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<blockquote data-quote="Mark Minter" data-source="post: 320897" data-attributes="member: 4630">I have a book for you.&nbsp; I don't know to get it to you but we can work something out.&nbsp; The book is called The Hour Between Wolf and Dog and it is all about testosterone.&nbsp; It focuses on Wall Street traders and explains the biology that is going in their bodies as they undergo risk,&nbsp; have periods of success,&nbsp; and face periods of loss.&nbsp; The form is a RAR file that decompresses to an EPUB doc.&nbsp; Firefox has an add on that will read it straight from the browser.&nbsp; I used an online RAR decompression utility and it worked fine.&nbsp; I am reading the book right now. There is a tremendous relationship between mood,&nbsp; thoughts,&nbsp; risk, actions, and testosterone.&nbsp; The question might be a chicken or the egg one:&nbsp; Is the depression a function of the low T or is the depression causing the Low T.&nbsp;&nbsp; But the good thing I am finding is that both T production and personality due to T are &quot;plastic&quot;&nbsp; and both will change,&nbsp; your behavior,&nbsp; your personality,&nbsp; and your T level.&nbsp; Send me a forum message and let me know how to get in touch with you.I am heavily&nbsp; researching this topic right now and I believe it key and I mean fucking key to tons of stuff.&nbsp;&nbsp; I feel that low T in men is pervasive throughout society and it is causing problems in multiple facets of life but particularly in the relationships between men and women.You can help us all out by making this kind of a test case.&nbsp; And heavily reporting your journey through this issue.I would go to T Nation like an above poster suggested,&nbsp; join the forum,&nbsp; and post,&nbsp; specifically state your issue,&nbsp; say who you are,&nbsp; who we are,&nbsp; and then follow the guidance.&nbsp; That site has some of the best endocrine information around.&nbsp; And it has the same spirit as a manosphere forum,&nbsp; men sharing and helping other men.So let me know how we can work out getting this book to you.&nbsp; I am reading it right now and I find it a very very interesting read.&nbsp; I think you need to read it so you can get the biology and endocrine workings down as a fundamental set of knowledge and then enhance that knowledge over at T nation.The good thing is that your doctor appears very workable.&nbsp; One of the things the T Nation site says is &quot;fuck doctors.&nbsp; You be your expert.&nbsp; That doctor is there to assist you and do what you tell him,&nbsp; prescribe what you say,&nbsp; set up what tests you need, and work with you.&nbsp; He is just an air conditioner mechanic or another pizza maker and he does what you tell him to or you fire him and get one that will.So let me know.&nbsp; I would like to work with you and follow what you do with this and the results.&nbsp;&nbsp; I hope to sort of gel all of this together and release some findings to the community.I know this is gonna sound weird.&nbsp; But you gotta trust me on this.&nbsp; On the Rooshv.com site,&nbsp; he had a recent post about Approach 1 Girl a Day.&nbsp; Read that post and adopt that habit.&nbsp; One approach a day, every day.&nbsp; After you read the book you will understand why doing to leads to higher testosterone.&nbsp; But make it a keystone habit, as Roosh called it,&nbsp; one approach every day.&nbsp; The act of preparing to approach, then approaching,&nbsp; then having some success at it will raise and elevate your testosterone.&nbsp; And having success will accelerate the raising of the level.&nbsp; Your depression is probably caused by cortisol and testosterone kicks cortisol's ass.&nbsp;&nbsp; Even if you have to approach HB 3s at first. But success with them will cause something called the Winner Effect and leave your levels raised and this slowly affects your personality,&nbsp; and you carry that with you into the next approach,&nbsp; and this Winner's effect is noticeable and was the cause of a ton of studies among different animals where the researchers set up this like &quot;Animal Fight Club&quot;.&nbsp; They noted that the winner of one competition statistically won the next competition.&nbsp; And this began to build,&nbsp; as he won, he kept winning, and the level of the class he was beating increased.&nbsp; They measure T levels after the fights and detected a spike in T level that was produced about 45 minutes are the end of the competition.&nbsp; And this level enhanced his ability to think, for muscle growth,&nbsp; and his confidence.&nbsp; So start approaching now.&nbsp;&nbsp; Trust me on this.&nbsp;&nbsp; Go find that Roosh post and read it.&nbsp; He lists about 10 positive affects in his life from only two keystone habits,&nbsp; approaching 1 girl a day and lifting heavy weight.&nbsp; He is a perfect example of the plasticity of personality and how social competence is hormone driven and&nbsp; will change for the better or the worse as a function of experience and hormone level.&nbsp; You can beat this.&nbsp; You will beat it.&nbsp; This is going to change your life and you are lucky as hell to find out about this at 21.&nbsp;&nbsp; So help me to help others.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mark Minter, post: 320897, member: 4630"] I have a book for you. I don't know to get it to you but we can work something out. The book is called The Hour Between Wolf and Dog and it is all about testosterone. It focuses on Wall Street traders and explains the biology that is going in their bodies as they undergo risk, have periods of success, and face periods of loss. The form is a RAR file that decompresses to an EPUB doc. Firefox has an add on that will read it straight from the browser. I used an online RAR decompression utility and it worked fine. I am reading the book right now. There is a tremendous relationship between mood, thoughts, risk, actions, and testosterone. The question might be a chicken or the egg one: Is the depression a function of the low T or is the depression causing the Low T. But the good thing I am finding is that both T production and personality due to T are "plastic" and both will change, your behavior, your personality, and your T level. Send me a forum message and let me know how to get in touch with you. I am heavily researching this topic right now and I believe it key and I mean fucking key to tons of stuff. I feel that low T in men is pervasive throughout society and it is causing problems in multiple facets of life but particularly in the relationships between men and women. You can help us all out by making this kind of a test case. And heavily reporting your journey through this issue. I would go to T Nation like an above poster suggested, join the forum, and post, specifically state your issue, say who you are, who we are, and then follow the guidance. That site has some of the best endocrine information around. And it has the same spirit as a manosphere forum, men sharing and helping other men. So let me know how we can work out getting this book to you. I am reading it right now and I find it a very very interesting read. I think you need to read it so you can get the biology and endocrine workings down as a fundamental set of knowledge and then enhance that knowledge over at T nation. The good thing is that your doctor appears very workable. One of the things the T Nation site says is "fuck doctors. You be your expert. That doctor is there to assist you and do what you tell him, prescribe what you say, set up what tests you need, and work with you. He is just an air conditioner mechanic or another pizza maker and he does what you tell him to or you fire him and get one that will. So let me know. I would like to work with you and follow what you do with this and the results. I hope to sort of gel all of this together and release some findings to the community. I know this is gonna sound weird. But you gotta trust me on this. On the Rooshv.com site, he had a recent post about Approach 1 Girl a Day. Read that post and adopt that habit. One approach a day, every day. After you read the book you will understand why doing to leads to higher testosterone. But make it a keystone habit, as Roosh called it, one approach every day. The act of preparing to approach, then approaching, then having some success at it will raise and elevate your testosterone. And having success will accelerate the raising of the level. Your depression is probably caused by cortisol and testosterone kicks cortisol's ass. Even if you have to approach HB 3s at first. But success with them will cause something called the Winner Effect and leave your levels raised and this slowly affects your personality, and you carry that with you into the next approach, and this Winner's effect is noticeable and was the cause of a ton of studies among different animals where the researchers set up this like "Animal Fight Club". They noted that the winner of one competition statistically won the next competition. And this began to build, as he won, he kept winning, and the level of the class he was beating increased. They measure T levels after the fights and detected a spike in T level that was produced about 45 minutes are the end of the competition. And this level enhanced his ability to think, for muscle growth, and his confidence. So start approaching now. Trust me on this. Go find that Roosh post and read it. He lists about 10 positive affects in his life from only two keystone habits, approaching 1 girl a day and lifting heavy weight. He is a perfect example of the plasticity of personality and how social competence is hormone driven and will change for the better or the worse as a function of experience and hormone level. You can beat this. You will beat it. This is going to change your life and you are lucky as hell to find out about this at 21. So help me to help others. [/QUOTE]

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