is a broken society today, and generally can't do anything. But it was still a functional and sane country until about 1999, as was most of the rest of the white world. That doesn't explain why no one else has visited the moon, nor why the footage of the first people to do so was destroyed.

As for Kubrick, I cannot believe there is not a Kubrick thread here, but in my book he was one of the good guys, and there is a huge difference between revealing evil and participating in it.


No one is questioning whether a moon landing could be faked; Hollywood was already faking moon scenes very believably by that time.

Actually the the space scenes in something like 2001 are *better* quality than the NASA footage itself, so if anything, the fakery was *more* realistic, in the Baudrillard sense of hyperreality. This is a red herring.

Once the race to the moon was decided the interest fell, since it was more about politics and power than science. (although if you count the first US uncrewed mission in 62 you had a full decade of lunar exploration) But the rest of the developed world also did sophisticated space exploration before and after, unless you also question that? Soviets sent a man into orbit and later missions to Venus, the US to Mars and other planets. Space shuttle, telescopes in orbit and space stations etc. It becomes a difficult proposition to question all of that. You might as well say that the moon and planets does not exist at all.

You would also have to fake all the footage from all the moon landings and exploration. And why didn't any other nation (the Soviets) call this bluff out. They had the tools to monitor space and had an interest in doing so, yet they've never questioned it.
 

JuanChristophorus

 
Banned
Trad Catholic
Nah he was a whistleblower in EWS. Admittedly he did some work for them in Hollywood in the '60s & very likely on moon footage but it is my considered opinion that he repented, you'll note after 2001-era he left the USA never to return and lived in the English countryside & refused to film anywhere but Britain. EWS was a redpill for countless folk & Kubrick was always antiwar in a very noble sense. His daughter Vivian is also turbo redpilled.

I'm 99% sure he was around for some really sick stuff going on in 1960s Hollywood/California & he stepped away from it very intentionally & decided to make EWS when he knew he only had one more film left in him. He told those close to him "never go near anyone with real power."
I press X to doubt. Did A Clockwork Orange strike you like repentance with naked Jesus statues?
 

Prores

Robin
Orthodox
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How is this mission fake? How am I, and everyone I worked with, so stupid that we couldn't tell that 50% or more of the lab's missions are fake? Were the low-orbit missions fake as well? For example ones that study the earth's electromagnetic field? Or NOAA weather satellites?

For all of that to be false, we'd really have to be living in a simulation akin to The Matrix.

Compartmentalization- if I get hired at Boeing I will only know what I’m allowed to know, and the same goes for the people above me. Just like how the secret societies our astronaut heros belong to operate.

I don’t believe people have left low earth orbit, this is an important distinction.

Again this is all just speculation on my part, just like I said in my original post.

Edited because my phone died while I was replying
 
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911

Peacock
Catholic
Gold Member
Does this claim hold true for unmanned missions?
No, unmanned missions really did land on Mars, much further and harder than getting to the moon. It's not nearly that hard with late 20th/early 21st century tech.

There is a possibility that China could actually pull off a manned mission to the moon by say, 2040. If they can't make it then, it would put to rest any doubts that Apollo never got there.

Once the race to the moon was decided the interest fell, since it was more about politics and power than science. (although if you count the first US uncrewed mission in 62 you had a full decade of lunar exploration) But the rest of the developed world also did sophisticated space exploration before and after, unless you also question that? Soviets sent a man into orbit and later missions to Venus, the US to Mars and other planets. Space shuttle, telescopes in orbit and space stations etc. It becomes a difficult proposition to question all of that. You might as well say that the moon and planets does not exist at all.

You would also have to fake all the footage from all the moon landings and exploration. And why didn't any other nation (the Soviets) call this bluff out. They had the tools to monitor space and had an interest in doing so, yet they've never questioned it.

The Soviets had (1) zero credibility with the western public (think of Putin/Russia today and Russiagate gaslighting) and (2) they didn't want to redpill the public in general about the govt lying to them, because they were much worse than the West in terms of lying to their citizens.

Also, there was an underlying complicity between the West and the Soviets, as well as some (((financial ties))), so they kept within those gentlemen agreement rules. That's why the Cold War was a period of relative global stability, much more so than the current edition of GAE vs Orthodox Christian Russia, where we're seeing in real time the gloves come off and the start of a 4th generation hybrid war.
 

Max Roscoe

Hummingbird
Orthodox Inquirer
Wow, thanks for posting that video. I saw the headlines about the "successful crash" and thought "Wow, I'm surprised it worked. I didn't think America could do anything anymore." But that video is faker than a short form birth certificate. The female reactions killed me.

I'd love to see one of those "react" videos popular on youtube now, if you showed this to some Cosmonauts :D
 

president

Ostrich
Protestant
Gold Member
Wow, thanks for posting that video. I saw the headlines about the "successful crash" and thought "Wow, I'm surprised it worked. I didn't think America could do anything anymore." But that video is faker than a short form birth certificate. The female reactions killed me.

I'd love to see one of those "react" videos popular on youtube now, if you showed this to some Cosmonauts :D
It looked like a Saturday morning employee pep rally at Best Buy - blue polos, khakis and an overly enthusiastic boss guy in a suit.

I also doubt we landed on the moon. The federales have a long exhaustive track record of lying and no one's done it since. It should be far easier now too given the advancements in tech since that time. If they were smart, they would do it and prove that it can be done. Land there, drive a go cart around and come back. I dare them to.
 

homersheineken

Pelican
Protestant
Wow, thanks for posting that video. I saw the headlines about the "successful crash" and thought "Wow, I'm surprised it worked. I didn't think America could do anything anymore." But that video is faker than a short form birth certificate. The female reactions killed me.

I'd love to see one of those "react" videos popular on youtube now, if you showed this to some Cosmonauts :D
I especially liked the uneven countdown that had absolutely nothing to do with the crash in terms of timing.
 
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