Did we land on the moon?

Do you believe that we landed on the moon?

  • Yes

    Votes: 81 51.6%
  • No

    Votes: 50 31.8%
  • Don't know / not sure

    Votes: 26 16.6%

  • Total voters
    157
  • Poll closed .

Raskolnikov

Woodpecker
Orthodox

“I hold that space cannot be curved, for the simple reason that it can have no properties. It might as well be said that God has properties. He has not, but only attributes and these are of our own making. Of properties we can only speak when dealing with matter filling the space. To say that in the presence of large bodies space becomes curved is equivalent to stating that something can act upon nothing. I, for one, refuse to subscribe to such a view.”​

―Nikola Tesla​

Another good argument is this:​

Space is akin to a shadow. Space is the absence of matter, like a shadow is the absence of light. "Space" is not a thing. It is not a fundamental entity. All talk about "bending" and "curving" space is high-IQ mathematicians' poppycock in the category of "sounds awesome, but you are too stupid to comprehend how it works".​

It would probably make sense to create another thread on the question of general and special relativity. I only recently started reading Einstein's papers and some criticisms of it, and it seems to me like a kind of crazy rebranding of the Doppler effect.

People frequently make the argument that relativity has been proven in experiments, but I think precisely the relativity part is what can't be proven. As with philosophy, introducing relativism doesn't really do anything to a conversation but destroying its context. Relativity is a nonsense postulation, as Tesla and Charles Steinmetz (and many others back then) pointed out. Relativity just destroys the notion of absolute movement, something that would be patently absurd for any scientific investigation a normal person on earth would come up with.
It's a strikingly talmudic feat to suddenly destroy all thus far reasonable assumptions about space and movement simply by introducing a "maybe there are no fixed points and movement isn't real" dialectic. It's very similar to what they did with dialectics in political dialogue, where no ideological debate ever goes anywhere because there is no fixed philosophical standard for ethics.

I am by no means an expert and I don't view myself as mathematically minded, but looking at it from the outside it seems like a hoax. It just has too many parallels with hoaxes these people introduced in other aspects of society. Also the fact that Einstein's Nobel prize was pretty much forced in with the crowbar and after that Jews just started taking over universities with whacky theories that no one can understand or explain.
 

paternos

Kingfisher
Catholic
It would probably make sense to create another thread on the question of general and special relativity. I only recently started reading Einstein's papers and some criticisms of it, and it seems to me like a kind of crazy rebranding of the Doppler effect.

People frequently make the argument that relativity has been proven in experiments, but I think precisely the relativity part is what can't be proven. As with philosophy, introducing relativism doesn't really do anything to a conversation but destroying its context. Relativity is a nonsense postulation, as Tesla and Charles Steinmetz (and many others back then) pointed out. Relativity just destroys the notion of absolute movement, something that would be patently absurd for any scientific investigation a normal person on earth would come up with.
It's a strikingly talmudic feat to suddenly destroy all thus far reasonable assumptions about space and movement simply by introducing a "maybe there are no fixed points and movement isn't real" dialectic. It's very similar to what they did with dialectics in political dialogue, where no ideological debate ever goes anywhere because there is no fixed philosophical standard for ethics.

I am by no means an expert and I don't view myself as mathematically minded, but looking at it from the outside it seems like a hoax. It just has too many parallels with hoaxes these people introduced in other aspects of society. Also the fact that Einstein's Nobel prize was pretty much forced in with the crowbar and after that Jews just started taking over universities with whacky theories that no one can understand or explain.
This.

Well said, I think you put the finger on the sore spot here.

I was yesterday speaking to a lawyer friend of mine who is a Christian. He said I can always argue every case, always. Every side. I can make it look as if it is the logical thing in the world. That the other side is complete nonsense. Logically flawed.

Any lawyer will tell you this. You can argue any direction. But that doesn't mean it's Truth.

Debating is a great example of this. The pretense is, it's bring up all arguments, the reality is both become agents of their falsehood. It's just words. Logical structures. It's fake.

It's not the the truth lies in the middle as they always say. NO. Truth is truth. Christ is the living truth. And there is closer and further away.

We need to discern what is truth we need to do it together

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That's why I think politics is fake. It's a fake conflict. As if truth is the middle of anti-BLM and BLM. It denies the Christ. And hence centrist is just a weird point just as far from the truth. As the other 2 options.

The relativity theory is typical Jewish quackery. Everyone repeats it like parrots, ooh Einstein is so smart, but who gets it, what does he say? What is this? What is actually at hand? Why is this relevant for the civilian? How does this improve his life? Why does he need to honor a "scientist"? Let's zoom out.

It's a replacement of Christ. Einstein needs to symbolize the pinnacle of human enlightenment. He is soooo smart that nobody gets it. If we just follow these scientists heaven on earth will be there for us. With unlimited energy and fuel and warmth.

That we put faith in wormholes as the big unknown.

The more I learn the more visible it gets.

If you control the frame (of left right and middle), deny Christ, the people never find truth and freedom in it, and this hiding of the truth leads to all the mental problems we see today. Blue haired girls with tattoos are automutilation, it's acts that kids do that are in severe mental distress.

Anyhow the Nobel prize is a Jewish political prize that is used a lot in propaganda. I mean why would and should we care what some elites say what is good. It's similar to the oscars, same weird spectacle giving each other prizes for how good they find eachother.

I think I'm so passionate about it because it took me so long to get out of it. And all these works of fiction lead us from the real truth.
 
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paternos

Kingfisher
Catholic
Look at this goy, this new asteroid is worth 70.000 times the global economy! 70.000 times!
Imagine how rich we all could be, we would all be billionaires if we can get it to earth. We need to build space ships to get there and get soo rich. In October we will go there. How thrilling!


This is how it looks in 3d: https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/asteroids-comets-and-meteors/asteroids/16-psyche/in-depth/
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And we will go there with this:

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And fly 250 milliion miles to arrive.

How accurate!
 
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Max Roscoe

Hummingbird
Orthodox Inquirer
I think it's an excellent podcast. They are asking the right questions.

Let me tell you what IS stupid: believing the official narrative. The last 3 years has proven to all of us that the "Science"/Scientism is politics, and that includes the space textbooks you read in school.
I don't always take things literally (ie when an atheist talks about "the universe" I mentally substitute the word "God"--they are synonymous to me). If you don't things absolutely literally then you can be much more open minded and consider things that the SCIENCE! mind rejects out of hand.

I found the podcast very good, but if you didn't care for it, I'd still recommend checking out the twitter accounts of those guys.
And the guest host has his own podcast called World War Now (Examining the ongoing third world war through the lens of Orthodox Christianity and prophesy) and I enjoyed that as well.

If you don't have time to collect tons of twitter accounts, they follow a bunch of good ones, including Father Spyridon, Orthodox Canonist, Russians With Attitude, GlobalOrthodox, Jay Dyer, etc. and reposts them.


 
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Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
I think it's an excellent podcast. They are asking the right questions.

Let me tell you what IS stupid: believing the official narrative. The last 3 years has proven to all of us that the "Science"/Scientism is politics, and that includes the space textbooks you read in school.
We accept the reality of the world with which we are presented. Those who truly yearn for truth will pierce through all cognitive dissonance that comes up on the journey. Whether it's corona, male and female dynamics, God, the shape of the earth, the JFK assassination, NASA: if you truly yearn to know the truth about all these things, you'll just click through with an open mind and will understand that literally everything you've ever learned is a lie. Purposefully designed, so that you'd not understand why you are here, and wither away in tragedy and nihilism. The goal of the system is to neutralize you, lull you into sleep and distraction, without you even understanding what's happening, while at the same time frantically laughing at any truth that's being presented to you, while you're defending ideas you don't even understand, nor where they came from and why they were purposefully fed to you. This is the frantic laugh of desperation and insecurity, for anyone who has bought in fully with the modernist Zeitgeist feels from the inside that it's wrong, that it's unstable, that it's sand and no solid foundation that he or she is standing on. But those who want to know, they will click through. And through. And through. And through. Until they've understood it all. For the rest, your impact on those caught up in the TikTok reels, changing news and fast paced society and careerism will be very small, and they'll most likely attack you when you present them with different, opposing insights. You can bring a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Don't deny the truth, but don't force it on others either: give them Logos spermatikos, seeds of truths, that may sprout in their heart, soul and mind later along the way when they're ready to be unplugged and see reality as it is. As we all know that's a great barrier though, so we should have empathy, longsuffering and patience.

 

paternos

Kingfisher
Catholic
While we always look on the moon landing, the USSR landed on Venus, 5 times. The Venera missions.

Some good boy explaining all as if true:


41 million kilometers.

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They were even able to send a photo back over 41 million kilometers.


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The same nonsense as the US, the same propaganda lines, the same burden on society to increase the army and power.

We can't even build a self driving car today to drive 100 miles safely. But in 1960s we could fly 41 million kilometers and send a photo back. What a joke.

I just don't get how people could be fooled by this. Well I get it. Billions were injected for the "killer virus". But still. It's something.

The empires of lies.
 
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