Eating bugs is good for you and will save the environment

JohnKreese said:
Even on the dystopian "Snowpiercer" train, the dregs of society were horrified at the realization that they were eating bugs


No thanks
I'm wondering if they are priming us for "look this situation isn't so bad, I have seen way worse stuff in movies" situation.


Millions died in Russian gulags btw. and these were some of the most evil places:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitch_Wars
https://blogs.lt.vt.edu/communistculture/2015/11/08/the-fall-of-the-traditional-thief/
 
The plant-based vegan push is doomed to fail since it makes people sick fast, so they do the second best - giving you a more nutritious but far more disgusting option. The lab-grown meat is also something like that. All those "alternatives" can be easily produced by giant corporations while healthy chicken, pigs and cows can't.

Plus - I doubt that the mass-eating of insects will be as good for our health. No human society has as of yet predominantly survived on insects even if their raising is relatively easy and the ancient Romans or Chinese could have done it. Their slaves were not given that diet, but were fed vegetarian diets. I am sure that they experimented with it, but found it not viable long-term.

The food likely will be ground into protein and purified, so that you don't get sick so easily.

My estimate is that they will make real meat, fish and dairy very expensive, second best will be half-products. Then will be the lab-grown meat and then at the bottom of the price-scale the bug-crap. Vegetables and grains will be cheap as well since they will be able do it in the future almost without any manual labor. And when the life-expectancy goes down to 70 everywhere, then they will claim that it's caused by Playstations and TV-sets and that we don't know.
 

Beyond Borders

Peacock
Gold Member
JohnKreese said:
Even on the dystopian "Snowpiercer" train, the dregs of society were horrified at the realization that they were eating bugs


No thanks
lol You mean the liberal propaganda hatchet job, Snowpiercer?

I saw that mentioned on here years ago in the movie thread and thought it looked alright. Finally sat down and watched it a couple weeks.

I've seen few more ridiculous movies in my life and it was about as blatantly liberal worldview as they come.

Just saying.

As far as the "dregs of society" being horrified, they were horrified because the audience would be horrified. It's a movie and the point is to create an experience.
 

Al O'Peesha

Sparrow
Save the planet. Eat scrambled eggs from caged hens with a splash of worm fat, flown in from Africa...

It's surely only a matter of time before CNN do a piece on eating rats. There's an abundance of them, they breed fast and they are a great source of protein, after all.

Two other thoughts:

- Excuse my ignorance, but if insects are such a cheap, fast-growing and efficient source of protein, why do they cost so much? Genuine question. I suspect that it's down to a current lack of competition in the market;

- How much vermin debris is actually present in pizza, chocolate, etc., as opposed to the FDA's (presumably) legal boundaries?
 

Handsome Creepy Eel

Owl
Gold Member
Simeon brings up a great point above: if insects are so great, tasty, nutritious, healthy and practically grow themselves - why hasn't some civilization farmed them en masse and outperformed all other civilizations with its endless supply of superior food?
 
The idea of eating critters repulses the average human being.

Idk if it's due to toxicity or diseases (probably the latter due to unclean living environments) but humans didn't evolve with ingrained fear and revulsion for a reason.

Feces and filthy people repulse you because they transmit diseases.

Snakes repulse you because they are dangerous.

Maggots because they feast on toxic corpses.
 

Easy_C

Crow
I suspect there’s also a profit motive. They’ve figured out that crickets can probably be sold for a much higher margin than beef can and would like to shift things in that direction.

To be fair it isn’t a universal equation. Crickets being good to eat is nutritionally sound. Other bugs, not so much.


The only first world culture I’m aware of that eats them much is Japan: oxu6yTyjXeI
 

questor70

Ostrich
Humans are adaptable creatures. When change happens gradually, each succeeding generation accepts the way things are as the new normal. It's the old who suffer the most because they remember "The good old days". For instance, Tolkien wrote Lord of the Rings mostly out of nostalgia for a pastoral England that he felt had been lost to industrialization. That kind of nostalgia was way before my time but I'm old enough to register negative changes of my own, like the gentrification in my suburban hometown and how the world feels increasingly crowded, polluted, noisy. Products are flimsier. People are trashier, ruder, etc...

Point being that as implausible as it may be to eat bugs today, it may come time when it becomes the new normal, and even soylent green (where people know where it comes from). All this because change happens gradually and because as each generation comes of age, they can't mourn what they never personally experienced.

If you actually look at the broad tapestry, there's one and only one universal constant, which is overpopulation. Due to the change in the forum, it might not be welcome to suggest that the population of the world is unsustainable, but articles like this are canaries in the coal mine. Journalists these days feel they operate on behalf of the public good, like quasi-activists. So they are going to seek out stories that they think illustrate how we might get by if the population keeps doubling, because you're not going to feed such a population on grass-fed beef and free-range chicken, that's for damn sure. Infinite growth on a finite planet is impossible. You can pretend it is all you like but eventually you'll look around and see how much of a cesspool the planet has become and won't be able to blame it on anything (or anybody) else anymore.

 

Johnnyvee

Pelican
Handsome Creepy Eel said:
Simeon brings up a great point above: if insects are so great, tasty, nutritious, healthy and practically grow themselves - why hasn't some civilization farmed them en masse and outperformed all other civilizations with its endless supply of superior food?
This is a great point. Insects are in fact very poor nutritional sources. Hard (and dangerous maybe) to gather in appreciable amounts for a larger animal. Low in fat/energy. Possibly toxic also. Very high protein is not good per se, and there`s also the amino acid ratios and tons of other things that might be different from say meat. What about minerals and vitamins and fatty acids and other molecules? The effect on gut flora and bioavailability? Meat is not just a slab of "stuff," there`s a lot to the biochemistry of it.

Also, the "we are already eating it" argument is beyond stupid. First of all it`s tiny amounts. And you might as well say that we`re already eating pesticides, so why not base our diet on that.

They should maybe read the new study from Oxford IPCC scientist, that conclude that ruminant agriculture can reduce methane emissions. That`s not even considering regenerative agriculture that could act as a net CO2 and methane sink. https://www.bva.co.uk/news-campaign...0ia_ur-3yYrAEO60kVflBHdKmCW8CtteyaAd0GXMEPYRM
 
Personally, bring on the grasshoppers and wild honey.

Leviticus 11:21-22 (NRSV)

21 "But among the winged insects that walk on all fours you may eat those that have jointed legs above their feet, with which to leap on the ground. 22 Of them you may eat: the locust according to its kind, the bald locust according to its kind, the cricket according to its kind, and the grasshopper according to its kind."
 

Roosh

Cardinal
They still want you to eat bugs:

It’s time to bug out. Literally.

Global warming and drastic climate change are wreaking havoc on our planet, thanks in part to a growing global population that relies on animals (especially in the developed world) for its protein.

Animal farming has unduly contributed to greenhouse gasses, deforestation in the Amazon and African rainforests and, according to the Guardian, “farming uses up to 92% of our freshwater, with nearly one-third of that related to animal products.”

And then there’s the coronavirus, which experts think was spawned in a filthy “wet market” in Wuhan, China, that sold bats, birds, endangered pangolins — and other animals that can carry and transmit diseases.
https://nypost.com/2020/02/29/i-tas...ustainable-protein-that-could-save-the-world/
 
The interesting part is that crop farming uses huge amounts of water, but animal husbandry very little as they re-use rainwater and grassfed ones has close to zero needs. They recently published a few articles being "astonished" that crop agriculture uses much much more water - like 500%+ more than advertised.

They want you to eat bugs for sure, but I doubt that we humans would do well on those long-term. No human tribe in history has ever eaten bugs which are filled with ingredients like insect exoskeletons.

And let us better forget what China eats - those buggers should stop eating dogs, cats, bats and live mice. It's more a strange gimmick of theirs than real logic or culinary needs.
 

la bodhisattva

Kingfisher
Eating insects aside is it not a rather accepted practice across time and cultures that you typically don't eat carnivores? Kill a bear and open him up to see the difference between it and a deer. The amount of parasites is absolutely revolting. It's not a coincidence that every God-forsaken disease outbreak comes from areas with ridiculous diets of eating everything that moves.
 

Hannibal

Ostrich
Gold Member
Bugs are trash food.

With every gram of protein, you get fiber.

Fiber is to the human body what hair clippings are to drain pipes.

The ratio of protein to fat is workable but not great, about 50/50.
 

Hypno

Crow
911 said:
Bugs are a great solution for feeding fowl and certain aquaculture products instead of many current industrial feeds. You could for example get better tasting, healthier eggs from chicken on a mixed bug and grain diet, which is closer to their natural diet.

Of course that's not what is advocated here.
I have a friend who feeds her table scraps to her chickens. They can't eat all of it, but what they don't eat draws bugs, and then the chickens eat the bugs.
 
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