Did we land on the moon?
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Strong man propaganda.
The strong man in the bible is a picture of Satan.
I think the moon landing hoax was a cover to get massive funding for NASA which was redirected to intelligence agencies to set up spy grids and internet surveillance. @doodydota
We can't compare a 2 bar tire in a 1 bar environment. To a 1 bar object in a 0 bar environment.
The forces grow exponentially the stonger the vacuum becomes.
E.g. 1 bar vs 0.1 bar is 10x difference.
We could compare inflating your car tire to 10 bar in 1 bar environment to a 1 bar spaceship in a 0.1 bar environment. (the real pressure is a lot lower in space)
Your car tire would explode at 10 bar.
I think it's less special than we think.
It's the same stuff I see in the corporate workplace often, we start a project, we put a lot of energy into it, we desire that project to be a success. If you are in a corporate environment and read the emails you get, you would think the business would be growing 10X every year. People claim successes all the time that are actually failures. They show a 10x growth but forget to say it's on a 100 dollar project. Sometimes it is framing, sometimes exaggeration, sometimes blatant lies.
The same principles go at the government, the ruler says: develop the strongest bomb ever, let's go to the moon, let's make everyone rich. And the system starts working.
There is a problem though going back to the voters saying:
It's the same today:
Does anyone belief we get better health care, roads, airport and less inflation?
When have we heard a politician say? "Hey I invested and failed."
Never.
Careers are built on success not on failure. People in their administrations, press, media will never challenge the leader. (they are also dependant on the success)
The emperor has no clothes.
I can very well see a president saying (have seen this many times in my working life)
The same is now happening with Corona, the last 2 years have been a huge governmental disaster. Has any politician stood up? And say: I'm sorry, we really made cardinal mistakes.
These big organisations (government or corporate) are full of lies as they are not challenged, whole careers are built on lies.
Exposing the lies of the previous generation is very risky, these people are powerful and will bring you down. The whole reason you are up, is that you won't challenge the lies of the past. You will just create your own. Which leader would let a boy go up in the ranks that is willing to expose his fraud?
For that reason whistleblowers are always worse off. The system will turn against them, leaders, bureaucrats, so many lives, houses, families, dependant on the lies.
Who wants to accept that grandpa was a war criminal instead of a war hero?
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Bart Sibrel was recently a guest on James Delingpole's podcast. Here is a video he made debunking the moon landing in 3 minutes. He said some weird personal things in the interview, but notably, the USSR beat America in EVERY aspect of space (first space launch, first satellite, first animal in space, first man in space, first woman in space, first spacewalk, etc.) but somehow America beat them on the FIRST try in going to the moon, which no one else has done, nor even attempted in my lifetime. And the computing power then was 1/1,000 the power of a modern cell phone.
But the main point he makes in this video is how shadows in a moon photo prove the landing was faked, as studio lighting was used.
and then there's the Buzz Aldrin video where he apparently can't lie to this little girl who asks him why we haven't gone back to the moon and he says "Because we didn’t go there, and that’s the way it happened and if it didn’t happen it’s nice to know why it didn’t happen.” Buzz Aldrin is 92. I wonder if there's a deathbed confession if we would even hear about it.
But the main point he makes in this video is how shadows in a moon photo prove the landing was faked, as studio lighting was used.
and then there's the Buzz Aldrin video where he apparently can't lie to this little girl who asks him why we haven't gone back to the moon and he says "Because we didn’t go there, and that’s the way it happened and if it didn’t happen it’s nice to know why it didn’t happen.” Buzz Aldrin is 92. I wonder if there's a deathbed confession if we would even hear about it.
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Good you bring up Aldrin.
I just remember this video where he explains his life story for Alcoholics Anonymous.
From minute 28 he speaks about the "Apollo mission". It's very weird how he speaks over it.
It was a beautiful experience is all he says about it. And that afterwards his alcoholism grew. He is very descriptive about his life wife kids childhood. But the Apollo mission is just a beautiful experience. No small facts. Like a smell. Fear. Anger. Colours.
On the world trip after the landing his alcoholism grew and he was on anti-depressants he says.
Curious which handler drugged him to shut up. It's hard to live with such big lies for good willing people.
Very interesting with the knowledge the moon landing is fake to hear his story. He kind of skips over any fact.
I've been on the fence for years on this question. This link is quite interesting, as is the following info about Artemis from mythology.
welovetrump.com
The use of fallen angels in every part of their programs is also very interesting to consider
Artemis is s "Strong Independant WomanTM"
Artemis herself was a virgin goddess, in many ways more mannish than effeminate. She was known to roam the mountains and forests in search of game. In art, Artemis was often shown wearing a short hunter’s tunic and carrying a bow or spear. Her entourage was made up of nymphs and wild animals.
Artemis’ symbols included her weapons and hunting gear https://bnonn.com/why-a-woman-bearing-the-sword-is-an-abomination-to-the-lord/
(the bow and arrow or the spear); her sacred animals, such as deer, boar, and bears; and her sacred plants, such as the cypress and palm. In later art and literature, Artemis came to be associated with the moon (complementing her brother Apollo, associated with the sun).
The common representation of Artemis is as a young, beautiful virgin, clad for the hunt. There is one important local variation, however. At Ephesus (a Greek city on the coast of modern Turkey), Artemis was identified with a fertility goddess called either the “Lady of Ephesus” or the “Artemis of Ephesus.” The cult statues of this Artemis were very different from those of the more familiar Artemis, showing the goddess decked out in elaborate jewelry, headdress, and—most striking of all—with small ovals covering her upper body. These ovals seem to have symbolized fertility; they have been variously interpreted as breasts, eggs, or scrotal sacs.
Among Artemis’ most important epithets were agrotera (“she of the hunt”), keladeinē (“strong-voiced”), and parthenos (“virgin”). Like her brother Apollo, Artemis also boasted many epithets relating to archery. These included hekatēbolos and hekatē (“far-shooter”), hekaergē (“far-worker”), and iocheaira (“she of the showering arrows”). Artemis also had many epithets related to her ritual functions or places of worship, such as Delia (“Delian,” referring to the island where she and Apollo were born), sōteira (“savior”), phōsphoros (“bringer of light”), and eileithyia (in her capacity as a goddess of childbirth).
The third-century BCE poet Callimachus gives an idyllic account of Artemis’ childhood in his third Hymn. According to this poem, the young Artemis sat on the knees of her mighty father, Zeus, and boldly demanded that he grant all her requests, including that she be allowed to remain a virgin and a huntress:
Callimachus’ poem also relates how Artemis acquired her silver bow and arrows from the smith god Hephaestus and his workers, the Cyclopes; how Pan awarded her thirteen hounds (seven female, six male) to accompany her on the hunt; how she captured six golden-antlered deer to pull her chariot; and how she became an expert archer, progressing from shooting at stationary targets to wild game.[13]
This, then, was how Artemis spent her productive childhood and youth. When she ascended to Olympus to take her place among the Twelve Olympians, she sat on a throne beside her twin brother, Apollo.
NASA Caught (Again) Using Fake Photoshopped Images From Artemis Mission
Things just keep getting worse for NASA… I know we all love space. I loved space so much as a kid. I wanted to go there. Trending: Jen Psaki Gives Insight into How Little Joe Biden Does: “Biden Does Nothing at 9AM” I still love things like Star Trek, especially ST:TNG. But I also like...
welovetrump.com
The use of fallen angels in every part of their programs is also very interesting to consider
Artemis is s "Strong Independant WomanTM"
Artemis herself was a virgin goddess, in many ways more mannish than effeminate. She was known to roam the mountains and forests in search of game. In art, Artemis was often shown wearing a short hunter’s tunic and carrying a bow or spear. Her entourage was made up of nymphs and wild animals.
Artemis’ symbols included her weapons and hunting gear https://bnonn.com/why-a-woman-bearing-the-sword-is-an-abomination-to-the-lord/
(the bow and arrow or the spear); her sacred animals, such as deer, boar, and bears; and her sacred plants, such as the cypress and palm. In later art and literature, Artemis came to be associated with the moon (complementing her brother Apollo, associated with the sun).
The common representation of Artemis is as a young, beautiful virgin, clad for the hunt. There is one important local variation, however. At Ephesus (a Greek city on the coast of modern Turkey), Artemis was identified with a fertility goddess called either the “Lady of Ephesus” or the “Artemis of Ephesus.” The cult statues of this Artemis were very different from those of the more familiar Artemis, showing the goddess decked out in elaborate jewelry, headdress, and—most striking of all—with small ovals covering her upper body. These ovals seem to have symbolized fertility; they have been variously interpreted as breasts, eggs, or scrotal sacs.
Among Artemis’ most important epithets were agrotera (“she of the hunt”), keladeinē (“strong-voiced”), and parthenos (“virgin”). Like her brother Apollo, Artemis also boasted many epithets relating to archery. These included hekatēbolos and hekatē (“far-shooter”), hekaergē (“far-worker”), and iocheaira (“she of the showering arrows”). Artemis also had many epithets related to her ritual functions or places of worship, such as Delia (“Delian,” referring to the island where she and Apollo were born), sōteira (“savior”), phōsphoros (“bringer of light”), and eileithyia (in her capacity as a goddess of childbirth).
The third-century BCE poet Callimachus gives an idyllic account of Artemis’ childhood in his third Hymn. According to this poem, the young Artemis sat on the knees of her mighty father, Zeus, and boldly demanded that he grant all her requests, including that she be allowed to remain a virgin and a huntress:
Zeus, of course, agreed immediately to the requests of his darling daughter.
Callimachus’ poem also relates how Artemis acquired her silver bow and arrows from the smith god Hephaestus and his workers, the Cyclopes; how Pan awarded her thirteen hounds (seven female, six male) to accompany her on the hunt; how she captured six golden-antlered deer to pull her chariot; and how she became an expert archer, progressing from shooting at stationary targets to wild game.[13]
This, then, was how Artemis spent her productive childhood and youth. When she ascended to Olympus to take her place among the Twelve Olympians, she sat on a throne beside her twin brother, Apollo.
That article is based on a tweeted video from 'Flat Earth Zone', and before the first minute is out the presenter's first argument is that the picture must be fake because the Earth in the background is round, which according to him is "scientifically impossible". The whole article is a Trojan Horse for Flat Earth Theory, which is a banned topic on the forum. See rule 3:I've been on the fence for years on this question. This link is quite interesting, as is the following info about Artemis from mythology.
NASA Caught (Again) Using Fake Photoshopped Images From Artemis Mission
Things just keep getting worse for NASA… I know we all love space. I loved space so much as a kid. I wanted to go there. Trending: Jen Psaki Gives Insight into How Little Joe Biden Does: “Biden Does Nothing at 9AM” I still love things like Star Trek, especially ST:TNG. But I also like...
Oh crap you're right. I found the mythology around the missions and pagan influences, along with the feminist propaganda parallels in the mythology to be more interesting than the conspiracy theory link anyways, guess I'll await my upcoming suspension and hopefully not full ban, love this forum but I can't delete it now.
Stories are people.I've been on the fence for years on this question. This link is quite interesting, as is the following info about Artemis from mythology.
NASA Caught (Again) Using Fake Photoshopped Images From Artemis Mission
Things just keep getting worse for NASA… I know we all love space. I loved space so much as a kid. I wanted to go there. Trending: Jen Psaki Gives Insight into How Little Joe Biden Does: “Biden Does Nothing at 9AM” I still love things like Star Trek, especially ST:TNG. But I also like...
The use of fallen angels in every part of their programs is also very interesting to consider
Artemis is s "Strong Independant WomanTM"
Artemis herself was a virgin goddess, in many ways more mannish than effeminate. She was known to roam the mountains and forests in search of game. In art, Artemis was often shown wearing a short hunter’s tunic and carrying a bow or spear. Her entourage was made up of nymphs and wild animals.
Artemis’ symbols included her weapons and hunting gear https://bnonn.com/why-a-woman-bearing-the-sword-is-an-abomination-to-the-lord/
(the bow and arrow or the spear); her sacred animals, such as deer, boar, and bears; and her sacred plants, such as the cypress and palm. In later art and literature, Artemis came to be associated with the moon (complementing her brother Apollo, associated with the sun).
The common representation of Artemis is as a young, beautiful virgin, clad for the hunt. There is one important local variation, however. At Ephesus (a Greek city on the coast of modern Turkey), Artemis was identified with a fertility goddess called either the “Lady of Ephesus” or the “Artemis of Ephesus.” The cult statues of this Artemis were very different from those of the more familiar Artemis, showing the goddess decked out in elaborate jewelry, headdress, and—most striking of all—with small ovals covering her upper body. These ovals seem to have symbolized fertility; they have been variously interpreted as breasts, eggs, or scrotal sacs.
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Among Artemis’ most important epithets were agrotera (“she of the hunt”), keladeinē (“strong-voiced”), and parthenos (“virgin”). Like her brother Apollo, Artemis also boasted many epithets relating to archery. These included hekatēbolos and hekatē (“far-shooter”), hekaergē (“far-worker”), and iocheaira (“she of the showering arrows”). Artemis also had many epithets related to her ritual functions or places of worship, such as Delia (“Delian,” referring to the island where she and Apollo were born), sōteira (“savior”), phōsphoros (“bringer of light”), and eileithyia (in her capacity as a goddess of childbirth).
The third-century BCE poet Callimachus gives an idyllic account of Artemis’ childhood in his third Hymn. According to this poem, the young Artemis sat on the knees of her mighty father, Zeus, and boldly demanded that he grant all her requests, including that she be allowed to remain a virgin and a huntress:
Zeus, of course, agreed immediately to the requests of his darling daughter.
Callimachus’ poem also relates how Artemis acquired her silver bow and arrows from the smith god Hephaestus and his workers, the Cyclopes; how Pan awarded her thirteen hounds (seven female, six male) to accompany her on the hunt; how she captured six golden-antlered deer to pull her chariot; and how she became an expert archer, progressing from shooting at stationary targets to wild game.[13]
This, then, was how Artemis spent her productive childhood and youth. When she ascended to Olympus to take her place among the Twelve Olympians, she sat on a throne beside her twin brother, Apollo.
Archetypes are spirits.
The Greek gods as fallen angels.
In my opinion the rehashed story of Artemis is a demon perpetuating itself into the zeitgeist of Technology.
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Yeah, you are so right. Thank you for pointing it out to me, iron sharpens iron!
This can easily be interpreted as him meaning "Because we didn't go [back] there."
Not that I think freemason Buzz Aldrin is on the straight and level of course.
That's always the way I interpreted it. He seems to have the same speech patterns as a dementia patient I used to care for. He can't put his thoughts to words so it sounds like he's saying something else.
While it is a dumb flat earth website, if you fast forward to the video showcased in that post to the 3 min mark roughly, he shows how you can use photoshop to adjust exposure, which quickly identifies fake imagery added into a photo. I believe that is legit.
Good nuggets in that video. I agree with the "domination" part being associated with the Satanic. Many well-meaning Christians and Christian structures get subverted by this. Now the prevalent subversion is not explicit dominance but a virtue signaling that is wrapped around dominance in order to shroud it.
The spirits are clever remaining hidden to most people today. I'd be interested if this methodology has been used before.
Edit: Upon thinking about this I realized it is the demons nature to be hidden. They don't have physical bodies and are more akin to principles and agencies that most people today don't associate as persons. Maybe it's our fault as Christians for not calling it out more effectively in our time. The gods of technology are preeminent among our culture's mind.
And to bring it back to the moon landing I often have people bring that up when I'm debating a completely separate topic like evolution. Something like: how could I be critical when science has put us on the moon? It's all wrapped up together in peoples' minds.
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His answer clearly makes no sense, and I had to watch it several times to grasp his point. So yeah it could be he is trying to say something that his words aren't communicating. I feel sorry for the poor girl.
But his answer is basically we didn't go back because of money. I don't see that as a reasonable explanation.
Yes, the budget of NASA is lower than it was during the Apollo program, but the majority of that money was spent researching, creating, testing, and building the huge and expensive Saturn rockets that shoot things deep into space. That's the major stumbling block that prevents every country from having a space program: The rocket technology is very expensive and difficult. America and Russia only did it after capturing Nazi scientists who were really good at rockets.
They were able to develop both a space shuttle and space station with budgets around 1% of total government spending (versus 4% during Apollo), so I don't see money being a roadblock for merely repeating a trip to the moon. And the last trip to the moon was 1972, when the budget was <1.5% of spending. NASAs budget is about what we blew in Afghanistan in a month. If they wanted to do a moon trip, they could afford a moon trip.
Anyway, NASA is supposedly going back to the moon in 2 years with a fronthole, and it's not taking any massive expenditures to make that happen (not that there's a chance they will make that date).
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NASA Budget, Current Funding, History, and Economic Impact
The NASA budget is $25.2 billion, just 0.5% of the FY 2021 federal budget. Each dollar spent creates $8 of economic growth.
I guess the real question is with all the technology to do deepfakes and CGI and everything else, will this be faked, or will they actually try to do it for real, and how easy will we be able to test its legitimacy? Anyone involved with the 1969 moon "landing" is retired or dead, and anyone working at NASA today surely believes we went to the moon, so perhaps they will attempt it in earnest and prove to us all that it's impossible to get there without solving certain problems like the van Allen belt.