The quest for hidden knowledge must always have a purpose other than the mere knowing of that knowledge or else it simply becomes a form of worship.
That is the same book which I have bought from him and let it ship to Germany for 60 $. I only knew about Jay from his yt channel, and I expected his analysis would be more like The Vigilant Citizen. In reality he really tackled "esoteric" topics, for which I had no real context, so I got bored quick.I'd heard him on a podcast with a friend, and thought some of what he said was interesting. It was a time when I was trying to support the (oddly-promoted) voices on youtube who were contradicting the narrative, so I purchased one of his books:
At the risk of playing devil's advocate, "what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? But those who are outside God judges."If you're turning from Mother Church out of fear that it's Satanic - and fear is not God's Will for how you should live - but still using any of those services, then you're being a raging hypocrite, because the CEO's in play there are openly-Satanic, (and mostly Reform Jewish).
This is a good point. Dyer goes into very deep theological arguments based on ancient theological writings and I usually have no idea what he's really talking about. It sounds logical and makes sense, but I don't have the time to actually familiarize myself with all the ancient theological writings he refers to....Jay Dyer...I don`t know enough about theology to even understand his arguments....
This is sort of where I am at. I do not want to make an idol out of my tradition, but I "continue in what I have learned, because I know those from whom I have learned it, and how from infancy I have known the Holy Scriptures...", to paraphrase St. Paul. Many of our parochial squabbles seem...trite, at this point, but my spiritual life as a result of my liturgical tradition has had manifest results in my life, rooted firmly in the Word of Truth and the Sacraments, which I cannot attribute to a spirit of falsehood. I know my faith is founded on Jesus Christ my God and Lord.I agree with posters above who say you should just stick with the faith of your ancestors. In the past, people lived in villages, and your village would probably have one single church that everyone in the village would attend. There was no choosing between this church or thay church, or this religion or that religion.
See, I'm not sure this is ever going to happen (short of a total collapse of the current political and technological system)....the Catholic Church has gotten much "weaker."
It's up to us to strengthen it back up.
I hate to say that what I just experienced is an interesting coincidence as I am sure that God is working in a positive way here (I wouldn't call it a consoling sign, but an uplifting one, nonetheless):Tying it back to Tanquerey, we are not told to study the spiritual realities purely for our own curiousity, and even Theology can be frowned upon when approached in this manner. All things need to be correctly-ordered towards God. You can read about God for the satisfaction of your personal curiousity, rather than spiritual advancement towards Him.
You won't learn this right off the mark. This is one of the undertakings of the second age of the spiritual life: The Illuminative Way. One thing I'm learning is praying for God's sake, not for my own satisfaction received from Prayer. This also comes down to desiring Spiritual Consolation from Prayer. I used to crave it terribly: now, it either comes or it doesn't, and either is accepted as His will.
I know what you mean - the Byzantine rite took a lot of getting used to for me, although nearly all the parishes I've attended have been thoroughly culturally western. I'd happily ditch the iconostasis and Byzantine chant, and once again see four weeks of Advent instead of 40 days, have some ember days, etc. There are some things I have really eventually come to love about the Byzantine rite, though, like all the bows and not having pews.And, like others above, the East is too parochial and foreign to our western experience, especially those of us who are culturally and liturgically immersed in the western tradition. Thus I and others find ourselves in quite a pickle.
Rod Dreher, too, author of The Benedict Option: A Strategy for Christians in a Post-Christian Nation, renounced Catholicism for Orthodoxy, which is anything but orthodox. They have a heretical conception of the Trinity; they think the Holy Ghost doesn't proceed from the Father and the Son but only from the Son.Jay Dyer recommends Orthodox Christianity, and he makes some very good points. I am not nearly as well-versed in theology as he is, but the stuff he says makes sense to me for the most part.