Not necessarily. People who would want to pull off such a deception could be very few while the rest of the workers genuinely think they are working toward legitimate operations. The only people who would need to know about any fakery would be astronauts and camera men. While mechanics, technicians, engineers, data scientists could all legitimately think they were working toward something. Just as with every other area of science people will just look around and say exactly what you are, 'it just can't be since someone would say something'. That's not proof tho and as we've seen with vaccines, COVID, and many other things -- science really behaves like any other hive mind where mob think dictates and noone wants to be seen as the dumb antivaxxer. Scientists who get jobs in these companies and agencies have to go through several mechanisms sorting for conformity.
Did we land on the moon?
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It's all such unbelievable pseudoscience honestly. Think about when they came up with the theory for light years. Wiki claims it's 1838. It's 100% abstractions of abstractions of abstractions. We couldn't even leave earth at that time and yet we're claiming to measure distances of billions of miles with any accuracy. Observable? No how could it ever be. Repeatable? Well yeah we'll just use the same unproven, unobservable formulas
Philip F. Nelson is an amazing researcher and author, especially regarding LBJ. His books are a must read.
Here are his contributions to this topic, followed by some good summary videos.
https://lbjthemasterofdeceit.com/20...n-b-johnsons-greatest-hoax-of-all-you-decide/
https://lbjthemasterofdeceit.com/20...ded-the-kick-off-of-the-hoaxed-filming-event/
https://lbjthemasterofdeceit.com/20...969-72-faked-moon-landings-now-deconstructed/
Here are his contributions to this topic, followed by some good summary videos.
https://lbjthemasterofdeceit.com/20...n-b-johnsons-greatest-hoax-of-all-you-decide/
https://lbjthemasterofdeceit.com/20...ded-the-kick-off-of-the-hoaxed-filming-event/
https://lbjthemasterofdeceit.com/20...969-72-faked-moon-landings-now-deconstructed/
Wait till you guys discover that ole Stephen Hawking was just some messed up dude they put in a wheel chair and faked his authorship on all those 'works of genius'. The rabbit hole goes deep.
When you see how easily everyone accepted all of the new “truths” from the past few years, it is clear that people are easy to mold. It’s not hard at all, and there is a spiritual component to it.
I know mechanical engineers focused on building lenses and sensors for cameras aka "instruments" aboard the ISS. After launch, when the instrument is operating, the team evaluates the data from that camera. They receive actual data, streams of it, for years.
I also know people who work on the communication devices that get fixed to cubesats. With cubesats you typically have ~60 cubesats launch off one rocket since each one is only about the size of a microwave. Once the 60ish cubesats are ejected, they are still flying very close to one another in a "cloud". One team's cubesat needs to be located out of the cloud, and there is commonly some struggle to ensure that operators on the Earth can control it properly.
After launch, the antenna guy is responsible for communication working, and the camera sensor guy is responsible for the incoming images. Even the low-level employees typically have invested years of their lives building one tiny part of a satellite; they are heavily invested in making sure it works as designed. What does this have to do with moon landings? If a modern satellite doesn't turn on or produce data as expected and designed, lots of bottom-level engineers would figure it out very quickly. The Apollo missions were no different.
Industries like aerospace in the US build machines that work. When they don't work, rockets blow up on the launch pad, or crash into Mars. They are not like sociology journals that can be infiltrated by James Lindsay in a few months.
That's assuming the footage is real which is a big assumption. People who worked on Apollo 11 have been quoted that the actual landing looked exactly like the test runs they did on earth.
I think you're missing the point... I'm not saying those jobs aren't real or the workers aren't legitimately invested. Just in your example how many people would need to be in on faking it? Only the people dealing with the actual launch on the ground and those producing the actual footage. Everyone else could wholeheartedly believe in their work. The people watching the launch after having done their jobs could be just as easily hoodwinked by it all as the public. They would be more gullible if anything because they know they produced something and it wouldn't make any sense for the agency to be faking it.
This is the entire point I've been trying to make: the people doing their jobs are not easily hoodwinked.
Caduceus
Ostrich
Satellites in "outer space" can supposedly give us ultra detailed pictures of military troop movements in North Korea or on the border between Ukraine and Russia, or of hurricanes approaching Florida, but cannot ever provide clear images or videos of the entire full earth (not just a partial view) rotating in space. It should actually should be the opposite way around, considering the enormous far away supposed location of these satellites.
Doesn't make sense.
Doesn't make sense.
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What’s your take on the covid situation and how the professionals handled it?
They did a fantastic job if their goal was genocide, misery and general loss of rights and well-being for the majority of people on the planet.
- Trainwreck of lies and manipulation
- WHO, CDC, etc "abusing their new authority" would be an enormous understatement
- Stunted childrens' lives while bars, concert venues(for adults to do hard drugs), liquor stores, weed shops all remained open and churches were forced to close
- Obesity and diabetes(aka Gluttony) are the primary reasons for covid death/hospitalization, and our lockdowns only increased obesity and diabetes, so our "professionals" caused the exact opposite effect that would help humanity long-term
- Instead of prescribing exercise or telling patients to stop eating a piles of garbage, "medicine" has created new profitable solutions
Dude what are you talking about? Everyone in the medical field believes in the killshot working except for like 3 doctors. Even after the spike in deaths and neurological damage of their own patients many doctors are still parroting that the killshot is safe and effective.
Also if there was never an actual attempted space launch, then they would never know if the parts they manufactured were defective or not.
I'd be interested in seeing a thread on that.
Me too. Most people die within a few years of an ALS diagnosis and only a small percentage live 10, 20, 30 years or more. So statistically, it's improbable that he lived as long as he did. I'd like to see real numbers on that.
Of course I have no evidence he was 'replaced', but would like to see the argument for it.
I know Miles Mathis has a paper on it but I haven't perused it in-depth and am not convinced of the writer's credibility yet: http://milesmathis.com/hawk3.pdf
Caduceus
Ostrich
Isn't that the guy who claims JFK and RFK both faked their own deaths ?
Even among the hardcore conspiracy crowd he's considered crazy.
Based people in medical fields quit during covid, or got fired for refusing the jab.
Based people in aerospace all believe in the moon landings.
Your argument was centered squarely around the inability to deceive industry professionals, and if you’re being honest you have to concede that has happened on a global scale.
Weather or not you think it’s possible is an autobiographical detail, not a refutation of the fact that it has happened in the medical field en masse.
Weather or not you think it’s possible is an autobiographical detail, not a refutation of the fact that it has happened in the medical field en masse.