Entitled interns fired for demanding dress code change at their employer
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fired_intern
Chicken
Wow.
I'm the guy who wrote into the blogger about getting fired from my internship. I've read here before and agreed with lots of the stuff. I can't believe no one supports what I did. It wasn't even just about the shoes, I didn't want to wear a suit and tie every day. This place is anti-establishment and that's what I was trying to do.
Proof (not trolling) of the emails I sent to the blogger and the reply I got: http://imgur[dot]com/FUZjguZ,QkyuJ2r,Qej3iKU
I'm the guy who wrote into the blogger about getting fired from my internship. I've read here before and agreed with lots of the stuff. I can't believe no one supports what I did. It wasn't even just about the shoes, I didn't want to wear a suit and tie every day. This place is anti-establishment and that's what I was trying to do.
Proof (not trolling) of the emails I sent to the blogger and the reply I got: http://imgur[dot]com/FUZjguZ,QkyuJ2r,Qej3iKU
Liberty Sea
Pelican
fired_intern said:
Suppose you're real.
My question would be the same as the what askamanager asked:
Please inform us more about your situation.
porscheguy
Ostrich
Assuming you're not lying, how old are you? 12? We may be anti establishment, but we're also adults. If I go to work somewhere, I play by their rules. Most of the time, being an adult means you shut your pie hole and you do your job according to the rules set forth. You don't want to wear a suit and tie, find somewhere else to work. I've got news for you. The world doesn't work the way your liberal arts school professors tell you.fired_intern said:
RatInTheWoods said:
"Well I'm sorry, but there's just no way that we can keep you on."
"But I don't really even work here anyway."
"That's what makes this so difficult."
fired_intern said:
What you fail to realize is this: it is not about you.
You say you were trying to be anti establishment. What for? Was the A/C too hot for a suit and tie? Did you have to walk miles and miles during the course of your day? Perform awkward physical movements? You aren't there to make the company a kinder, gentler, more welcoming place. You are there to improve the company's bottom line, or in your specific instance sponge as much knowledge and experience from the company veterans while concurrently expanding your network as widely humanly possible. Instead you decided to embark on a crusade against the good order and discipline of the company, you attempted a coup and failed.
As an aside, it matters not if you were in the right or in the wrong. You got fired, get over it, learn from it, and keep it moving. THAT is what matters, THAT is what success is about, THAT is what this place is about.
spokepoker
Hummingbird
Wait a minute. I thought this was a girl the whole time.
A guy complained about the dress code?
The world today...
A guy complained about the dress code?
The world today...
fired_intern said:
I think this thread needs to go in a new direction.
We need to celebrate heroes like this man here, and the best way to do it is with a full budget Hollywood drama detailing this epic struggle for basic human rights against crushing corporate conformism.
I'm fielding ideas for the title.
So far I've got:
The intern in striped pyjamas
Not without my flip-flops
Gone with the windbreaker
A manbag for all seasons
The adventures of Robin Hoodie
Anyone else want to take a crack?
spokepoker
Hummingbird
Adventures in Babysitting
fired_intern said:
IMO, this example shows a mindset split in the forum.
On one hand, you've got guys with a Gorilla Mindset, who realize that the only thing they can control are their individual selves. They get what they want because they work for it, and are here to share tips on how to do that.
But, on the other hand, you've also got guys who insist or imply that everyone else (society) change for them (who wouldn't want this?). Sometimes these guys even shoot themselves in the foot for it, as in this example. Regardless, without power, these guys - surprisingly - don't get what they want.
fired_intern said:
Score, this is exactly what we needed!
First off, nothing you did was "anti-establishment". Bitch like maybe, but not fighting the power. Who the hell writes up petitions? Being anti establishment means bucking the current social order of the day. IE not being PC, not cowtowing to women, and especially standing up against family destroying agendas.
Second off, if you truly read this forum and embodied it's principles you would have noticed that having a wearing well fitted custom suits is the height of male fashion and something every member aspires to have. We have a member called Suits FFS. So you're required to wear a suit and tie, why not get a garishly colored suit and tie? Red blazer, blue tie, hilariously colored socks, etc. Push the line but never cross it.
Here are two lessons for you to walk away with:
Petitions are for pussies and you are one for " organizing" it.
As an intern and employee for the first three years, you have no power and no one cares about what you think.
You want to dress like Zuckerberg slob? Start your own company.
Easy_C
Peacock
Notice something else that is completely typical of the millenial mindset and provides an interesting insight into human psychology in general.
They think that wearing a suit is "establishment" and that not wearing a suit is "anti-establishment".
In reality the two have jack shit to do with each other, and making that statement implies that they value pandering over substance. Some of the most effective anti-establishment people in the world dress fabulously, while there are plenty of establishment people (Zuck) who dress like slobs.
I've been able to use this to my advantage. I re-posted one of the "Pride" videos in my classes social media and got a lot of compliments from people who said things like "We need more people as tolerant as you!" while I was laughing my way home because I've routinely defended business owners prosecuted for refusing to do business on my social media accounts. I'm definitely NOT one of them but they react more strongly to the pandering than to what I actually say and think.
They think that wearing a suit is "establishment" and that not wearing a suit is "anti-establishment".
In reality the two have jack shit to do with each other, and making that statement implies that they value pandering over substance. Some of the most effective anti-establishment people in the world dress fabulously, while there are plenty of establishment people (Zuck) who dress like slobs.
I've been able to use this to my advantage. I re-posted one of the "Pride" videos in my classes social media and got a lot of compliments from people who said things like "We need more people as tolerant as you!" while I was laughing my way home because I've routinely defended business owners prosecuted for refusing to do business on my social media accounts. I'm definitely NOT one of them but they react more strongly to the pandering than to what I actually say and think.
I strongly assumed that the intern that did the complaining was a woman. I'm amazed to find out it was a guy. What were you thinking? I'm assuming you are a social justice warrior. So many of the ideas that SJWs have are completely ignorant about actual patterns of human behavior. These patterns are a built in part of the human temperament.
In this case, clothing provides a form of social signaling, both within the group, and to customers and other people they interact with outside the group. There are good reasons for dress codes, and where they exist, it is foolish to fight them unless you truly understand them, and have sufficient status within the group to change the culture.
Even a high status member of a group has a high likelihood of bring ejected from the group if he tries to change the culture and is not successful. An intern will inevitable lose when trying get to change the culture in a workplace.
In this case, clothing provides a form of social signaling, both within the group, and to customers and other people they interact with outside the group. There are good reasons for dress codes, and where they exist, it is foolish to fight them unless you truly understand them, and have sufficient status within the group to change the culture.
Even a high status member of a group has a high likelihood of bring ejected from the group if he tries to change the culture and is not successful. An intern will inevitable lose when trying get to change the culture in a workplace.
Thersites
Kingfisher
fired_intern said:
There so many derogative terms I could use for you right now, but I won't. This forum is place for the betterment of men and occasional ribbing at each other. Here a lesson for the future, from one millennial to another: understand who has power and know limits of your power. As intern, you have no power or bargaining rights with employer. You are given opportunity to gain experience in real world and prove your worth. You have no say in anything, unless it something helpful or its dangerous to you and fellow workers.
This incident you created was not fighting the 'man', but proving how much a child (or women) you are acting. Following a dress code is a rule that everyone follows in life at least one time. It subtle form of discipline, which you failed horrible. At the same time, you lack situational awareness and critical thinking to ask why, does this women can wear sneakers, while I wear dress shoes.
Unless you working in Caribbean island with no A/C in summertime, your argument may have some merit, but you are not. You living in the US, with access to A/C units galore. Act like professional, suit up and do your work. The world does not cater to your whims, unless you gain enough wisdom, knowledge, and power to do so. Good luck, and get you T levels check, since the majority of us were thinking you were a girl.
American Rampage
Sparrow
fired_intern said:
:gtfo:
Get the fuck out or grow the fuck up. You do not wear a suit and tie because it is "establishment". You wear a suit and tie because you are a professional and proud of yourself.
I want to say I do have a lot of respect for the one intern who refused to sign that stupid petition. He (I assume it's a male) had enough proper upbringing and intelligence to know it's not in his best interests to align himself with a bunch of crybaby millennial SJW's in Corporate America, especially as the absolute lowest peon on the company totem pole. Assuming he's around 20 or 21, I'm impressed by that because when I was that age it would have been harder for me to not give into peer pressure to "support" the rest of the interns like that, even if I disagreed with them. Who knows - maybe he's a member of the forum.
fired_intern is definitely a troll.
The original poster on that site said she was a woman who initiated the "petition" to begin with. This 1 post troll claims to be a man who is the original submitter.
A 1 post troll who fucked up the details got your collective blood pressures up..
Come on guys this is a pretty obvious inconsistency.
A 1 post troll who fucked up the details got your collective blood pressures up..
Come on guys this is a pretty obvious inconsistency.
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