aeroektar
Pelican
What kind of militants? Are they satanic? What do they fight for? Do they drop bombs with tranny flags on them?
Escape From 'The New Normal'?
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You can go there and find out. Seriously non natives have no business in those mountains where militants are, if you dont already know the situation there especially better to stay away, especially in shtf. You will never be accepted in Georgia, but in those mountains oitsiders life is worth nothing. I rest my case.
aeroektar
Pelican
I'm not saying go to South Ossetia or whatever, but what you're describing is what the situation will look like damn near everywhere when things go off the rails. Best to get comfortable with that reality now.
Point is, that if you are an outsider, you dont want to be anywhere where you stand out as a foreigner when the SHTF (which may well be the near future). Least of all effectively a digital nomad, single, with zero roots, no language, no legal rights beyond a 90 day tourist visa. Some places better than others for this, but still.
Ultimately unless you dont fit the bill re visa, roots, language etc, you're better amongst your own, in the best local region you can find, and try and make the best of it with your own kind.
Ultimately unless you dont fit the bill re visa, roots, language etc, you're better amongst your own, in the best local region you can find, and try and make the best of it with your own kind.
Easy_C
Peacock
Part of your consideration needs to be where is and isn't going to SHTF. Switzerland? Dubai? Singapore?
Very unlikely that will happen in those places barring a natural disaster. All are commerce/travel hubs who already have locked down domestic politics but who have national business models which are contrary to implementing economic or religious totalitarianism. As long as you're not trying to be an activist they don't really care.
Very unlikely that will happen in those places barring a natural disaster. All are commerce/travel hubs who already have locked down domestic politics but who have national business models which are contrary to implementing economic or religious totalitarianism. As long as you're not trying to be an activist they don't really care.
Might not be the norm but the overall situation isn't good.
Vietnam deploys armed forces to enforce total shutdown of Ho Chi Minh City & deliver food to many of its 13mn locked-down citizens
Vietnamese authorities have dispatched the armed forces to enforce the strict lockdown in Ho Chi Minh City, the nation’s largest, with the military in place to deliver food to people and monitor movement.
I think it's a rehearsal. The impression that I'm getting from all recent news is they are planning to run martial law across the world.
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I can see this and attest to it. I visited Georgia a long time ago, I was in the mountains and thought everyone was so nice (particularly old ladies), but then out of nowhere I met a guy who really disliked me and was clearly aggressive, wanted to fight me for no reason. He just hated me for being American, probably thought I was trying to import LGBT or something to his country. I understand where they are coming from... that attitude might save them haha.
Agree. I don't know exactly what SHTF scenario entails, but I believe the west, particularly America, is going to get hit way worse than anywhere else.
Do you think this would be true even if you had a local network of like-minded expats?
Expats yes but locals probably not and I think you'd have to be married in and well understood by them to be left alone.
Where are you going to have that, other than maybe a capital city? But who wants to be there.
Beyond that, no, they wont be happy about a bunch of expats from all over buying a big chunk of land near their village, and having some sort of anti-vaxx compound. Why would they? How would it benefit their community?
This is what most people seem to be missing. The kind of places you want to go, dont want to become a destination for "conspiracy theorists" (as many would view them) and global waifs & stray. They want their communities to reflect themselves. It's a bit of a Catch22, but there you go.
Now if you are married-in, have residency, own property etc, then (still only) by degrees there will be more acceptance, but the era of drifting from one country to another, leveraging value and essentially being a consumer of global living options, is drawing to a close.
This thread's 115 pages deep, how many people have actioned anything from it? It just feels like paralysis by analysis at this point.
Good points. I do think that era is drawing to a close for varying reasons, and it may become impossible if the digital fed coin is introduced and cash made obsolete. But I'm not as pessimistic about living as a foreigner abroad, in the sense that I believe one can still be tolerated as an outsider in these communities. If things become bad everywhere, I will return to America and effectively become a prisoner. But I'd rather be outside of the prison when they lock the doors.
What are the timeframes here though?
Looking around the world, it's clear that September and October are when VaxPasses are being introduced, clearly there's going to be a wave of fake variants and Lord knows what else to justify that, which will involve lockdowns.
People in the USA, UK, Canada etc, a week towards the end of September still 'shopping around' for a location, to arrive in presumably in mid September will be arriving just as the next storm hits. You're going to be a foreigner in a land where (presumably) you dont speak the language, and you have no roots. Its quite likely you're just going to fly half way round the planet to get put under house arrest.
Now if you find a good rural spot in one of these places, then fine, why not. There's likely an abundance of the old 'hipster' AirBNB places, but still, it will effectively be a 90 day holiday without Visas etc, and one in which you will be isolated.
I dont want to discourage people. Rural Eastern Europe is a way better place to live than GloboHomo West. But realistically how can you manage any kind of long-term plan to establish roots on 3 month tourist stays? And every 90 days you burn takes you closer to the point where you cant cross borders without VaxPass etc.
People need a serious plan, or best to just stay put amongst their own IMHO.
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Isn't Switzerland a wild card?
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If you can afford to ride things out in Gstaad, you'd probably be ok, I guess.
I might be guilty of that... but as soon as things started getting weird in the UK I flew to Minsk, and now I'm hesitant to jump from as good as it gets (right now) into anything that could become a frying pan.
I would try to stay in the low vax rate Minsk over the winter. The vaxxed in Israel are getting ill, and this is in a country with insane amounts of sun and a healthy diet!