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<blockquote data-quote="Teedub" data-source="post: 1291956" data-attributes="member: 4257"><p>Automatics feel like glorified but boring go karts to me, possibly except if they have a triptronic (gear paddles on steering wheel but no clutch pedal) option (more like an f1 'kart' in that case ha). I love changing gear (preferably stick rather than paddles though as mentioned above) and I wouldn't consider someone a 'real' driver either if they didn't know how. That might piss some Americans/Canadians (?) on here off but it's probably the opinion of nearly every person in Europe.</p><p></p><p>I understand once you get to a certain age and have done the miles it becomes less enjoyable. I'd put my Dad in this category. Drove manual for years, but as he got into mid 40s+ always an automatic with triptronic for when he wants to feel like Michael Schumacher. Your higher end BMWs and Audis etc are usually this as standard.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and the handbrake lever being a fairly little one by the steering wheel is weird to us too. But I don't know how ubiquitous this actually is outside of tv/film.</p><p></p><p>On the plus side, if I move to the States I'll get a manual and know it'll be a lot safer than Seabass' F-150 <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Teedub, post: 1291956, member: 4257"] Automatics feel like glorified but boring go karts to me, possibly except if they have a triptronic (gear paddles on steering wheel but no clutch pedal) option (more like an f1 'kart' in that case ha). I love changing gear (preferably stick rather than paddles though as mentioned above) and I wouldn't consider someone a 'real' driver either if they didn't know how. That might piss some Americans/Canadians (?) on here off but it's probably the opinion of nearly every person in Europe. I understand once you get to a certain age and have done the miles it becomes less enjoyable. I'd put my Dad in this category. Drove manual for years, but as he got into mid 40s+ always an automatic with triptronic for when he wants to feel like Michael Schumacher. Your higher end BMWs and Audis etc are usually this as standard. Oh, and the handbrake lever being a fairly little one by the steering wheel is weird to us too. But I don't know how ubiquitous this actually is outside of tv/film. On the plus side, if I move to the States I'll get a manual and know it'll be a lot safer than Seabass' F-150 :) [/QUOTE]
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