Correct. Although now these are strictly casual shoes which would never look appropriate with dress pants, only jeans, chinos or maybe shorts. Leather loafers, which look strange as you say, can be worn with both dress and casual pants.
You're very welcome. Re the capped toe Oxford, it's just a question of taste. This is just me trying to impose my preference on people who read this thread. But it's a taste that is evidently shared by many since all major shoe makers offer the capped toe Oxford as their flagship model. You're in the United States so I would recommend the Park Avenue by Allen Edmonds. It's not worth the full retail price so wait until they have their regular sales where you can get them 100 to 150 off. Or if you're in a position to really splash out on something you will take pride in for a lifetime, the next time you visit New York, you can pick something up from Crockett and Jones or Carmina.Thanks for making this thread. I've had my old pair of (relatively cheap) black dress shoes for about five years now, and they've held up pretty well all things considered but the lining is starting to come apart at the heal on one of them and I was thinking about buying another pair, a little bit better in quality. This thread has been very useful in helping me decide what to look for in my next pair of dress shoes. I guess the one thing I'm curious about, is that you've said multiple times that "every man must invest in is a pair of plain black capped toe oxfords." Aesthetically I've always sort of preferred the plain toe to the capped. Is the capped shoe being the standard just convention, or is there some other reason (such as durability) that a plain toe should be avoided?
Unless you're wearing your shoes every single day, the average person can easily make a pair of cheap dress shoes last much longer than 3 years. But even if they wear out a bit, so what? Furthermore, what are the odds you'll like wearing your pair of $500 shoes for 30+ years anyway? Most peoples fashion sense changes a lot over time.High quality shoes are not cheap, but they are an investment which will pay for themselves over time. For example, if you paid 100 dollars for a pair of black dress shoes, they will initially look good, but will wear out after three years and will need to be replaced. Over 30 years you'll pay 1000 dollars for the privilege of wearing low quality shoes. Alternatively, you could pay 500 dollars for a high quality pair of dress shoes which will look great, be oh so comfortable, and will last at least thirty years if you look after them and resole them when needed.
Congratulations my friend. That's a fine shoe. You'll enjoy them for many years to come.I got a pair of black Park Avenues last week, largely based on the advice from this thread. I can't believe I waited this long to buy a decent pair of shoes. A huge step up from what I was wearing before.