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<blockquote data-quote="hv123" data-source="post: 1291946" data-attributes="member: 10498"><p>I don't think it's entirely down to snobby attitude. Automatic transmissions <strong><u>used</u></strong> to be <strong>atrocious</strong> - e.g massively slowing the car down compared to manual. costing more, using more fuel, being less reliable. Not kicking down when over taking. All of which are bad in europe where cars are generally smaller with smaller engines. and yes I have driven the same car with manual and with automatic, back in the old days, and it is like replacing the gear box with a giant turd - completely ruining the car.</p><p></p><p>With all that being said from what I hear the modern automatics are really good compared to the old days. At least from what people tell me. I guess it's the computer software control. Last time I drove an automatic was in the states and they definitely make a lot more sense there due to the nature of the roads. I still got very frustrated by having to drive by committee though. </p><p></p><p>Driving a manual is as natural to me as walking just about. I've been driving 25 years, so if you add up that times the number of gear changes per year, it's obviously in the millions. I literally don't even think about doing it any more. </p><p></p><p>This leads to the other problem, which is that it's WEIRD to go from manual to automatic. If you have been driving manual for years or decades, not having a gear knob and clutch feels very very strange. People don't like change generally. Because it's so automatic (no pun intended) to drive a manual your left foot and hand get confused by not having anything to do.</p><p></p><p>Automatics are considered, well, a bit gay, when it's comes to motoring enthusiasts over here. Culturally, getting an auto is basically like openly admitting you can't drive properly. Which is back to your snobbish point, to be fair. </p><p></p><p>Automatics are also worth less and are harder to sell on the second hand market. Another point worth noting is that here, the UK, if you take your driving test on an automatic vehicle you then are not legally allowed to drive a manual car at all. Mostly people who can't pass the driving test (which is not easy) do it on an automatic. Problem being you limit yourself to only being able to drive autos, which are rarer, and if you are man you will probably never have sex with a woman. </p><p></p><p>*(using more fuel - torque converter automatics don't have engine braking like manual (and they weigh more)).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hv123, post: 1291946, member: 10498"] I don't think it's entirely down to snobby attitude. Automatic transmissions [b][u]used[/u][/b] to be [b]atrocious[/b] - e.g massively slowing the car down compared to manual. costing more, using more fuel, being less reliable. Not kicking down when over taking. All of which are bad in europe where cars are generally smaller with smaller engines. and yes I have driven the same car with manual and with automatic, back in the old days, and it is like replacing the gear box with a giant turd - completely ruining the car. With all that being said from what I hear the modern automatics are really good compared to the old days. At least from what people tell me. I guess it's the computer software control. Last time I drove an automatic was in the states and they definitely make a lot more sense there due to the nature of the roads. I still got very frustrated by having to drive by committee though. Driving a manual is as natural to me as walking just about. I've been driving 25 years, so if you add up that times the number of gear changes per year, it's obviously in the millions. I literally don't even think about doing it any more. This leads to the other problem, which is that it's WEIRD to go from manual to automatic. If you have been driving manual for years or decades, not having a gear knob and clutch feels very very strange. People don't like change generally. Because it's so automatic (no pun intended) to drive a manual your left foot and hand get confused by not having anything to do. Automatics are considered, well, a bit gay, when it's comes to motoring enthusiasts over here. Culturally, getting an auto is basically like openly admitting you can't drive properly. Which is back to your snobbish point, to be fair. Automatics are also worth less and are harder to sell on the second hand market. Another point worth noting is that here, the UK, if you take your driving test on an automatic vehicle you then are not legally allowed to drive a manual car at all. Mostly people who can't pass the driving test (which is not easy) do it on an automatic. Problem being you limit yourself to only being able to drive autos, which are rarer, and if you are man you will probably never have sex with a woman. *(using more fuel - torque converter automatics don't have engine braking like manual (and they weigh more)). [/QUOTE]
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