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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Towgunner" data-source="post: 1098976" data-attributes="member: 12355">I don't think its just men and MGTOW, lots of people are starting to "opt out". I think its more apt to describe this as a rejection of the forced culture being imposed on all of us. Another proxy for this growing, and I do believe it is growing, cohort of people, is the appeal of "doom porn". This is not to be confused with climate change hysteria, which evokes fear and, therefore, is an agent of control. No, this "doom porn" reflects a very genuine desire by many people for the entire system to collapse. I think about this. It tends to come from the conservative side, if not entirely, which is odd because this side also tends to be more patriotic and, therefore, you'd expect them to wish to see America preserved. But, that's the thing and that's my point. I think there are lots of people who have already concluded that America is beyond saving. Moreover, that the thing that has replaced America is so odious, so repulsive, so undesirable, that we fantasize about its demise. Put self fulfilling prophesies aside. I look at this more from an anthropological perspective. What do we say when a very large swathe of a society's population wishes its own destruction? I suppose we conclude the obvious. As mentioned above, I have opted out. I do reject today's culture whole cloth. And, yes, when we're dabbling with pedophilia, having seen deep cut marks on the wrists of my good friend who was molested by a pedophile, I do want this fucking fucked up country to die. Speaking of homosexual "marriage", this was forced onto us. Two popular referendums in Massachusetts and California, of all places, voted this down. And it was only implemented after judicial action. Perhaps such referendums passed after this, but, we must account for propaganda and the very real fact that by way of this judicial fiat authorizing gay marriage against the will of the people, what good is voting? My point here is simple, we feel powerless to this thing. And then cross dressing comes into the picture and, just like it was with homosexuals, the same tactics were applied, but worst still, the same forcing. Cramming down your throat inundation. Its actually the very same way shitty pop music is made to be popular. Here again, we're actually stating undeniable scientific objective truth, i.e. men and women are different and not interchangeable, yet, still this thing persists, even after being thoroughly debunked. Its true, I've said it many times. We've actually won this "debate" with cross dressers, there is no way a man can become a woman, period. Yet it persists. And then the gays once said, "we just want to live our lives quietly and no, no, don't be crazy we're not after your kids". Bullshit, I just saw a homosexual adult man dressed provactively get on all fours and do a sex dance to a 4 year old girl! Bullshit, you're not after our kids. Look, I do feel something is rising. I do not believe we'll actually devolve to pedophilia. pedophilia is an untenable position to defend. I do think "they" will push to "normalize" it. But, it will force the hand of many people who will, like me, just say enough is enough. Immigration is a wild card here, since it delivers mindless voters to vote for the perverted left. But, forcing pedophilia, which again I do think they'll try, will evoke a rebellion, maybe a civil war. And perhaps the prophecy does self fulfill, because no matter how many soros's NGOs are funding you, they're the side of evil. And if nothing else we most certainly will have God on our side.</blockquote>

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