Entitled Millenial Discovers That Entry-Level Jobs Suck

[Travesty]

^ I think the future will be wonderful.

People only act crazy and fight when they don't have much to lose.

I think if you gave every poor person in the world (including Islamic terrorists) a McMansion, endless good food, a heated pool, free quick travel etc, and a connectedness to everyone they wouldn't be so angry and quick to go to war.

Also an oversaturation of education feeds the ego in a mentally materialistic way. People with extensive educations whether they are economically worthless or not are less likely to join the military or want to fight in a war. They don't want to risk what they perceive as a huge investment to do something that doesn't need a formal education and so on.

Education whether a bullshit one or not makes populations more docile overall. We just need to export our bullshit into Africa and the ME ASAP.

Western civilization culture has downsides for men's relationships with women. Otherwise it actually is the perfect solution to make the world peaceful as we have seen it makes men less aggressive.

In some ways the Japanese herbivore and Western manlet problem is somewhat a good thing. When you give men enough distractions:

- Craft Beers (the biggest problem manlets have!)
- Video Games
- Pot
- EDM
- MDMA
- Internet Memes
- New Phones
- Hot Pockets
- Porn (soon to be Sex Robots)
- Chipotle

While our list looks like this:
- Tinder sluts
- Custom suits (why would we want to lose these we worked so hard for?)
- That dope apartment with the best logistics for bitches in town
- Protein powder & Steak

It is hard for them to physically rebel. They have too many needs met.

World wide this will create peace.

Humans are so fucking materialistic, when they have all the materials wanted they don't want to risk losing them.

I think the next 20 years will be rough as people don't have much spare spending money outside of their smart phone and computers. However I predict they will be sated enough to make it through without getting very angry.

I think 40+ years is when universal wage will really kick in as it is so cheap and efficient to provide so much for so many.

 

[Que enspastic]

Just this very stream of thought is remarkable and something you could only expect on a forum full of intelligent men with a finger on the pulse for the future. This very conversational track would not have carried through even 3 years ago - it would have ended with "dumb bitch" back then.

People (not here) saw Obama in 2008 as able to transform the establishment with good ideals. They now realise in 2016 that it's the very system itself and not the person nominally at the helm that's at fault. It's well recognised this isn't an America problem or a Canadian problem but a First World problem that affects all countries equally. It's all the same and no one has any solutions. The Recession never went away. Low growth, an explosion of Mickey Mouse jobs, increasing debt (tuition, housing, govt pensions), automation of skilled work, worthless MBAs, 500 applicants minimum for every graduate job, this is the "new normal", not a black spot on the road to a recovery that looks like the 1990s-late 2000s status quo. That era and the general quality of life people enjoyed on the whole is over. Permanently.

 

[Easy_C]

Focusing on this one clueless individual is superficial.

The U.S. middle class is indeed being eviscerated and the elite would love you to think they deserve it for being idiots "just like this girl"

Who's popular right now ? Anyone anti-establishment : Trump, Sanders, Corbyn, UKIP, Syriza, Viktor Orben, anyone who says centrist politics is a sham bent on screwing hard working families and the young.

The middle classes are always the vanguard of revolution : American, French, Russian. The poor are always poor but when an entire generation of students become grossly indebted, struggle to find full time employment, can't buy a house in any city that has some semblance of a productive well educated workforce and can't scrape a dime for their retirement - all the while being taxed into oblivion by the demands of a retiring baby boomer generation - there will be a point at which something will snap.

Zero Hedge covers the decline, as does this site and a number of non-newspaper online sites. I am aware that hard work is key but also that things are nowhere near as cushy as they used to be and it is a dog eat dog dystopian future I need to be prepared for - not some white picket fence suburban idyll with happy smiling families and stay at home wife.

I don't care for this one idiot girl in San Francisco. I care about the economic structure that is constantly shifting and evolving year on year and the direction in which it is headed. It's not rosy. Even if you do well your countrymen are largely doomed.

The West is increasingly fucked and people are starting to catch on in large numbers

To a point. A lot of what's going on is "Brazilification" where a minority of well educated, well networked business managers, engineers, club owners, etc. do extremely well and everyone else is impoverished.

 

[Disco_Volante]

The reason these millennials will be stuck at the bottom is because the system won't fully collapse. There won't be an armed revolution by the people like ages ago, the system has enough technology and food production to keep everyone with their base needs covered, even though everything else will be shitty.

A total collapse would actually make it easier on these people, because then the answer of armed revolution, or a return to survival mode would bring clarity and purpose into their lives. Instead they'll grow older spending years on handouts or a $11/hr shit job. The threshold between an unhappy life and willingness for violent revolution will be more dense this time due to our expansive infrastructure. Also, women cannot revolt. They would need men, for example a husband, who shared their anger and struggle with them to form militias. They have thrown away this option already. They are on their own, and it will only get worse. A 26yr old single unhappy woman, still has a better situation in life than a single 36+ yr old unhappy woman. If she was smart she'd find an Indian/Chinese h1b1 tech worker and blow him regularly until he buys her a ring.

 

[TheSlayer]

GREAT FUCKING POST!

I was gonna post something but between what you posted and what QC posted earlier in this thread I don't have anything left to add.

:clap:

 

[Blaster]

You mentioned the existence of the military, as if in the absence of a standing army everyone would be too dead to buy this guy's services.

In the absence of a standing army, the US and most of western Europe would be communist states under Soviet control. Maybe our women would be hotter, but opportunities for entrepreneurship would have looked much different.

 

[samsamsam]

You mentioned the existence of the military, as if in the absence of a standing army everyone would be too dead to buy this guy's services.

In the absence of a standing army, the US and most of western Europe would be communist states under Soviet control. Maybe our women would be hotter, but opportunities for entrepreneurship would have looked much different.

The women would be hotter because they wouldn't be fat since communism lacked the incentives to develop better farming techniques and that economic system planning thing (I forget what it is called but they did a poor job planning their economy). I think there was barely enough food to survive. I think there have been certain times where there has been famine under a communist government.

 

[eatthishomie]

This has turned into an interesting discussion.

I stand by my initial assessment that this girl is an entitled shit. However, it is true that American workers are being fucked sideways. My industry is one that is rife with corruption and exploitation (unpaid internships, expectations of free work for a 10000-hour skill, ripoffs, sweatshop hours, eroding pay). It's a recipe for societal instability which is something one has to think about regardless of political stripes.

 

[Hedonist94]

A few months back I found a temp job at a distribution facility. The pay was minimum wage and the work was manual labour. I just wanted to make a few bucks over the holidays.

When I was there, I spoke to a lot of the other temps. Many of the younger guys working there had degrees in STEM subjects. I'm talking about CS, IT, Engineering, Chemistry. One of them mentioned that he'd submitted over 600 resumes and this was the only work he could find. These guys had already been out of school for a year. I didn't see any entitlement, I saw disappointment. They'd pulled their socks up, studied a useful subject and they were still pissing away in a manual labour dead end job.

I'm graduating with a math degree in a few months so I'm trying to get a job lined up. I've applied to nearly a hundred entry-level jobs, only receiving two phone interviews.

A lot of my friends are applying to grad school. I wanted to get some work experience before going down that route but I'm beginning to think this was a mistake. Even an entry level position that pays slightly above the minimum wage is highly competitive these days.

 

[CaptainS]

Even an entry level position that pays slightly above the minimum wage is highly competitive these days.

Are you still in Canada? Or are you applying in the US?

 

[kosko]

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[Easy_C]

Another one of the harsh truths: digital technology has made the traditional "job search" almost useless. Any employer who puts up an opening will get bombarded with resumes from people using a shotgun approach.

Nowadays you NEED to develop the skill of cold approaching prospective employers and gaming them.

 

[eatthishomie]

In my industry, you have to know someone who knows someone. Networking is key.

 

[Que enspastic]

Mine too. You need an "in". People want someone already vouched for by a current or former employee whom they trust to make a good call on quality control.

 

[CaptainS]

Another one of the harsh truths: digital technology has made the traditional "job search" almost useless. Any employer who puts up an opening will get bombarded with resumes from people using a shotgun approach.

Nowadays you NEED to develop the skill of cold approaching prospective employers and gaming them.

That's true. I've never gotten a job by a traditional application process.

 

[el mechanico]

Another one of the harsh truths: digital technology has made the traditional "job search" almost useless. Any employer who puts up an opening will get bombarded with resumes from people using a shotgun approach.

Nowadays you NEED to develop the skill of cold approaching prospective employers and gaming them.

That's true. I've never gotten a job by a traditional application process.

^ Good advice and true I won't hire anyone who I don't know someone in the same trade unless I know someone who's worked with them.

Everyone needs to think about this there's a very fine line to walk between owning your own business or working for someone if you're the guy that can get hired in one minute you need to run your own shit.

 

[Suits]

A few months back I found a temp job at a distribution facility. The pay was minimum wage and the work was manual labour. I just wanted to make a few bucks over the holidays.

When I was there, I spoke to a lot of the other temps. Many of the younger guys working there had degrees in STEM subjects. I'm talking about CS, IT, Engineering, Chemistry. One of them mentioned that he'd submitted over 600 resumes and this was the only work he could find. These guys had already been out of school for a year. I didn't see any entitlement, I saw disappointment. They'd pulled their socks up, studied a useful subject and they were still pissing away in a manual labour dead end job.

I'm graduating with a math degree in a few months so I'm trying to get a job lined up. I've applied to nearly a hundred entry-level jobs, only receiving two phone interviews.

A lot of my friends are applying to grad school. I wanted to get some work experience before going down that route but I'm beginning to think this was a mistake. Even an entry level position that pays slightly above the minimum wage is highly competitive these days.

Any chance that you're in Ontario?

 

[TheSlayer]

A few months back I found a temp job at a distribution facility. The pay was minimum wage and the work was manual labour. I just wanted to make a few bucks over the holidays.

When I was there, I spoke to a lot of the other temps. Many of the younger guys working there had degrees in STEM subjects. I'm talking about CS, IT, Engineering, Chemistry. One of them mentioned that he'd submitted over 600 resumes and this was the only work he could find. These guys had already been out of school for a year. I didn't see any entitlement, I saw disappointment. They'd pulled their socks up, studied a useful subject and they were still pissing away in a manual labour dead end job.

I'm graduating with a math degree in a few months so I'm trying to get a job lined up. I've applied to nearly a hundred entry-level jobs, only receiving two phone interviews.

A lot of my friends are applying to grad school. I wanted to get some work experience before going down that route but I'm beginning to think this was a mistake. Even an entry level position that pays slightly above the minimum wage is highly competitive these days.

Any chance that you're in Ontario?

Toronto (GTA) is one of the most competitive job markets in the world. I will try to find the article later but we have the most per capita university grads.

 

[Designate]

In some ways the Japanese herbivore and Western manlet problem is somewhat a good thing. When you give men enough distractions:

- Craft Beers (the biggest problem manlets have!)

G's always ahead of the times.

 

[el mechanico]

What the hell is wrong with craft beer? Moonshine could be called craft booze.