Economic effects of the Russo-Ukrainian War

TruckDriver9

Hummingbird

911

Owl
Catholic
Gold Member
What a coincidence


That era started out with a bang (well two actually).
 

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
What a coincidence



I wonder if this pipeline will be able to remain intact after the Nordstream pipelines being hit? I suspect not!
 

Belgrano

Hummingbird
Gold Member


Who Will Rid Me of This Meddlesome Pipeline?

Sometimes it takes a little while, but the Corner gets results, even in matters of geopolitical energy. Way back in February 22, under the headline, “Nice New Pipeline You’ve Got There. Shame If Something Happened to It,” I wrote of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline:

"Still, halting the certification process is a temporary stop; the pipeline is still there, constructed, waiting to be used. It is not difficult to envision a scenario where the German government finds some excuse to reopen the certification process and start using the pipeline, after issuing the appropriate pro forma objections to Putin’s actions. Up until very recently, the German government didn’t seem all that troubled by the thought of a Russian invasion of Ukraine. And as Elliott Abrams laid out, the two most recent German chancellors, Gerhard Schröder and Angela Merkel put a lot of political capital into the Nord Stream 2 project.

Of course, if something happened to make the Nord Stream 2 pipeline unusable, it is a different story. Hey, what is Andreas Malm doing these days? Where are those eco-radicals when we really need them?"

Who will rid me of this meddlesome pipeline? Sounds like someone listened!

"Europe was racing on Tuesday to investigate possible sabotage behind sudden and unexplained leaks in two Russian gas pipelines under the Baltic Sea, infrastructure at the heart of an energy crisis since Russia invaded Ukraine.

Poland’s Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said the leaks were caused by sabotage, while Denmark’s prime minister and Russia, which slashed its gas deliveries to Europe after Western sanctions, said it could not be ruled out. But who might be behind any foul play, if proven, and a motive were far from clear.

Sweden’s Maritime Authority issued a warning about two leaks in the Nord Stream 1 pipeline, the day after a leak on the nearby Nord Stream 2 pipeline was discovered that prompted Denmark to restrict shipping and impose a small no fly zone. . . .

Denmark’s Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said sabotage could not be ruled out. “We are talking about three leaks with some distance between them, and that’s why it is hard to imagine that it is a coincidence,” she said.

A second European source, when asked if there was specific intelligence indicating sabotage, said: “Not specific yet, but it seems this pressure failure can only happen when a pipe is completely cut. Which pretty much says it all.”

Three leaks in two days? Wow, that’s a shame! Sounds like the pipeline’s falling apart and just won’t be a reliable way to get natural gas from Russia to Germany. I guess hopes of Germany and Russia eventually putting aside their differences over the invasion of Ukraine and reestablishing long-term German dependence on Russian energy just won’t happen for the foreseeable future. Just terrible luck for Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin, who clearly thought a cold winter with limited energy supplies would make Germany and other European countries come crawling back to the negotiating table.

Just about anyone could have cut the pipeline, but whoever it was, they wanted to make sure the Nord Stream pipelines would not be an option for a long time.
 

budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member


@bidetmarxman thread continue
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One of the two possibilities involves Russia destroying their best source of economic negotiation leverage with the EU.

Do not let the lack of any sane motivation for Russia to do this dissuade you from considering this very real possibility!
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It should of course be abundantly clear that speculating about a 3rd potential saboteur that benefits immensely from a subservient EU reliant on LNG imports is nothing but a ridiculous conspiracy theory.
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Look if there was a singular country frantically working behind the scenes to put the kibosh on this pipeline since its inception, they’d be the obvious #1 suspect.

Unfortunately, no such villain exists!
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8ball

Pelican
Catholic
Reddit seems convinced Putin did it. There's a number of responses all over with people asking "why would he blow them up when when he could just turn it off"? and people either don't have an answer, say "Because Putin's crazy", or come up with theories that it's Russia trying to stage a false flag.

Nothing good can come from viewing or participating in reddit threads, its a reminder of our catastrophic education system, on the same line as videos on the street asking random people questions like “how many states make up the US”, in fact i would say worse, the people on those street videos recognize their ignorance while the reddit crowd are your average IQ keyboard warriors who are convinced of their profound knowledge and wisdom.
 

TCOCBR18

Robin
Orthodox
Nothing good can come from viewing or participating in reddit threads, its a reminder of our catastrophic education system, on the same line as videos on the street asking random people questions like “how many states make up the US”, in fact i would say worse, the people on those street videos recognize their ignorance while the reddit crowd are your average IQ keyboard warriors who are convinced of their profound knowledge and wisdom.
It's way worse. Simply being ignorant of a widely-known piece of information is one thing, being a fully committed representative of Liberal Modernity devoted to disseminating propaganda is another.
 
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