Donald Trump Jr's soon-to-be ex wife dated a Latino gangbanger in high school

Days of Broken Arrows

Crow
Gold Member
OK, essay time! I have something to add that speaks to the larger issue at hand.

Wealth can often be a prison for kids who grow up in it. It limits your choices and social circle. I feel DT Jr. is in some ways a prisoner of his dad's life and that explains his (poor) dating record.

I have first-hand experience with this. I have nephews growing up super-wealthy. (I also dated in this circle in college but this comparison will focus on the nephews, since they're guys.) These kids actually have less freedom than I did. Everything is mapped out: Their private schools, their leisure time, their activities, their lessons, the clothes they wear, etc.

On top of that, their dating pool seems a lot more shallow than the one I swam in. They can't just drive their ratty old Dodge Charger to the 7-Eleven and meet the hot working class teen babe (one of my favorite old stories I tell on here all the time).

There are EXPECTATIONS about who these boys can date. The girls have to be in a similar social standing or mom and dad go berserk and the neighbors start tut-tutting. Wait...for that matter, these kids can't even drive a car like a Dodge. There are unwritten "rules" about their cars. They have to be respectable.

Then there are the career paths. When I chose journalism, my folks didn't like it, but they went with it. It paid next to no money. I STILL drove the Charger -- noisy as hell. What could they do? They struggled when they were young and understood me in that respect.

My rich nephews ain't gonna be choosing any "off-center" careers, that's for sure. Their colleges are already picked out and they're being prepped daily. They now need to equal or surpass how well their dad did. That ain't gonna be easy. The pressure is already on.

These kids went from being fun, rambunctious boys to looking like beaten-down inmates. They seem world-weary and jaded, and they're still young.

All told, I would prefer having lived a middle class upbringing instead of having to deal with a zillion expectations on what I'm supposed to do. I wasn't living in my dad's shadow. I knew none of his friends or co-workers. I was able to create my own "reality."

And it's that reality that I now look back on as MY LIFE. I picked it. I hung out at the local print shop, found area record stores, met musicians, dated weird-as-hell girls, got my own job my folks knew NOTHING about, had my car break down, stayed at the beach with no money, etc.

Freedom isn't traveling to dozens of countries because guidance counselors and professors say that "travel" helps make you well-rounded. That's pre-emptive resume padding.

No one knew what I did or where I was most of the time when I was growing up. I didn't have much money, but I had freedom from pressure, which is pretty damned valuable.

Maybe this is the real reason so many people seem impressed with Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. Say what you want about Markle, but in picking her, Harry at least threw off the shackles that he clearly had to live with all his life. She might have red flags everywhere, but she's HIS choice, not the choice of his family, friends, and social circle.

Don Jr. could take a tip from him in that respect. I think he's spent his life like Frank Sinatra, Jr.: Living his dad's script, not authoring his own.
 

eljeffster

Kingfisher
nola said:
Suits said:
Buck Wild said:
Suits said:
^^^^Looks like Junior is just as bad at choosing women as his father.

Definitely. Lot of guys don't get that "red pill" and "alpha" aren't the same thing---at best they're substantially overlapping on a Venn diagram, but no more than that.

That's as good an explanation for why I've held back from having high expectations for Trump's time in office.

First off, Trump has been very good for America (and the world) so far. But at the end of the day, he's an alpha and not necessarily red-pill. In many cases, being a natural alpha prevents guys from seeing the truth about women.

Trump's pick for Secretary of State has had a direction that suggests that Devos has a red-pill mentality, but that doesn't mean that Trump or any his family really "gets it."

As seen by his female appointments. Surprised more guys aren't calling that out on here. Reverse trump derangement syndrome. Trump has appointed a lot of war pigs to power. I do not approve. Although maybe a good strategy to garner southern and midwest war pig support. I'm no campaign strategist though.

Exhibit 1 Sarah Huckabee Sanders



Did some MOFO question my WARPIG?!

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Repo

Hummingbird
kaotic said:
Repo said:
Because real feminine women don't through themselves at him(or anyone) as much as these skanks do. Got to consider, he is in a position where skanks are throwing themselves at him 24/7, and even though he clearly needs to make better choices there is probably alot of fear that younger women are more likely to be putting on an act to divorce him for money later . . Versus an older women who will claim she's done with that life and wants to settle.

An older woman like Guilfoyle whose divorced and a career whore?

I'll take the odds with a younger feminine women every single time.

He doesn't need to wife these chicks up, I'm just saying he'd dating poorly.

Hey I agree, I'm just saying what game she's playing.
 
You literally can't make this stuff up:
Vanessa Trump planned to marry Saudi Prince after Latin King romance
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Vanessa Trump moved on to a Saudi prince — whose father was once suspected of indirect ties to the 9/11 attackers — after her romances with Latin King Valentin Rivera and Leo DiCaprio.

Sources told Page Six that Vanessa and Prince Khalid bin Bandar bin Sultan Al Saud were even planning to marry until the Sept. 11 attacks.

“They dated from 1998 to 2001 and lived together. He ditched her on 9/11; days after, he flew back to Saudi Arabia. They were planning to marry [at the time]. They were inseparable,” a source told Page Six.

Bandar is part of the powerful Al Saud dynasty.

His father, Bandar bin Sultan Al Saud, was Saudi Arabia’s ambassador to the US from 1983 to 2005, with ties so close to the Bush family he was known as “Bandar Bush.”

He was suspected of indirect ties to al Qaeda and associates of the 9/11 hijackers, but there was no evidence that he knowingly provided support for the attacks. He insisted, “Saudi Arabia has nothing to hide” and 9/11 was “the worst thing to happen to us.”

Vanessa’s relationship with the younger Bandar was a stark contrast to her marriage to Donald Jr., who, sources told Page Six, treated her like a “second-class citizen.”

The wealthy Saudi prince was also a big upgrade from Rivera, who recently shared love letters she wrote to him in prison. “Bandar treated her as if she was his queen. It was the complete opposite from Don Jr. They were together 24/7. They were a real couple,” the source said.

A second source close to Trump, however, down played their relationship.

“They dated in her early 20s. They never lived together and were not planning to get married.”

Oxford graduate Khalid married British aristocrat Lucy Caroline Cuthbert, the Duke of Northumberland’s niece, in 2011.

He became Saudi ambassador to Germany in 2017.

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https://pagesix.com/2018/05/12/vanessa-trump-planned-to-marry-saudi-prince-after-latin-king-romance/
 

PolymathGuru

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Days of Broken Arrows said:
OK, essay time! I have something to add that speaks to the larger issue at hand.

Wealth can often be a prison for kids who grow up in it. It limits your choices and social circle. I feel DT Jr. is in some ways a prisoner of his dad's life and that explains his (poor) dating record.

I have first-hand experience with this. I have nephews growing up super-wealthy. (I also dated in this circle in college but this comparison will focus on the nephews, since they're guys.) These kids actually have less freedom than I did. Everything is mapped out: Their private schools, their leisure time, their activities, their lessons, the clothes they wear, etc.

On top of that, their dating pool seems a lot more shallow than the one I swam in. They can't just drive their ratty old Dodge Charger to the 7-Eleven and meet the hot working class teen babe (one of my favorite old stories I tell on here all the time).

There are EXPECTATIONS about who these boys can date. The girls have to be in a similar social standing or mom and dad go berserk and the neighbors start tut-tutting. Wait...for that matter, these kids can't even drive a car like a Dodge. There are unwritten "rules" about their cars. They have to be respectable.

Then there are the career paths. When I chose journalism, my folks didn't like it, but they went with it. It paid next to no money. I STILL drove the Charger -- noisy as hell. What could they do? They struggled when they were young and understood me in that respect.

My rich nephews ain't gonna be choosing any "off-center" careers, that's for sure. Their colleges are already picked out and they're being prepped daily. They now need to equal or surpass how well their dad did. That ain't gonna be easy. The pressure is already on.

These kids went from being fun, rambunctious boys to looking like beaten-down inmates. They seem world-weary and jaded, and they're still young.

All told, I would prefer having lived a middle class upbringing instead of having to deal with a zillion expectations on what I'm supposed to do. I wasn't living in my dad's shadow. I knew none of his friends or co-workers. I was able to create my own "reality."

And it's that reality that I now look back on as MY LIFE. I picked it. I hung out at the local print shop, found area record stores, met musicians, dated weird-as-hell girls, got my own job my folks knew NOTHING about, had my car break down, stayed at the beach with no money, etc.

Freedom isn't traveling to dozens of countries because guidance counselors and professors say that "travel" helps make you well-rounded. That's pre-emptive resume padding.

No one knew what I did or where I was most of the time when I was growing up. I didn't have much money, but I had freedom from pressure, which is pretty damned valuable.

Maybe this is the real reason so many people seem impressed with Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. Say what you want about Markle, but in picking her, Harry at least threw off the shackles that he clearly had to live with all his life. She might have red flags everywhere, but she's HIS choice, not the choice of his family, friends, and social circle.

Don Jr. could take a tip from him in that respect. I think he's spent his life like Frank Sinatra, Jr.: Living his dad's script, not authoring his own.

It is hard to believe a rich kid could actually be red pilled. Most red pilled people need to be burned first before they actually be red pilled. Simply being divorced isn't enough. The financial burn is necessary.

I was raised red pilled in my child hood. I can guarantee you it is painful. Although I believed red pill ideas through my instinct and experience, I couldn't understand it until I started reading Roosh's works.
 

puckerman

Ostrich
Days of Broken Arrows said:
OK, essay time! I have something to add that speaks to the larger issue at hand.

Wealth can often be a prison for kids who grow up in it. It limits your choices and social circle. I feel DT Jr. is in some ways a prisoner of his dad's life and that explains his (poor) dating record.

I have first-hand experience with this. I have nephews growing up super-wealthy. (I also dated in this circle in college but this comparison will focus on the nephews, since they're guys.) These kids actually have less freedom than I did. Everything is mapped out: Their private schools, their leisure time, their activities, their lessons, the clothes they wear, etc.

On top of that, their dating pool seems a lot more shallow than the one I swam in. They can't just drive their ratty old Dodge Charger to the 7-Eleven and meet the hot working class teen babe (one of my favorite old stories I tell on here all the time).

There are EXPECTATIONS about who these boys can date. The girls have to be in a similar social standing or mom and dad go berserk and the neighbors start tut-tutting. Wait...for that matter, these kids can't even drive a car like a Dodge. There are unwritten "rules" about their cars. They have to be respectable.

Then there are the career paths. When I chose journalism, my folks didn't like it, but they went with it. It paid next to no money. I STILL drove the Charger -- noisy as hell. What could they do? They struggled when they were young and understood me in that respect.

My rich nephews ain't gonna be choosing any "off-center" careers, that's for sure. Their colleges are already picked out and they're being prepped daily. They now need to equal or surpass how well their dad did. That ain't gonna be easy. The pressure is already on.

These kids went from being fun, rambunctious boys to looking like beaten-down inmates. They seem world-weary and jaded, and they're still young.

All told, I would prefer having lived a middle class upbringing instead of having to deal with a zillion expectations on what I'm supposed to do. I wasn't living in my dad's shadow. I knew none of his friends or co-workers. I was able to create my own "reality."

And it's that reality that I now look back on as MY LIFE. I picked it. I hung out at the local print shop, found area record stores, met musicians, dated weird-as-hell girls, got my own job my folks knew NOTHING about, had my car break down, stayed at the beach with no money, etc.

Freedom isn't traveling to dozens of countries because guidance counselors and professors say that "travel" helps make you well-rounded. That's pre-emptive resume padding.

No one knew what I did or where I was most of the time when I was growing up. I didn't have much money, but I had freedom from pressure, which is pretty damned valuable.

Maybe this is the real reason so many people seem impressed with Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. Say what you want about Markle, but in picking her, Harry at least threw off the shackles that he clearly had to live with all his life. She might have red flags everywhere, but she's HIS choice, not the choice of his family, friends, and social circle.

Don Jr. could take a tip from him in that respect. I think he's spent his life like Frank Sinatra, Jr.: Living his dad's script, not authoring his own.

This is a great analysis.

I suspect this is one reason why they get involved with so many fucked-up causes. Most of these little shits grow up to be Marxists. If you are red-pilled, you likely had real struggle. You weren't a spoiled little pussy who had everything given to him.
 
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