Dutch farmers protest

budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member
Maybe I missed it but didn't Canada just propose a 50% nitrogen reduction by 2030 and doing the same thing going on with the Dutch?
Yes. As Helmsman said, it was posted in the Supply Shortage International thread.

Speaking of Canada's fertilizer reduction plan...

 
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RedLagoon

Kingfisher
Orthodox Inquirer
I don't like to repeat myself but the essence of it all is to NOT comply.

Aussies are now all shot up and I'm still not "allowed" to work. Resistance is the key. Everything you give in to you'll never ever get back.

Also these "emissions" nonsense is their game, their play. They're the only ones that are actually emitting something... which is nonsense.
 
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Belgrano

Hummingbird
Gold Member
The whole spiel about "nitrogen reduction" always makes me chuckle.

Reminder:
The atmosphere of Earth is composed of nitrogen (78%), oxygen (21%), argon (0.9%), carbon dioxide (0.04%) and trace gases.​

The planetary atmosphere, the very air we breathe in every moment of our lives, the "empty" space all around us, it's almost 80% pure, unadulterated, hard-hitting nitrogen.

Of course too much nitrogen in the environment is also bad. The soil becomes too acidic for productive agriculture, it seeps into the waterways and leads to algal blooms and dead zones with low oxygen. Related compounds like ammonia and nitrogen oxide add to the problem.
So what are the biggest sources of this "nitrogen pollution"?
Artificial fertilizers, animal manure and fossil fuels.
How do you reduce "nitrogen pollution"?
Get rid of artificial fertilizers, livestock and fossil fuels.

Brilliant!
"But wait, does "nitrogen pollution" actually exist on a scale that justifies the government ignoring the property rights of its citizens and expropriating farmers who have fed the nation and tilled their family's land for centuries now?"
Well of course, it's a big problem.​

"Is it really though?"
Oh, absolutely. Do you even read the newspapers out here? Haha, you rubes always crack me up. We told you a million times by now. So listen up, big problems require big solutions. Gotta break some eggs if you want to make an omelette!
"But what motivated farmers to use so much nitrogen in the production process? Are we evil? Are we dumb? Or is it because for the last few decades the state decided to pursue an agricultural policy that required extremely high yields on very little land and heavily incentivized this with subsidies and tax breaks, as well as favorable credit, refinancing and insurance conditions for farmers willing to switch to large scale industrial agriculture, whereas everyone not on board with this just couldn't make a profit anymore and went bankrupt?"

Ah well, you know how it goes. The government giveth, and the government taketh away!
Anyway, nitrogen is bad now, so we'll have to confiscate your farm. What do you mean "when", right now of course.
Here, you even get some pocket money. Let no one say the Dutch government isn't generous and fair!

What? An insulting offer way below market value?
Silly farmer, don't be stubborn. You're lucky to receive anything after polluting the environment for decades now. Did you really think we'd let you get away with it?

Ha!

Now come on boys, time to wrap this up. And get this yokel out of my face. Thank you very much.

You know what, now that I see it, it's actually a nice property. That plot over there looks perfect for our new bug farm.
Man, I love my job!
 
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RedLagoon

Kingfisher
Orthodox Inquirer
"All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players: they have their exits and their entrances; and one man in his time plays many parts, his acts being seven ages".

Just don't let them. They're losing.
 

budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member


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Easy_C

Peacock
The fanatical obsession with solar panels and "Renewable energy" is quite a sight to behold. Even though Solar Panels are toxic and hard to recycle once they are scrapped.

Counterpoint: They do make sense not for “green energy” but to help you survive in an extremely adverse environment.

One common feature of Afghanistan was that the little villages would have solar panels on the roof. This let them power light, a fan, and radio. At night you’d see people gathered around near a light sharing a radio.

In these areas there was zero infrastructure and even if there was it’s doubtful that the corrupt government could maintain and supply the fuels needed. Fuel was mostly stolen before it got to any destination.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Ostrich
Orthodox
Counterpoint: They do make sense not for “green energy” but to help you survive in an extremely adverse environment.

One common feature of Afghanistan was that the little villages would have solar panels on the roof. This let them power light, a fan, and radio. At night you’d see people gathered around near a light sharing a radio.

In these areas there was zero infrastructure and even if there was it’s doubtful that the corrupt government could maintain and supply the fuels needed. Fuel was mostly stolen before it got to any destination.

Solar panels work in Afghanistan, not in climates like Canada's or even many parts of the U.S.

You also need to replace them every 5-6 years, and they are mostly imported from China. The supply chain adds another layer of risk.

You can survive in an adverse environment without electricity for decades: you just need independent sources of heating, water, and sewage, as well as a way to grow/hunt your own food.

However, most of us, myself included, would likely die quickly in such conditions.
 

holgerdanske

Woodpecker
Catholic
Counterpoint: They do make sense not for “green energy” but to help you survive in an extremely adverse environment.

One common feature of Afghanistan was that the little villages would have solar panels on the roof. This let them power light, a fan, and radio. At night you’d see people gathered around near a light sharing a radio.

In these areas there was zero infrastructure and even if there was it’s doubtful that the corrupt government could maintain and supply the fuels needed. Fuel was mostly stolen before it got to any destination.

At this stage I'm not interested in fringe examples and counterpoints. What I am interested in are ways to stop this insanity that will cause millions of people to starve to death.
 

Cynllo

Kingfisher
Other Christian
The boers were Dutch farmers. As a fun fact, they still speak like 17th century Dutch.

More vegetarians in Poland and Italy than in the NL and Belgium? This map looks like a crock to me.


All of the lovie lefties I know who were vegetarians, who used to bully people into not eating meat, became lazy vegetarians and then avid meat munchers.

I think this map is rubbish. I'd say it is 5% in the UK and 2% who remain vegetarian for life.

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Has anyone done any research into how this relates to the situation in Sri Lanka? At a glance this looks like a deliberate attempt to collapse the food supply...


Sri Lanka collapses and 1 month later they are pushing the same policies in NL etc.

Possibly engineering a food crisis on top of the result of Ukraine.

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I think they are going to be pushing hard to get as much in with engineered crisises by 2030.

They need the control system in by then.

Installed technocracy looking at being booted out in Italy, after 14 years of fudging it.

They are really dicing with it, as all their green new dealing and globalism weakens their already weak puppets like Macron.

There's going to have to be excessive hand revealling.

Covid has revealed how many will notice.

Unfortunately for them its roughly everyone who can think who noticed. And now too many rube farmers in NL know who Rothschild is.

Off-topic, but someone sent me this on the broader topic -

I noticed yesterday as well the Bank of England has told mortgage lenders to do away with the ‘affordability test’ as of yesterday for anyone who applies.
This doesn’t remove the salary to loan calc (ie x3, x4 whatever) but it does remove an affordability test that asks Can this person still afford the mortgage payments if interest rates go up at least 3%. Bearing in mind this policy was enforced was enforced after the 2008 collapse. irresponsible to remove that now as we are heading into similar or worse ‍♀️ but yanno, gotta keep shovelling out the debt even though interest rates are going ⬆️⬆️⬆️

I think what works for them is some mix if chaos, while somehow maintaining the economy at its current level for the next 8 years or so. I don't see how they can ultimately progress with a recession/depression. Then with everyone on bug bugeres, in govt. dormatiries and the real ID, they finally let everything crash circa 2030.

You'd have to think shutting down alt media has to be an essential component.
 

Zach

Sparrow
Catholic
To me its clear that the globalist forces lost complete control years ago, around 2014/2015 was when they really lost a lot of their grip on things. So many mistakes. Russia/China/Iran are insurmountable. They couldn't even topple Bashar Al-Asad of Syria after a 10 year war with him. Covid did not last nearly as long as they hoped. They completely failed in the Russia/Ukraine war. The sanctions backfired, and hurt the West more than the East. They are desperately trying to prop up the economy/stock martket with emergency stimulus, indicating its falling apart faster than they had intended. Look around, the signs are everywhere that these people are losing their grip on the world, their NWO agenda they've been working toward is falling apart at the seams. They're done, but they are going to drag down the world with them. Think of the next 10-20 years as a mini-dark age. They hope to be in place to offer solutions amid the chaos (mass surveliance and removal of rights) but it will not work, decentralization is occuring too quickly, there will be too many outside of their grid that don't need their solutions.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
To me its clear that the globalist forces lost complete control years ago, around 2014/2015 was when they really lost a lot of their grip on things. So many mistakes. Russia/China/Iran are insurmountable. They couldn't even topple Bashar Al-Asad of Syria after a 10 year war with him. Covid did not last nearly as long as they hoped. They completely failed in the Russia/Ukraine war. The sanctions backfired, and hurt the West more than the East. They are desperately trying to prop up the economy/stock martket with emergency stimulus, indicating its falling apart faster than they had intended. Look around, the signs are everywhere that these people are losing their grip on the world, their NWO agenda they've been working toward is falling apart at the seams. They're done, but they are going to drag down the world with them. Think of the next 10-20 years as a mini-dark age. They hope to be in place to offer solutions amid the chaos (mass surveliance and removal of rights) but it will not work, decentralization is occuring too quickly, there will be too many outside of their grid that don't need their solutions.

I've noticed that, in hindsight, the turning point for the GAE was when Russia intervened directly in Syria which decisively ended any prospect of success at Syrian regime change.
 

Enoch

Hummingbird
things are heating up along the canals...





You're going to see an escalation in police brutality and repression in Holland similar to what went down in France the last couple of years.



Would love to see this happen in a America but anyone doing this needs to have their will & testament completed and their attorney on standby.
 

Cynllo

Kingfisher
Other Christian
There is a good article by Steve Hanke in the NY Sun. He is a bit of a boomer, but probably among one of the most empirical economists.

Full article: https://archive.is/MQvBp

He briefly outlines the situation in Sri Lanka, which was caused by banning synthetic fertilisers and pesticides, which in turn caused a dramatic fall in food production.

Domestic rice production plunged by 20 percent in six months and the price of rice surged by 50 percent.

For a not particularly developed economy, that is quite a hit.

But the death knell came when Sri Lanka embraced modern moenrty theory (MMT).

M1 money supply doubled, and foreign exchange reserves fell by 75%, hurtling the Sri Lankan rupee high on the list of failing currencies.

These policies, Hanke says, were spearheaded by one George Soros and one Joseph Stiglitz.

I seem to remember Stiglitz was a critic of globalist policies, which he said were used as mafia takeovers of developing economies. I remember him being a guest on Alex Jones many years ago. But here he is crashing an economy himself.

You can probably guess that Stiglitz and Soros share a common ancestry.

This would suggest that Soros's obvious desire to destroy countries is not limited to white countries. It will be interesting to see if they/he continues on this path.

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Ricardo Hausmann? These names make Kumargrugta think.

I can't immedietly see this trifecta operating in NL, but I guess they don't really need to when Rutte has and will continue to dance.

 
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