#EndFathersDay

[Biologist]

One of the tweets: "Because masculinity is nothing to be celebrated."

No wonder men are so fucked. By the way, this NayNayThompson woman seems fucking crazy.

Yea, it's not even 'hyper masculinity' any more. They're not saying people have the wrong sort of masculinity. They're attacking it all.

Lunatic fringes at the end of the day, but they are a concentration of a general trend of feeling in the West.

And ironically, masculinity is what attracts women to men.

Most women these days are in a really conflicting situation when they see a very masculine man - on one hand, her brain is telling her that his masculinity is oppressive, patriarchal and wrong, and on the other hand her 'gina is tingling at the prospect of being dominated by a strong, masculine man.

 

[Truth Teller]

...and on the other hand her 'gina is tingling at the prospect of being dominated by a strong, masculine man.

That's why stuff like 50 Shades of Grey and rape fantasies are so powerful. They don't want to be raped. They want to be dominated by a masculine man who's unapologetic about what he wants. Hell, it's why direct game works. Of course, in order to be direct, you have to carry yourself well. You have to have good tonality. It also helps if you're decent looking.

 

[soup]

I think they want to feel that if you decided to, you could easily control them.

It's funny that girls complain about being used as sex objects, but they use alpha guys as roller coaster rides all the time.

The difference is that we don't bitch about this impersonal thing.. At least some of us here don't haha

 

[Days of Broken Arrows]

The grand prize article has to go to the National Review. It's by "intern" Molly Wharton who reports this in her headline:

"#EndFathersDay Tweets Seek to Stop Misogynistic Celebration
A moderately popular holiday honors rape, child abuse, patriarchy, and more."

National Review is a conservative publication, but I don't think this writer is in on the joke. She is matter-of-factly reporting this stuff. She posts those hilarious "NayNayCan'tStop" Tweets as if they're for real.

I'd post the copy, but the article and Tweets she singled out have to be read to be believed:

http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...k-stop-misogynistic-celebration-molly-wharton

One of the tweets: "Because masculinity is nothing to be celebrated."

No wonder men are so fucked. By the way, this NayNayThompson woman seems fucking crazy.

FYI: NayNay Thompson (i.e. NayNayCantStop) is a parody account. Look at the whole thing. It's hilarious. The "poetry" is making me laugh out loud:

"I heard the echo
Now there's silence
Wherever men go
There's also violence"
#Poetry #EndFathersDay

Anyway, the reason this is funny is because it's so close to the real thing. Hashtag feminism and the brand of feminism that gave us terms like "cisgendered" and "intersectional" is so ridiculous that people can't tell the real thing from satire anymore.

"Not all fathers are like that."
--Fathers who are like that.
#EndFathersDay

Hahahahahahaha.

 

[Lizard King]

Nay Nay Thompson is an excellent troll.

 

[The Beast1]

Maybe satire is more effective than coming up with honest forward stating arguments. Make them blow themselves apart from within by inciting the more radical elements of the group.

 

[J DOE]

#EndFathersDay may have been a troll job, but check this out: https://twitter.com/hashtag/FeministFathersDay?src=hash

#FeministFathersDay is a real thing. The white knight fags are all about it

 

[Walderschmidt]

Maybe satire is more effective than coming up with honest forward stating arguments. Make them blow themselves apart from within by inciting the more radical elements of the group.

Satire is a weapon against which they have no defense but to soften their rhetoric.

Will they ever do that?

Nope.

They'll double down and make satire more effective.

Wald

 

[Jaydublin]

They are turning fathers day in single mothers day from what I am noticing. I have seen half as many shout outs to single moms as shout outs to fathers.

 

[cooledcannon]

Maybe satire is more effective than coming up with honest forward stating arguments. Make them blow themselves apart from within by inciting the more radical elements of the group.

Satire is a weapon against which they have no defense but to soften their rhetoric.

Will they ever do that?

Nope.

They'll double down and make satire more effective.

Wald

The bad thing about satire is if people believe your satire is true, it would almost always be far worse than if people only just believed what your satirizing(because your satire is a worse/more extreme version). As the saying goes, "no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the american people", so you will have to be careful.

I prefer the safe option of calling out shitty arguments and saying what is logically better, despite that it might seem very obvious. Its only in private that I might enjoy sneaky obscure parodies with only those in the know, so we can all feel happy in our cleverness and enlightenment. But even then Im not a big fan of satire as it relies on stupidity/evilness both of which I dislike thinking about.

 

[agentaika]

The trick is to create something credible within their frame but ridiculous to the reasonable person.

Maybe satire is more effective than coming up with honest forward stating arguments. Make them blow themselves apart from within by inciting the more radical elements of the group.

Satire is a weapon against which they have no defense but to soften their rhetoric.

That's exactly what I've been trying to argue in this thread.

Here's the hippocracy- the left says they are all about celebrating the fact that everyone is different, yet the greatest difference of all, gender, is considered to be an abomination.

You make some great points.

I'd like to add a few thoughts on why they need to eliminate gender:

1. To discredit the science which shows they're physically and intellectually inferior to men.
2. To fully embrace intersectionalism in the hopes of dispelling their whiny, privileged, white women image. I doubt most of them really care about people of color or trannies, but they need to appear as if they do to further their agenda.
3. Gender roles are patriarchal (obviously).

And ironically, masculinity is what attracts women to men.

Most women these days are in a really conflicting situation when they see a very masculine man - on one hand, her brain is telling her that his masculinity is oppressive, patriarchal and wrong, and on the other hand her 'gina is tingling at the prospect of being dominated by a strong, masculine man.

Hahaha! This may be why it's so easy for something to make them feel "uncomfortable." Their discomfort is just them getting turned on by something they don't want turning them on. They're fighting a war against their own biology.

I prefer the safe option of calling out shitty arguments and saying what is logically better, despite that it might seem very obvious.

But satire is funnier, and has wider appeal because it's funny.

 

[Feisbook Control]

Maybe satire is more effective than coming up with honest forward stating arguments. Make them blow themselves apart from within by inciting the more radical elements of the group.

Satire is a weapon against which they have no defense but to soften their rhetoric.

Will they ever do that?

Nope.

They'll double down and make satire more effective.

Wald

The bad thing about satire is if people believe your satire is true, it would almost always be far worse than if people only just believed what your satirizing(because your satire is a worse/more extreme version). As the saying goes, "no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the american people", so you will have to be careful.

I prefer the safe option of calling out shitty arguments and saying what is logically better, despite that it might seem very obvious. Its only in private that I might enjoy sneaky obscure parodies with only those in the know, so we can all feel happy in our cleverness and enlightenment. But even then Im not a big fan of satire as it relies on stupidity/evilness both of which I dislike thinking about.

This is more of the same losing strategy though. The "right" has been taking this approach in the Culture Wars for the past fifty years. It's an approach that assumes 1) everyone is logical/rational, 2) everyone else argues in good faith. If either of those two conditions does not hold, then you're setting yourself up for failure. It seems analogous in someways to rational market theory. The guy who plays by the rules when everyone else ignores them is not noble, he's just a sucker.

What's Einstein's famous quote about repeating the same thing and expecting a different outcome? Time for a reassessment of strategy. I say either exit/starve the beast or start fighting fire with fire. Maybe both.

What is it about people like Andrew Breitbart or the general right wing media that annoys liberals? Is it that they are correct? I don't think so (because they put spin on things, too). Their criticisms are always of an emotional kind: the right spins the truth, the right appeals to emotionalism or ignorance, etc. Those are all standard operating procedures for the left. I think what really annoys the left is that people like Andrew Breitbart cottoned onto this and began playing the same games as liberals. Liberals think that's not fair, that the right should just pony up with the same losing strategy again and again.

 

[cooledcannon]

The bad thing about satire is if people believe your satire is true, it would almost always be far worse than if people only just believed what your satirizing(because your satire is a worse/more extreme version). As the saying goes, "no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the american people", so you will have to be careful.

I prefer the safe option of calling out shitty arguments and saying what is logically better, despite that it might seem very obvious. Its only in private that I might enjoy sneaky obscure parodies with only those in the know, so we can all feel happy in our cleverness and enlightenment. But even then Im not a big fan of satire as it relies on stupidity/evilness both of which I dislike thinking about.

This is more of the same losing strategy though. The "right" has been taking this approach in the Culture Wars for the past fifty years. It's an approach that assumes 1) everyone is logical/rational, 2) everyone else argues in good faith. If either of those two conditions does not hold, then you're setting yourself up for failure. It seems analogous in someways to rational market theory. The guy who plays by the rules when everyone else ignores them is not noble, he's just a sucker.

What's Einstein's famous quote about repeating the same thing and expecting a different outcome? Time for a reassessment of strategy. I say either exit/starve the beast or start fighting fire with fire. Maybe both.

What is it about people like Andrew Breitbart or the general right wing media that annoys liberals? Is it that they are correct? I don't think so (because they put spin on things, too). Their criticisms are always of an emotional kind: the right spins the truth, the right appeals to emotionalism or ignorance, etc. Those are all standard operating procedures for the left. I think what really annoys the left is that people like Andrew Breitbart cottoned onto this and began playing the same games as liberals. Liberals think that's not fair, that the right should just pony up with the same losing strategy again and again.

Its not about "playing dirty" or "being noble" or w/e. Basically, you cannot trust people to know you are joking. You also cannot underestimate how merely exposing people to ideas(even as a joke) makes them more susceptible to them, because it affects their subconscious. You have to make them think positive(redpill) and not think negative(extreme feminism), or it can backfire hugely.

>This is more of the same losing strategy though. The "right" has been taking this approach in the Culture Wars for the past fifty years.

Thats because the vast majority of the "right"(like most people) are almost completely retarded. They wouldnt even know what was moral and why feminism is bad etc let alone be able to fight for it. Its a losing battle so you can only salvage the misinformed/ignorant, not the retarded. Well you can, you just have to kill the evil people promoting this(as part of the new world order/illuminati) and brainwashing everyone... but that will be too difficult.

 

[Days of Broken Arrows]

I love the satire.

On a more serious note, has anyone read about #BanFlushing?

It's a campaign that says making girls flush the toilet is a form of oppression because they need to grow up thinking their shit doesn't stink. Unlike a lot of feminist drivel, I agree with this one -- and I hope you all do as well.

If I was rearing a daughter, I'd want her to stand proud after she takes a crap in the toilet and not have to hang her head in shame and (gasp!) flush away the unique creation that came out of her body. Shaming girls for bowel movements is the first step to force them into lives of constipation, enemas, diarrhea, Ex-Lax, etc. Lots of feminist writers have compared the patriarchy to a gigantic sewage system and women should not voluntarily have to be part of that.

Perhaps the RVF can get behind this one. It's definitely not a load of crap.

 

[Slick Shimmer]

Wrong thread!

 

[Redwood]

Cuntastic.

 

[kbell]

I have heard ads for Dads and Grads for fathers day. Why can't grads get a different day?

So what are your favorite tweets from the hashtag?

 

[agentaika]

Looks like they're been using #YourSlipIsShowing to call out the trolls.

"Had to block maybe 75 accounts from the plants, ahem I mean 4chan, posing as WoC feminists online."
https://twitter.com/thetrudz/status/478556484024819712

Hahaha! There are a lot of them!

"Check: large follower count in short period, fake profile photo (use TinEye), no "Joined" date on profile, if following other fake accts."
https://twitter.com/thetrudz/status/478567904376410112

"If new acct contacts, see who they follow. If it's *immediately* me, Suey, Karn, BD, Blackamazon, Feminista, Chief etc, do further research."
https://twitter.com/thetrudz/status/478568399614652417

Hopefully 4chan can adapt to using private lists. They're better than direct follows for these people.

 

[runsonmagic]

Let's troll #YourSlipIsShowing.

I'm pretty sure Lindy West is a troll account. I mean, no one could be that repulsive for real, right?

 

[Days of Broken Arrows]

The #yourslipisshowing hashtag seems to have worked.

And it looks like Twitter is going the way of Facebook, banning anyone who isn't politically correct and/or a "troll." Who is to say trolling isn't a legitimate form of social criticism?

The NayNay Thompson account was suspended and the Sarah All Inclusive one is gone.

These were both trolls, but really hilarious. You can go to the cache pages to see what they were up to. I wonder what it takes to get Twitter to ban you? This is getting tiresome.

That said, the Imani Raven Richards account is still going strong, which is odd because it's a satire of radical black activists, not so much feminists. The latest hashtag is #youaintwhiteif. One of the Tweets from the account is "YouAintWhiteIf you have a penis longer than 3 inches." Haha.