"Empire" star hospitalized in alleged hate crime
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I can't imagine that I'm the only person on the forum that thinks faking hate crimes should carry a penalty equal to being convicted of a hatecrime, just as false rape allegations should be punishable by the same metric.
Arguably falsifying hate crimes should actually be punished even more harshly still, because while a fake rape allegation can destroy a single life a fake hate-crime allegation tears at the fabric of the entire nation.
Arguably falsifying hate crimes should actually be punished even more harshly still, because while a fake rape allegation can destroy a single life a fake hate-crime allegation tears at the fabric of the entire nation.
Sam Malone said:
Essentially the sentiment I was going to posit.
Is all this drama a thing cause it's actually important? Or merely cause the fop is from Hollowood?
Jetset
Ostrich
Dr Mantis Toboggan said:
Why can't he just trip and fall while chasing a scam artist after walking his dog through a park known for late night gay trysts like everybody else?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-300673/Spacey-comes-clean-mugging.html
Mr. Wolf
Robin
Now he's refusing to let the police see what's on his phone. I wouldn't do that either, but then I try to avoid interacting with the police whenever possible.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ilmed-in-lobby-after-attack-appearing-normal/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ilmed-in-lobby-after-attack-appearing-normal/
Jetset
Ostrich
Leonard D Neubache said:
Years ago, we had a news story in the American northeast where a police officer stabbed himself. He claimed he had been attacked by two black males, but it quickly became apparent that his life was falling apart and that he was trying to collect his retirement benefits.
He was acquitted in local court, but convicted of numerous counts of postal fraud at the federal level for sending the paperwork through the mail. He got a few years in federal prison and was slapped for $90,000 in restitution, the value of the benefits he received.
In the United States, criminal restitution can't be cleared in bankruptcy. It seems to me that if prosecutors started could make proven false accusers repay the costs of the investigations they demanded, quite a bit of this would dry up.
Mr. Wolf said:
This link is a great find. But you left out the best part. The second half of the headline says: "Was Filmed in Lobby After ‘Attack” Appearing Normal."
The story goes on to say:
Jessie Smollett said he was assaulted and suffered a cracked rib but condo surveillance video shows Smollett walking past security to the elevator. Without telling them he had just been attacked by thugs who “beat the hell out of him” and “broke his ribs.”
He then said he was "talking to his manager" during the assault but won't turn over his phone. His manager is saying he overheard the assault and this is why cops want the phone -- to see if he was really talking to his manager.
I agree that you avoid cops whenever possible. "Getting involved" = asking for trouble, since the job of cops and prosecutors seems to be to put as many men behind bars as possible, whatever the reason.
But...if you're the one that goes to the police to begin with and they spend days doing a manhunt, perhaps it's then incumbent upon you to help them out. You already got involved by that point.
Jetset said:
It's all a big, steaming pile of "FWIW" these days.
I'm trying to remove the word "should" from my vocabulary and replace it in sentences with "will" or "will not", the latter of those two being far more applicable than the former. All the better to cut through the bullshit and stop trying to polish this turd that we still have the audacity to call Western Civilization.
Is it Western Civilization simply by virtue of being a civilization in the west? At what point does it cease to be a continuation of what came before it? I honestly don't know how to approach this basic and fundamental question any more. If aliens dropped their mother ship directly on top of our parts of the planet and allowed us to live within their insectoid tunnels would it still be Western Civilisation just because the ruins of it laid underneath us in rubble?
As far as hoaxes go, this is a pretty low IQ, very dumb one.
Colin Flaherty has done a remarkable job documenting the culture of victimhood and violence that has plagued urban Black America since the 1970s, including white on black hate crime hoaxes.
very extensive playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWVh98WpUeP1ULMRUkrZeV_kM5ihXilw3
An introduction to his work with his recent interview by the excellent Tim Kelly:
Colin Flaherty has done a remarkable job documenting the culture of victimhood and violence that has plagued urban Black America since the 1970s, including white on black hate crime hoaxes.
very extensive playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWVh98WpUeP1ULMRUkrZeV_kM5ihXilw3
An introduction to his work with his recent interview by the excellent Tim Kelly:
Crazy Conspiracy Theory
He could be the real anti-black racist.
Perhaps this guy was given a rough time by other black people for being gay while he was growing up and he now hates black people so he is using this hoax to exhaust police resources and distract away from the real crimes perpetrated against black people in Chicago by other black people every day. The more populous and black the city is, the greater the impact of his actions. So Chicago would be a natural choice, especially given the daily frequency of crime, if he wanted to inflict the maximum amount of damage on the largest number of people in the least amount of time.
Every day that he can keep the police and the public focused on him is a day that a dozen murders go unsolved and maybe even that a few crimes which would not have been committed are because the police are being distracted by him. Maybe his goal is to endanger and deprive of justice as many black people as he can, which is why he chose Chicago, one of the blackest and most populous cities in the country, for the staging of his fake hate crime. Maybe he is even using his manager, who thinks it is just a publicity stunt to promote Empire and is unaware of the true motive behind it.
He could be the real anti-black racist.
Perhaps this guy was given a rough time by other black people for being gay while he was growing up and he now hates black people so he is using this hoax to exhaust police resources and distract away from the real crimes perpetrated against black people in Chicago by other black people every day. The more populous and black the city is, the greater the impact of his actions. So Chicago would be a natural choice, especially given the daily frequency of crime, if he wanted to inflict the maximum amount of damage on the largest number of people in the least amount of time.
Every day that he can keep the police and the public focused on him is a day that a dozen murders go unsolved and maybe even that a few crimes which would not have been committed are because the police are being distracted by him. Maybe his goal is to endanger and deprive of justice as many black people as he can, which is why he chose Chicago, one of the blackest and most populous cities in the country, for the staging of his fake hate crime. Maybe he is even using his manager, who thinks it is just a publicity stunt to promote Empire and is unaware of the true motive behind it.
Jetset said:
There is actually a precedent for this kind of "publicity." It didn't work, but there is a precedent.
Back in 1989, a New York-based talk show host named Morton Downey, Jr. claimed he was attacked by "skinheads" in an airport bathroom. Downey was a confrontational show host who constantly got in his guests' faces, so this seemed believable. At first. When cops looked into it, it fell apart.
Eventually the consensus was that Downey faked the attack so he'd have an excuse to get dentures, because his teeth were gross from all the chain smoking he did on the show (he later died of lung cancer).
Here is a link, for anyone who wants to explore this odd rabbit hole. Along with Trump, Howard Stern, and the Beastie Boys, Downey was one of the quintessential New York characters of the '80s.
Jetset
Ostrich
Days of Broken Arrows said:
Oh, totally.
I'm just picturing some old guy smoking a cigar thinking about things that happened in the '80s.
"Yeah, that's the ticket. You got your ass kicked, tell 'em Trump supporters did it. Everybody'll love that. I'll be a witness. THIS IS GENIUS."
Police ask to see the phone.
"Huh. I did not plan ahead for that."
Scoundrel
Kingfisher
The 1989 NYT article that DOBA linked to above — "Doubt is Cast on Report of Attack on Downey" — is an incredible contrast to the modern mainstream media's handling of the Smollett case.
On Twitter, in comment sections, and forums such as this one, a great many people are casting doubt on Smollett's claims, and raising some very legitimate questions about what happened. The MSM is having none of it. Check out some of the headlines from major sources:
Assault on 'Empire' actor Jussie Smollett serves as a reminder — lynching, noose symbolism are still prevalent (USA Today)
The Jussie Smollett attack highlights the hate black gay Americans face (Washington Post)
Jussie Smollett’s Attack Is A Reminder That All Black Lives Have To Matter (Essence Magazine)
The Jussie Smollett attack is so personal for black LGBT people because we know it could have been any of us (NBC News)
The Jussie Smollett attack, and the reality of being black and gay in America (NY Daily News)
Curiously, there hasn't been a peep from Smollett himself about the incident. He doesn't seem to have been badly hurt — it's not as though he's lying in a hospital bed in a coma. So why the silence? And why doesn't the mainstream media seem to think this is strange?
On Twitter, in comment sections, and forums such as this one, a great many people are casting doubt on Smollett's claims, and raising some very legitimate questions about what happened. The MSM is having none of it. Check out some of the headlines from major sources:
Assault on 'Empire' actor Jussie Smollett serves as a reminder — lynching, noose symbolism are still prevalent (USA Today)
The Jussie Smollett attack highlights the hate black gay Americans face (Washington Post)
Jussie Smollett’s Attack Is A Reminder That All Black Lives Have To Matter (Essence Magazine)
The Jussie Smollett attack is so personal for black LGBT people because we know it could have been any of us (NBC News)
The Jussie Smollett attack, and the reality of being black and gay in America (NY Daily News)
Curiously, there hasn't been a peep from Smollett himself about the incident. He doesn't seem to have been badly hurt — it's not as though he's lying in a hospital bed in a coma. So why the silence? And why doesn't the mainstream media seem to think this is strange?
Jetset
Ostrich
bbgun said:
Could I picture a couple of good ole' boys deciding to beat up a gay black man?
Yeah. It's not something that's going to happen much, but on the spectrum of shit two dumb assholes might do, it's on it somewhere. I can also think of a bunch of reasons a guy wouldn't hand the cops his cell phone.
Does "MAGA country" sound like something that no actual human being would say in anger and that this guy made up after the fact because he realized his story wasn't sounding media-friendly enough yet?
100%. Also, what is with the reporting that he still had the rope around his neck when the cops got there almost an hour later?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...aw-redneck-rope-outside-apartment-attack.html
I hope it turns out to be fake and that #ThisIsMAGACountry becomes a hilarious parody hash tag.
Globohomo have been pushing gay culture on Blacks, and using that so-called intersectional strand to further pummel the silent majority with. So you see people like this idiot being promoted, or homo films like Moonlight sweeping the Oscars, or an angry gay brother selected to run the BlackLives Matter psyop. "Patriarchy" sounds a lot more menacing when it's conflated with "white supremacy".