Do you have low testosterone?

This guy is an ex-navy seal and now a physician.He talks a lot about improving performance by improving sleep.

This video/podcast is about how not sleeping 8-9 hours lowers your testosterone.

I eat really well, lift and do supplements so I had tried most options to increase my testosterone. Since I listened to this podcast I've been going to bed a 10 every night.

 
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Hi guys,

Don't wanna thread hijack but just got my blood work back and hoping someone can help me interpret the results.

Have tried using various conversion calculators on the net but still confused as fairly new to all this.

Context : Decided to get full blood work done on test, thyroid, kidney etc etc as a base line as I'm getting to the age where I shoukd keep an eye on these things.

Stats :

Age 39
Height 6'3
Weight 84kg
Bodd fat haven't measured but guessing around 15%, some visible definition but a belly that's hard to get rid of

Currently working out HIT style full body three times a week plus a couple of krav maga sessions.

Diet is reasonable, lowish carb and plenty of decent fats and protein.

Supplementing with vit d 2d 2000 iu per day plus around 50mg zinc.
Power stances a few times a day
Raw dog where possible :p

My test results:

Free testo (cal) 651 pmol/L

Testosterone 35.2 nmol/L

Now, when the do talked me thru this these results were bolded red as they were over current reference range, he actually warned me about hair loss....

I converted the free test online and it came out at 1015 ng/do which I think is pretty high?

I'm not sure what the 35.2 means?

I also read about something called SHBG that may effect this?

Anyone with expertise a heads up on the overall result would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
 

Merenguero

Crow
Gold Member
I recently had my testosterone levels checked. Total testosterone was 556 and I'm 37. The blood was drawn at 6:00 P.M., but I slept until about 1:00 P.M. on the day the blood was drawn and I ate a pretty big meal at about 2:00 P.M. on that day. I'm reading some conflicting things, but 556 appears to be about average for a guy in his 50's or 60's and a little low, although within the normal range, for a 37 year old. Because my level falls within the normal range, the doctor did not want to prescribe TRT, and that made sense to me. I would, however, like to to anything I possibly can to increase my levels. I have been doing hard cardio ever day since 2001 and have been lifting weights almost every day for a year and a half. I've also been getting as much sleep as I possibly can for the past year and a half. I take zinc, L-Argenine, and a testosterone booster (I know that there is some debate as to how effective testosterone boosters are), and just started eating Brazil nuts and almonds. I also eat a good amount of fish, chicken, and beef. I have a varicocele, which may reduce my levels somewhat. Does anyone have any thoughts?
 

rdvirus

Woodpecker
Curious if anyone who has low testosterone has experienced ANY sort of head trauma at any point prior to blood work. Apparently there is a strong correlation between the two.. can elaborate more but curious if anyone has experienced both head trauma and low T.
 

ThrustMaster

Woodpecker
Gold Member
rdvirus said:
Curious if anyone who has low testosterone has experienced ANY sort of head trauma at any point prior to blood work. Apparently there is a strong correlation between the two.. can elaborate more but curious if anyone has experienced both head trauma and low T.

The most likely correlation is that your Hypothalamus and Pituitary are located in yer noggin. HPTA is king.
 

Gas

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Just got tested. 556 ng/dl. Late 20's.

As far as I understand 600 is average and as a young man in his 20's you'd want to be closer to 800-1,000, putting my levels at LOW.

Definitely don't want TRT at this age - will be trying to change up diet and exercise to lift this level naturally. Anyone got experience to share?
 

CleanSlate

Hummingbird
Gold Member
I'm on TRT and have been for 2 months. My T was in the low 300s, and now my recent labs show it in the low 700's now. I take t-cyp 75 mg twice weekly along with HCG. HUGE difference. Prior to TRT, nothing worked - clean diet, exercise, supplements, nothing. Now I'm getting morning erections on a regular basis, and the "itch" is back.

Curious, anyone on peaktestosterone.com?
 
So last Friday I got blood work done to make sure my cholesterol levels are good. I also had the doctor add testosterone to the lab request. Blood specimen was collected at 4PM. I am 28 years old.

Here's my result:

Testosterone

Range: 168 - 780 ng/dL
Value: 320.80

Is that good? Bad?
 

Merenguero

Crow
Gold Member
TheWastelander said:
So last Friday I got blood work done to make sure my cholesterol levels are good. I also had the doctor add testosterone to the lab request. Blood specimen was collected at 4PM. I am 28 years old.

Here's my result:

Testosterone

Range: 168 - 780 ng/dL
Value: 320.80

Is that good? Bad?

It's real bad. I am lower than I should be for my age (37) and the range was still 241-827 back in November 2014. I think I have naturally increased my levels since then. Did the doctor talk to you about going on TRT?
 
Merenguero said:
TheWastelander said:
So last Friday I got blood work done to make sure my cholesterol levels are good. I also had the doctor add testosterone to the lab request. Blood specimen was collected at 4PM. I am 28 years old.

Here's my result:

Testosterone

Range: 168 - 780 ng/dL
Value: 320.80

Is that good? Bad?

It's real bad. I am lower than I should be for my age (37) and the range was still 241-827 back in November 2014. I think I have naturally increased my levels since then. Did the doctor talk to you about going on TRT?

He's my GP. He said the results were excellent, which turned out to be true for the cholesterol but I guess that's not the case for the testosterone.
 
I got my test results back. This test was done around 7AM last Friday. Since then I've eliminated drinking from plastic bottles, I'm getting better sleep, I'm eating almonds and have started the No Fap plan. I'm getting morning wood again. Here they are below:

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I'm not really sure why my lymphocyte counts are high, but it could've been from the TDAP booster I got a few days before this test. And what does it mean to have high free testosterone but average total testosterone?
 

Checkmat

Pelican
TheWastelander said:
I took Mike Cernovich's advice he wrote here: http://www.dangerandplay.com/2014/02/28/blood-work-trt-testosterone-level/ and ordered a male hormone panel through Private MD Labs last night. I took the requisition papers down to the lab this morning and got my blood drawn. When I get the results I'll let you guys know what's up.

How much did it cost you?

EDIT: Nvm, looks like it runs close to $200 :/
http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lab_tests.php?view=all&show=1033&category=14&partnerid=S61&search=#1033
 
Checkmat said:
TheWastelander said:
I took Mike Cernovich's advice he wrote here: http://www.dangerandplay.com/2014/02/28/blood-work-trt-testosterone-level/ and ordered a male hormone panel through Private MD Labs last night. I took the requisition papers down to the lab this morning and got my blood drawn. When I get the results I'll let you guys know what's up.

How much did it cost you?

EDIT: Nvm, looks like it runs close to $200 :/
http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lab_tests.php?view=all&show=1033&category=14&partnerid=S61&search=#1033

It was $150 with discount code HEALTHY12. You can get the female hormone panel one for $50 that will measure test and what not.
 
Hi
Since a few months I have noticed a decrease in horniness and almost no morning woods.
I have been trough an high stress period but now things are better, so I have done a blood test and checked the T Levels.

the results are : testosterone 690,66 ng/dl
free testosterone 11,4 picog/ml

I am 35 yo and, if I remember correctly the table from Danger & Play, I am close to the the high range of the spectrum, athough free T seems low.

However, this doesn't explain my lack of horniness.

Any suggestion?

Thanks
 

heavy

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Bump bc I never got a response, still wondering what you guys think.

Also asking again because I've been hitting the weights hard this year, doing the Arnold plan, and getting ripped, and just starting to learn about trt cycling and stuff...which made me think of my test 9 months ago.

heavy said:
Bump...I did a morning testosterone test last week and sent it in. Got it back yesterday...75 pg/mL

The chart said it's low but normal, but if I'm understanding correctly, that's incredibly low. 75 pg/mL = 75 ng/dL.

WTF any input fellas?

Edit: If you look at me, you'd never think low T. I'm about as cut as they come naturally, and with lifting, I have muscle definition and the coveted V-look. (I'm speaking from a point of humility here, obviously I tested my T for a reason, and I'm admitting it's low, so my point is not to brag.)

Edit2: I've found in my life T levels are just like "alpha"...very situational (except for a small % of population). When I feel like I'm in-fucking-charge, I can feel the T pumping. I suspect my T levels are a sign of my life right now, which is at a job I don't like, sitting all day, which comprises 40 hrs of my life per week.

This is a snapshot of the test...
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CleanSlate

Hummingbird
Gold Member
heavy said:
trt cycling

TRT and cycling are two different things.

The goal of TRT is to achieve healthy and stable levels of testosterone while keeping other crucial hormones (like estradiol and cortisol) in check - not too low, not to high.

Cycling is when you blast high doses of testosterone in order to make gains at the gym for a period of time, then restart your HPTA by running clomid and HCG for a period of time, and repeat.

You want to think long term, and as you can imagine, cycling can do a lot of damage in the long term. I'd recommend looking into TRT.

I've been through a lot when it comes to finding a proper TRT protocol, so PM me if you need more info.
 

PhDre

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Kaiserfranz said:
Hi
Since a few months I have noticed a decrease in horniness and almost no morning woods.
I have been trough an high stress period but now things are better, so I have done a blood test and checked the T Levels.

the results are : testosterone 690,66 ng/dl
free testosterone 11,4 picog/ml

I am 35 yo and, if I remember correctly the table from Danger & Play, I am close to the the high range of the spectrum, athough free T seems low.

However, this doesn't explain my lack of horniness.

Any suggestion?

Thanks

Your total test is fine. Free test is quite low.

Test for estradiol (kills your boner when too high and elevates SHBG) and DHEAs.
 

Orwellsboot

Kingfisher
Gold Member
So I went to a GP yesterday and asked to have my testosterone checked.

He looked at me quizically and said plainly; 'You don't have low testosterone'.

Geez mate might be the case but wouldn't you like something like a proper test done before you reach that conclusion? My area is plagued with young mothers and the institutionalized and I guess he treats that day in and day out but still.

At 27, what should be I looking out for in my results?
 
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