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<blockquote data-quote="Laner" data-source="post: 1291959" data-attributes="member: 1932">I feel they both have their uses. I learned to drive an old Cummins when I was 12. I wasn't allowed to use first gear, I had to start in 2nd. Those steep first gears, the long throw of the transmission and being a kid on a long hard clutch made me understand gears better than I realized. My grandpa was a machinist and heavy duty mechanic, as well as a farmer and rancher. I still remember the vibration of the manual between my fingers as I practiced in his million mile Landcruiser. I have a old VW that has never needed brakes done in its 17 year life. The engine does all the stopping it needs. My Chevy has a tow package so its got a nice cooler on its automatic. I am glad that First Class cabin doesn't have a stick. That ride can keep me comfortable for 12 hour drives - 1000+km before stopping for gas. Some punks tried stealing my moms immaculate old Jetta a couple years ago. After putting it in neutral and getting backed down the hill at her place, they killed the battery trying to get moving. Stalled it out til the battery was done. Like I said, a time and place for both.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Laner, post: 1291959, member: 1932"] I feel they both have their uses. I learned to drive an old Cummins when I was 12. I wasn't allowed to use first gear, I had to start in 2nd. Those steep first gears, the long throw of the transmission and being a kid on a long hard clutch made me understand gears better than I realized. My grandpa was a machinist and heavy duty mechanic, as well as a farmer and rancher. I still remember the vibration of the manual between my fingers as I practiced in his million mile Landcruiser. I have a old VW that has never needed brakes done in its 17 year life. The engine does all the stopping it needs. My Chevy has a tow package so its got a nice cooler on its automatic. I am glad that First Class cabin doesn't have a stick. That ride can keep me comfortable for 12 hour drives - 1000+km before stopping for gas. Some punks tried stealing my moms immaculate old Jetta a couple years ago. After putting it in neutral and getting backed down the hill at her place, they killed the battery trying to get moving. Stalled it out til the battery was done. Like I said, a time and place for both. [/QUOTE]

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