Discussion on the necessity of the Atomic Bombs(And general Strategic Bombing) on Hiroshima and Nagasaki

C-Note

Hummingbird
Other Christian
Gold Member
I'm a bit busy this afternoon, but I will come back to support my assertions below with solid evidence.

-The nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was unnecessary, the Japs were already about to surrender unconditionally, and this according to US military and government high officials (will provide sources).

-FDR knew about Pearl Harbor in advance, let it happen in order to push the US into WW2. This was also well established by independent research with good sources.
Japan was not about to surrender before the bombs were dropped. Even the Japanese don't claim that this happened. A few minor officials in the Japanese government had sent out some peace feelers, but they didn't have much, if any, influence on the government as a whole.

FDR was aware that the Japanese were preparing to start a war, but he wasn't aware of the planned Japanese strike on Pearl Harbor. He and his advisors thought it more likely that Japan would stage a surprise attack on the Philippines, not Hawaii.
 

infowarrior1

Crow
Protestant
Japan was not about to surrender before the bombs were dropped. Even the Japanese don't claim that this happened. A few minor officials in the Japanese government had sent out some peace feelers, but they didn't have much, if any, influence on the government as a whole.

FDR was aware that the Japanese were preparing to start a war, but he wasn't aware of the planned Japanese strike on Pearl Harbor. He and his advisors thought it more likely that Japan would stage a surprise attack on the Philippines, not Hawaii.

If only there was a way to deal with those Military Officials who are intent on fighting in spite of the Atomic Bombs. Its only the Emperor who was the tie breaker that changed things.

If only there was a way to make this more targeted.
 

IMMImedia

 
Banned
https://www.dancarlin.com/hardcore-history-series/ highly recommend Dan Carlin's "Supernova in the East" series on the subject, in the last episode he goes into detail on the atom bomb. You can sum up his position that dropping the Bomb was "Logical Insanity"
No insanity at all. I see it as pride, hatred and revenge. And show of strength as a future warning to USSR. If it had not been used in real life, the threat of it would not be credible. Americans hated the japanese for Pearl Harbour, so the total destruction and terror of the dropped nukes was political tactic to play on the citizens emotions I think. Otherwise it was just pure cruelty by the US president. None of the presidents at that time was illogical. Logic said that Japan was defeated and would surrender. They really wanted to use it, and if they had let Japan surrender, they would not be able to test it. Could not use it on Germany with allied neigbours. Did not want a war with USSR. And perhaps a secret threat to USSR telling them to stop moving into Germany, hidden dimplomacy that we are unawere of. After all, they had a race to Berlin to steal tech and scientists. Which ended up as the race to get to the moon, and conquer space.I just assume the president at the time was awere and had planned out everything that happened 10 years after he stepped down. Hard to believe that stateleaders with supposed high IQs, should act out so much incompetence, especially in war. I do not believe in mishaps, when you have been at war for 75 years. Then you have mastered it, and every operation is done perfect, with intent..
 

911

Peacock
Catholic
Gold Member
That's the official version that has been recirculated ad nauseum, in truth you don't have to dig very deep to find the testimony of high level American military commanders and foreign policy analysts involved in that process in 1945 who have unequivocally stated that Japan was ready for an unconditional surrender well before Hiroshima:

Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz, Commander in Chief of the Pacific Fleet stated in a public address given at the Washington Monument on October 5, 1945:

"The Japanese had, in fact, already sued for peace before the atomic age was announced to the world with the destruction of Hiroshima and before the Russian entry into the war. (See p. 329, Chapter 26) . . . [Nimitz also stated: "The atomic bomb played no decisive part, from a purely military standpoint, in the defeat of Japan. . . ."]

In a private 1946 letter to Walter Michels of the Association of Philadelphia Scientists, Nimitz observed that "the decision to employ the atomic bomb on Japanese cities was made on a level higher than that of the Joint Chiefs of Staff." (See pp. 330-331, Chapter 26)

In his memoirs Admiral William D. Leahy, the President's Chief of Staff--and the top official who presided over meetings of both the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Combined U.S.-U.K. Chiefs of Staff--minced few words:

"The use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender. . . ."

Admiral William F. Halsey, Jr., Commander U.S. Third Fleet, stated publicly in 1946:

The first atomic bomb was an unnecessary experiment. . . . It was a mistake to ever drop it. . . . [the scientists] had this toy and they wanted to try it out, so they dropped it. . . . It killed a lot of Japs, but the Japs had put out a lot of peace feelers through Russia long before. (See p. 331, Chapter 26)


Halsey is right, for one thing, the Nagasaki bombing was about the live testing of a type of nuclear bomb design than was different from the Hiroshima "Little Boy" uranium. Nagasaki was a plutonium-based "Fat Man" design. You can debate whether Hiroshima was necessary, but not Nagasaki, it was the most egregious case of overkill, figuratively and literally.


Most historians that dominate academia and the publishing industry are shills, you don't have to dig very deep to discover the truth on important historical facts and events, provided that you have the capacity to look past common propaganda.
 

911

Peacock
Catholic
Gold Member
Another important aspect here which I have alluded to earlier - there were large native Christian populations in Hiroshima and especially Nagasaki, where St Francis Xavier landed in the 16th century. The largest church in Asia was in Nagasaki. Hiroshima also had a large church, which was used as the target by the crew of the Enola Gay. The reason it wasn't completely flattened is that it was right below the explosion, sort of like how the eye of the hurricane is a quieter zone. The choice of these two cities as targets for nuclear annihilation was probably not a random one, Morgenthau might have been involved.

https://consortiumnews.com/2015/08/09/christianity-and-the-nagasaki-crime/

https://richmondunlimited.wordpress...ian-cities-in-japan-bombed-with-atomic-bombs/
 

dicknixon72

Pelican
Halsey is right, for one thing, the Nagasaki bombing was about the live testing of a type of nuclear bomb design than was different from the Hiroshima "Little Boy" uranium. Nagasaki was a plutonium-based "Fat Man" design. You can debate whether Hiroshima was necessary, but not Nagasaki, it was the most egregious case of overkill, figuratively and literally.

Halsey was also point-on about (((them))) wanting to try their toy. This was a live-subject experiment to test the effectiveness of two types of atomic weapons.

Fact is waning resources in terms of men and material made many in the Imperial Japanese Army and Navy open to ending the conflict both before and after the atomic bombings. The atom bombs also didn't even grant us an unconditional surrender, which is another embellishment meant to justify the bombings. We allowed the Japanese to retain their Imperial dynasty and Hirohito was cast as slight, diminutive figurehead to the West even though he was extraordinarily complicit in the war from beginning to end and certainly involved in questionable Japanese action during the course of the war.

Side note - I find it interesting that little is ever mentioned about the numerous Japanese plans for attacking the US mainland, both for strategic and later punitive reasons. Some know of the high-altitude balloon bombs that made it as far east as the Great Lakes and are aware of their incendiary cargo. Many do not know that the Japanese had thought of using these to release swarms of infected fleas carrying plague, cholera, smallpox, anthrax, etc. as bioweapons against the United States as they had validated their usage with extensive testing in Japanese-held Manchukuo (China) and the plan came very close to execution with the very, very late-war introduction of the super long-range I-400 aircraft carrier submarines and their Aichi Seiran bombers.
 

infowarrior1

Crow
Protestant
Halsey was also point-on about (((them))) wanting to try their toy. This was a live-subject experiment to test the effectiveness of two types of atomic weapons.

Fact is waning resources in terms of men and material made many in the Imperial Japanese Army and Navy open to ending the conflict both before and after the atomic bombings. The atom bombs also didn't even grant us an unconditional surrender, which is another embellishment meant to justify the bombings. We allowed the Japanese to retain their Imperial dynasty and Hirohito was cast as slight, diminutive figurehead to the West even though he was extraordinarily complicit in the war from beginning to end and certainly involved in questionable Japanese action during the course of the war.

Side note - I find it interesting that little is ever mentioned about the numerous Japanese plans for attacking the US mainland, both for strategic and later punitive reasons. Some know of the high-altitude balloon bombs that made it as far east as the Great Lakes and are aware of their incendiary cargo. Many do not know that the Japanese had thought of using these to release swarms of infected fleas carrying plague, cholera, smallpox, anthrax, etc. as bioweapons against the United States as they had validated their usage with extensive testing in Japanese-held Manchukuo (China) and the plan came very close to execution with the very, very late-war introduction of the super long-range I-400 aircraft carrier submarines and their Aichi Seiran bombers.

The Emperor was complicit. Although the Militarists in Government weren't deterred themselves by the Nuclear Bombs.

Its his decision however that was able to overrule the militarists.

Goes to show knowing the internal workings of enemy government will open up more targeted solutions with less collateral damage.
 

paternos

Robin
Catholic
I was just reading about this topic...a great book called The Secret History of the Atomic Bomb: Why Hiroshima Was Destroyed (book attached)

"Despite the fact that the Manhattan Project was the most closely guarded secret of World War II, one man, and one many only, was allowed to observe everything and to know everything about the project. He was Lipman Siew, a Lithuanian Jew who had come to the United States as a political refugee at the age of seventeen. He lived in Boston on Lawrence St., and decided to take the name of William L. Laurence. At Harvard, he became a close friend of James B. Conant and was tutored by him. When Laurence went to New York, he was hired by Herbert Bayard Swope, editor of the New York World, who was known as Bernard Baruch's personal publicity agent. Baruch owned the World. In 1930, Laurence accepted an offer from the New York Times to become its science editor. He states in Who's Who that he "was selected by the heads of the atomic bomb project as sole writer and public relations." How one could be a public relations writer for a top secret project was not explained. Laurence was the only civilian present at the historic explosion of the test bomb on July 16, 1945. Less than a month later, he sat in the copilots seat of the B-29 on the fateful Nagasaki bombing run."

So a jewish public relations writer and associate of Bernard Baruch (a well known affiliate of the Rothschild family) actually sat in the co-pilot seat for one of the bombings.

As Brother Nathaniel once said, "it's a secret club and you're not invited to the Bar Mitzvah."
The atomic bomb is one of the topics where I spent far too much time on investigating.
I have been to Hiroshima and Chernobyl to see the situation there myself.

I'll "drop" it here directly: I have come to the conclusion the atomic bomb doesn't exist.

It has never been transparant but so much info is available, Lipman Siew is a propaganda writer, he is a marketing man. And the only one who has seen it... Yeah right..

So why?
Part of warfare is propaganda. Making the enemy belief you have an all powerful weapon will give you a better position.

What happened in Hiroshima?
Firebombs, check the bombings of Rotterdam and London and you will the same exact damage profile. All gone but steel structures.
In Hiroshima no higher levels or radiation are measured than in any normal city.

Why the political submission by the Japanese?
Japan was isolated. Without surrender this would have let to starvation of the population. The ruler Hirohito had an honorful way out of war by stating the enormous power of the bomb and not loosing face to his population. Don't forget he was an ally of Adolf Hitler and hasn't been prosecuted for war crimes.

So what's the cold war?
Nonsense, this is an imaginary war which benefitted both the Soviet Union and America. With the fantasy of a nuclear bomb both countries were able to invest strongly in the army with taxpayers money. By doing this the Soviet Union and America became the 2 ruling powers dominating post WW2 global politics.

And how does atomic energy work?
Atomic energy in a controlled setting can create amazing heat. This is how a nuclear reactor functions. Heat is generated, water is boiled, steam converted in electricity. A nuclear reactor is a very big steam engine. Nuclear energy doesn't explode.

And Chernobyl?
There was no explosion. What happened is that the water boiled so fast that the cement lid blew off the reactor destroying the building of reactor 4. 200 meter further was an identical reactor: reactor 3. Which kept functioning until 2000. (14 years after 1986) Many people lived in the region with no health damage.

So what do we see at play here?
Politics. Soviet Union and the US built armies on the tax payers which gave them global rule. Both benefitted.

So aren't the US and Russia enemies?
No. In propaganda yes, but in reality no, an alliance has been made in WW2 which has been kept for all years after. There is a lot of threatening, which is also beneficial for the population control. A constant state of fear.

So how about nuclear weapons today?
Still it is used as a pressuring propaganda tool. Nowadays we see the bomb appearing in the news that North Korea and Iran make a bomb. This creates fear in the western population. And with that fear the US government can isolate Iran and North Korea and leave them politically powerless. The bomb is a foundational fantasy of the globalist world government.
Are atomic bombs the only propaganda tool?
No, I think we should see the bomb in the same lights as AIDS, climate change or Covid. They serve the same political goals. They are instruments of political power and population control.

The christian position?
I belief the lies are the work of the devil. Those high priests in power are creating false gods to benefit themselves. It's very anti-christian. The bomb has become god post-ww2, just as climate change and covid are pushed as gods today.

Who are pushing this?
The Jewish high priests are the fathers of the bomb. The intellectual father of the bomb was Leo Szilard, a Hungarian-Jewish refugee. Rudolf Peierls designed the first theoretical mechanism for the detonation of an atomic bomb in 1940. Peierls was a Jewish refugee from Germany who worked on the Manhattan Project under its team director, J. Robert Oppenheimer, who was a Jew born in New York. And then the Jew Lipman Siew as the PR man.

It's one of the big lies of our times.

Set yourself free and have faith in Jesus Christ our savior. It's all the same as 2000 years ago. Still we have jews building false temples for false gods taking the wealth from the people.

As this is a topic that is very close to my heart, feel free to send me a message if you are an investigator as well.
 
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Helmsman

Robin
Protestant
That's the official version that has been recirculated ad nauseum, in truth you don't have to dig very deep to find the testimony of high level American military commanders and foreign policy analysts involved in that process in 1945 who have unequivocally stated that Japan was ready for an unconditional surrender well before Hiroshima:








Halsey is right, for one thing, the Nagasaki bombing was about the live testing of a type of nuclear bomb design than was different from the Hiroshima "Little Boy" uranium. Nagasaki was a plutonium-based "Fat Man" design. You can debate whether Hiroshima was necessary, but not Nagasaki, it was the most egregious case of overkill, figuratively and literally.


Most historians that dominate academia and the publishing industry are shills, you don't have to dig very deep to discover the truth on important historical facts and events, provided that you have the capacity to look past common propaganda.
Of all the services the Navy was the most opposed to the use of the Atomic bomb. Had Fat Man and Little Boy not been used Japan would have been brought to her knees by the submarine blockade, extensive mining of shipping channels, and surface action groups bombarding shore targets. This however would take time. The invasion of Japan was slated for 1946. Public opinion was turning against the war, production was already being returned to civilian products and some troops were discharged. The invasion would have been unacceptable in terms of casulaties, regardless if it was 100k or 1 million (KIA, WIA, and missing). The Navy, even facing the threat of extensive kamikaze attacks when near the Japanese home islands had the least skin in the game. New AA guns like the 3"/50 Mk 22 and fighters like the F8F Bearcat would go a long way in mitigating that threat. They also never faced fanatical Japanese resistance on the ground. See EB Sledges' (a marine) reaction to the bombing in "With The Old Breed" or read Paul Fussel's (an army rifleman) essay on using the bomb. Those two begin to scratch the surface of the reaction of the average American ground pounder who would have had to go ashore and finish the job.

I get the need to question the narrative and possibly find ulterior motives but the use of the bomb was absolutely justified. And for icing on the cake, if they hadn't used it on civilian targets they would have been deployed tactically as a part of the pre-landing bombardment. Radiation casualties were not factored into the invasion due to its effects being unknown.
 
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Helmsman

Robin
Protestant
What happened in Hiroshima?
Firebombs, check the bombings of Rotterdam and London and you will the same exact damage profile. All gone but steel structures.
In Hiroshima no higher levels or radiation are measured than in any normal city.
There were 3 bombers over Nagasaki and Hiroshima each. It takes a bomber stream of hundreds to firebomb a city and create that level of destruction. Rotterdam was never firebombed, there was an accidental bombing during the German invasion which created a small fire compared to the power of a true firestorm. London was never firebombed. The Blitz was conventional explosives, not incindiaries. The Germans never fielded a true strategic bomber so due to the limitations of their tactical bombers were not able to carry the needed ordnance weight to England to firebomb a city.
Why the political submission by the Japanese?
Japan was isolated. Without surrender this would have let to starvation of the population. The ruler Hirohito had an honorful way out of war by stating the enormous power of the bomb and not loosing face to his population. Don't forget he was an ally of Adolf Hitler and hasn't been prosecuted for war crimes.
He wasn't prosecuted for political reasons. He was made a figurehead with no power.
So what's the cold war?
Nonsense, this is an imaginary war which benefitted both the Soviet Union and America. With the fantasy of a nuclear bomb both countries were able to invest strongly in the army with taxpayers money. By doing this the Soviet Union and America became the 2 ruling powers dominating post WW2 global politics.
No argument.
And how does atomic energy work?
Atomic energy in a controlled setting can create amazing heat. This is how a nuclear reactor functions. Heat is generated, water is boiled, steam converted in electricity. A nuclear reactor is a very big steam engine. Nuclear energy doesn't explode.
Nuclear energy "explodes" when the reaction is uncontrolled. Like in a nuclear bomb. A reactor has an absolutely insane control system to prevent this from happening. Just because the Jewish scientists played a major role in developing the bomb does not mean it doesn't exist. Physics is physics, a manner of explaining God's created order. And splitting atoms is a part of that.
So aren't the US and Russia enemies?
No. In propaganda yes, but in reality no, an alliance has been made in WW2 which has been kept for all years after. There is a lot of threatening, which is also beneficial for the population control. A constant state of fear.
Rubbish. We were allies of convenience. Khrushchev was not joking when he said "we will bury you". See the new book "Stalin's War" for a really good insight on how Stalin played both sides in WWII.
 

Aleksandar

 
Banned
Other Christian
The atomic bomb is one of the topics where I spent far too much time on investigating.
I have been to Hiroshima and Chernobyl to see the situation there myself.

I'll "drop" it here directly: I have come to the conclusion the atomic bomb doesn't exist.

It has never been transparant but so much info is available, Lipman Siew is a propaganda writer, he is a marketing man. And the only one who has seen it... Yeah right..

So why?
Part of warfare is propaganda. Making the enemy belief you have an all powerful weapon will give you a better position.

What happened in Hiroshima?
Firebombs, check the bombings of Rotterdam and London and you will the same exact damage profile. All gone but steel structures.
In Hiroshima no higher levels or radiation are measured than in any normal city.

Why the political submission by the Japanese?
Japan was isolated. Without surrender this would have let to starvation of the population. The ruler Hirohito had an honorful way out of war by stating the enormous power of the bomb and not loosing face to his population. Don't forget he was an ally of Adolf Hitler and hasn't been prosecuted for war crimes.

So what's the cold war?
Nonsense, this is an imaginary war which benefitted both the Soviet Union and America. With the fantasy of a nuclear bomb both countries were able to invest strongly in the army with taxpayers money. By doing this the Soviet Union and America became the 2 ruling powers dominating post WW2 global politics.

And how does atomic energy work?
Atomic energy in a controlled setting can create amazing heat. This is how a nuclear reactor functions. Heat is generated, water is boiled, steam converted in electricity. A nuclear reactor is a very big steam engine. Nuclear energy doesn't explode.

And Chernobyl?
There was no explosion. What happened is that the water boiled so fast that the cement lid blew off the reactor destroying the building of reactor 4. 200 meter further was an identical reactor: reactor 3. Which kept functioning until 2000. (14 years after 1986) Many people lived in the region with no health damage.

So what do we see at play here?
Politics. Soviet Union and the US built armies on the tax payers which gave them global rule. Both benefitted.

So aren't the US and Russia enemies?
No. In propaganda yes, but in reality no, an alliance has been made in WW2 which has been kept for all years after. There is a lot of threatening, which is also beneficial for the population control. A constant state of fear.

So how about nuclear weapons today?
Still it is used as a pressuring propaganda tool. Nowadays we see the bomb appearing in the news that North Korea and Iran make a bomb. This creates fear in the western population. And with that fear the US government can isolate Iran and North Korea and leave them politically powerless. The bomb is a foundational fantasy of the globalist world government.
Are atomic bombs the only propaganda tool?
No, I think we should see the bomb in the same lights as AIDS, climate change or Covid. They serve the same political goals. They are instruments of political power and population control.

The christian position?
I belief the lies are the work of the devil. Those high priests in power are creating false gods to benefit themselves. It's very anti-christian. The bomb has become god post-ww2, just as climate change and covid are pushed as gods today.

Who are pushing this?
The Jewish high priests are the fathers of the bomb. The intellectual father of the bomb was Leo Szilard, a Hungarian-Jewish refugee. Rudolf Peierls designed the first theoretical mechanism for the detonation of an atomic bomb in 1940. Peierls was a Jewish refugee from Germany who worked on the Manhattan Project under its team director, J. Robert Oppenheimer, who was a Jew born in New York. And then the Jew Lipman Siew as the PR man.

It's one of the big lies of our times.

Set yourself free and have faith in Jesus Christ our savior. It's all the same as 2000 years ago. Still we have jews building false temples for false gods taking the wealth from the people.

As this is a topic that is very close to my heart, feel free to send me a message if you are an investigator as well.
I know we're all on the same side here, but this is complete insanity. Please do better research on Chernobyl, and especially the damage caused to Belarus.
 

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
Logic said that Japan was defeated and would surrender.

I'm not aware that this is true. Western people in the 21st century think it would have made sense to surrender under the circumstances, with the benefit of hindsight.

Hindsight is notoriously difficult to obtain in the moment. I would say that the people holding power did not realize that it would make sense to surrender, and were planning to make Okinawa look like a cakewalk. They really were planning this, and put all their chips into this strategy. There's no evidence otherwise. You have to project modernist thinking onto the situation to think otherwise.

Even after the first atomic bomb, these people were not instantly defeated. It's almost an accident of history that they didn't manage to hold on a little bit longer. I think a third or fourth atom bomb would have sufficiently undermined their position eventually, but they were not defeated after the first atom bomb. You can tell by the delay in surrendering under the certain knowledge that a second atom bomb was coming. It didn't take long for them to surrender once things finally went against them strongly enough.
 
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Helmsman

Robin
Protestant
I'm not aware that this is true. Western people in the 21st century thing it would have made sense to surrender under the circumstances, with the benefit of hindsight.

Hindsight is notoriously difficult to obtain in the moment. I would say that the people holding power did not realize that it would make sense to surrender, and were planning to make Okinawa look like a cakewalk. They really were planning this, and put all their chips into this strategy. There's no evidence otherwise. You have to project modernist thinking onto the situation to thing otherwise.

Even after the first atomic bomb, these people were not instantly defeated. It's almost an accident of history that they didn't manage to hold on a little bit longer. I think a third or fourth atom bomb would have sufficiently undermined their position eventually, but they were not defeated after the first atom bomb. You can tell by the delay in surrendering under the certain knowledge that a second atom bomb was coming. It didn't take long for them to surrender once things finally went against them strongly enough.

The devotion of the Japanese to the Bushido Code can be seen in the minuscule amount of prisoners taken in land battles from Tarawa to Okinawa. Most of the time prisoners were impressed Korean laborers. Even Japanese civilians committed suicide rather than be taken prisoner. See the Battle of Saipan. The same fanaticism drove them to deliberately fly aircraft into ships. And had the Home Islands been invaded plans were underway to use kamikazes against shore targets. The Japanese were tough and spiritually strong. Even at the close of the war there was still a portion of the officer corps who opposed surrendering to the point of attempting a coup. An IJN captain near Tokyo actually committed ritual suicide because he could not get his men to shoot down the transport carrying the first surrender delegation to Manila.
 

paternos

Robin
Catholic
What about the Hiroshima & Nagasaki survivors who were there during the atomic bombs? There are firsthand stories by Japanese survivors who were actually there at that time.
There are a handful of survivors constantly brought up sharing stories defying reality.

Akahiro Takahashi talks about the skin on the soles of his feet burning of while he walked away. HIs ears almost melting off.

Akiko Takakura was 300meter away from the bomb and survived
While reports claim that more than 100.000 died, she was in 300 meters and survived.

Decades after the bombing of Hiroshima, the image of a man whose charred fingertips had been engulfed in blue flames remained imprinted in Akiko Takakura’s memory.

There was black rain.

What we read here are holocaustian mystical fantasies. They should be seen in the realm of Elie Wiesel.

Charred fingertips in blue flames, skin peeling of the faces, ears melting off, black rain.

All without proof, without photographs, without radiation measurement, we just need to trust the elite.
I know we're all on the same side here, but this is complete insanity. Please do better research on Chernobyl, and especially the damage caused to Belarus.
Actually I have been there. And the damage done to Belarus is not done by the explosion but by the governments actions afterwards.
Evacuating the people, evacuating the area. (please share sources, measurement, proof, if I'm wrong I would love to learn it)

What is true
In both cases not denying the horrors of bombing civilians in Hiroshima and damage done by the explosion in Chernobyl. What we though see is a blatant exaggeration of the impact used for political goals.

Think about it, no one ever talks of the bombings of Tokyo, London or Rotterdam while they looked the same afterwards.

Left Tokyo, right Hiroshima.

Tokyo-and-Hiroshima-1945.jpg


Anyhow I know my conclusions are uncommon, but I'm just a common man searching for truth. And this is where I get to.

I haven't been there back then. And it might be different. But this seems most logical to me.
 

Helmsman

Robin
Protestant
There are a handful of survivors constantly brought up sharing stories defying reality.

Akahiro Takahashi talks about the skin on the soles of his feet burning of while he walked away. HIs ears almost melting off.

Akiko Takakura was 300meter away from the bomb and survived
While reports claim that more than 100.000 died, she was in 300 meters and survived.

Decades after the bombing of Hiroshima, the image of a man whose charred fingertips had been engulfed in blue flames remained imprinted in Akiko Takakura’s memory.

There was black rain.

What we read here are holocaustian mystical fantasies. They should be seen in the realm of Elie Wiesel.

Charred fingertips in blue flames, skin peeling of the faces, ears melting off, black rain.

All without proof, without photographs, without radiation measurement, we just need to trust the elite.

Actually I have been there. And the damage done to Belarus is not done by the explosion but by the governments actions afterwards.
Evacuating the people, evacuating the area. (please share sources, measurement, proof, if I'm wrong I would love to learn it)

What is true
In both cases not denying the horrors of bombing civilians in Hiroshima and damage done by the explosion in Chernobyl. What we though see is a blatant exaggeration of the impact used for political goals.

Think about it, no one ever talks of the bombings of Tokyo, London or Rotterdam while they looked the same afterwards.

Left Tokyo, right Hiroshima.

Tokyo-and-Hiroshima-1945.jpg


Anyhow I know my conclusions are uncommon, but I'm just a common man searching for truth. And this is where I get to.

I haven't been there back then. And it might be different. But this seems most logical to me.

Those damage patterns look completely different. Notice the buildings left standing in Hiroshima are brick with probably steel frames. Heavier construction which can better with stand over pressure generated by a nuclear weapon. In Tokyo everything is destroyed and consumed like after a wildfire. Two very different damage patterns.
 
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