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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elipe" data-source="post: 1535960" data-attributes="member: 17998">Certainly, God says that vengeance will be His, but shall that mean we become carpets for others to walk all over us? And can Christians not be part of God's vengeance upon the wicked? After all, has God not used nations to punish Israel in the OT? And even as those nations conquered Israel and became boastful, God punished them with yet another nation. Are not people then, capable of being the executors of God's vengeance?I'm not saying that we should take up arms, I am simply asking: are Christians precluded from being agents of God's vengeance? It's a question to ponder. Even the martyrs in Heaven ask Jesus to exact vengeance on those who slaughtered them (Rev 6:10). Not exactly pacifistic.</blockquote>