Escape From 'The New Normal'?

[ginsu]

Point is, that if you are an outsider, you dont want to be anywhere where you stand out as a foreigner when the SHTF (which may well be the near future). Least of all effectively a digital nomad, single, with zero roots, no language, no legal rights beyond a 90 day tourist visa. Some places better than others for this, but still.

Ultimately unless you dont fit the bill re visa, roots, language etc, you're better amongst your own, in the best local region you can find, and try and make the best of it with your own kind.

El Draque you are making some really good points in this thread now. Spending too much time gathering info leads to paralysis. And we will never know what its like on the ground unless we just go there. If you want to know if a place is open or if you can cross a border, simply go there and see for yourself. Things aren't as bad yet as it seems this is a result of spending too much time on the internet researching and reading conflicting opinions.

There is no crystal ball that will give 100% certainty about which countries we should move too. People need to accept there is RISK in every choice now. Staying is a risk going is a risk. This risk aversion is leading to an endless cycle of seeking security ( it doesn't exist ) from anonymous people on the internet to tell you what is a ''safe'' place to go.

You don't know this person who's reporting from the ground, its very subjective so even with all the info you have here you still don't have an accurate picture. It actually makes us more confused.

On your point of the visas, I don't think its that big of a problem. People overstay all the time without issue, its one of the main ways used by latin americans to gain residence in spain. Just enter the country and never leave. We are talking about escaping the Globo homo and living outside of their rules, then why keep following the rules exactly to the letter, that's something for the sheeple. We need to start bending things to our will and adopting strategies of the third worlders / less civilized.

 

[El Draque]

On your point of the visas, I don't think its that big of a problem. People overstay all the time without issue, its one of the main ways used by latin americans to gain residence in spain. Just enter the country and never leave. We are talking about escaping the Globo homo and living outside of their rules, then why keep following the rules exactly to the letter, that's something for the sheeple. We need to start bending things to our will and adopting strategies of the third worlders / less civilized.

I'd agree historically, but the VISA situation gets a bit more stark now, due to the "Papers Please!" era we're entering.

Ultimately people need to get somewhere where they have at least some sort of legal grounding to remain. Because in 3-6 months we'll be in the middle of winter, and Lord knows what psy-ops and policies will be being unleashed.

This time next year what will you be able to do that wont require some form of ID? Rent a room? Technically you cant already, but certainly on likes of ABNB, Booking.Com etc they will be the first to get Vaccination Status of guests up and running.

Even go to the shops, board a train, get a bus, eat in a restaurant will require paperwork, as planned in countries openly for the coming 6 weeks, let alone 6 months.

I dont think trading a life in UK / USA etc where for all its faults, as a citizen you have a legal grounding which you should be able to research, understand and use as a defence, for floating on the breeze solo around EE / the Third World.

I dont know what kind of quality of life you can have just living illegally in a country, going from day to day. Pre Covid, ok no big deal, pay a fine, and go stay in a neighbouring country 90 days, before returning.

But now, all the doors to international travel / old freedoms are coming down, and being bolted. You'll just waste precious 'get settled time', and find yourself persona non grata, down the line, by which time who knows what the situation will be.

Re shopping around online for locations, it's retarded. Even on this site there's so much disinfo, willful or otherwise, out there. Last few pages several posters here are talking about pulling the trigger and buying flights to Georgia. I'm here now and can tell you this is ABSOLUTELY NOT the place to escape this. The buy-in is almost across the board. Masks mandated in the streets.

The UK is a basket case, but swapping that, where as a citizen you have rights, there's no mandates, plenty of similar minded people you can contact and network with against this all, for being a perma-tourist in this place is crazy.

There's ZERO demonstrations against any of it here (certainly as i've seen), taxi drivers all masked, waitresses bark at you to put a mask on whilst walking 4 metres from your table to the toilet, it's nuts.

If that was in your country you could protest, get into arguments, state your point. Try that as a foreigner here? lol good luck.

Case in point, you have ZERO rights as a tourist, you're there to spend money and be nice, that's it. Dont kid yourself, a tourist is all you'll ever be in places like this as well, maybe a long-stay one, but that's it.

Swapping legal certainty, a solid footing with police and law, and rights to remain for a wing and prayer abroad without all that right now, especially given what we see coming down the pipe, seems foolhardy in the extreme to me.

 

[brotherjimbob]

Valuabl

I'd agree historically, but the VISA situation gets a bit more stark now, due to the "Papers Please!" era we're entering.

Ultimately people need to get somewhere where they have at least some sort of legal grounding to remain. Because in 3-6 months we'll be in the middle of winter, and Lord knows what psy-ops and policies will be being unleashed.

This time next year what will you be able to do that wont require some form of ID? Rent a room? Technically you cant already, but certainly on likes of ABNB, Booking.Com etc they will be the first to get Vaccination Status of guests up and running.

Even go to the shops, board a train, get a bus, eat in a restaurant will require paperwork, as planned in countries openly for the coming 6 weeks, let alone 6 months.

I dont think trading a life in UK / USA etc where for all its faults, as a citizen you have a legal grounding which you should be able to research, understand and use as a defence, for floating on the breeze solo around EE / the Third World.

I dont know what kind of quality of life you can have just living illegally in a country, going from day to day. Pre Covid, ok no big deal, pay a fine, and go stay in a neighbouring country 90 days, before returning.

But now, all the doors to international travel / old freedoms are coming down, and being bolted. You'll just waste precious 'get settled time', and find yourself persona non grata, down the line, by which time who knows what the situation will be.

Re shopping around online for locations, it's retarded. Even on this site there's so much disinfo, willful or otherwise, out there. Last few pages several posters here are talking about pulling the trigger and buying flights to Georgia. I'm here now and can tell you this is ABSOLUTELY NOT the place to escape this. The buy-in is almost across the board. Masks mandated in the streets.

The UK is a basket case, but swapping that, where as a citizen you have rights, there's no mandates, plenty of similar minded people you can contact and network with against this all, for being a perma-tourist in this place is crazy.

There's ZERO demonstrations against any of it here (certainly as i've seen), taxi drivers all masked, waitresses bark at you to put a mask on whilst walking 4 metres from your table to the toilet, it's nuts.

If that was in your country you could protest, get into arguments, state your point. Try that as a foreigner here? lol good luck.

Case in point, you have ZERO rights as a tourist, you're there to spend money and be nice, that's it. Dont kid yourself, a tourist is all you'll ever be in places like this as well, maybe a long-stay one, but that's it.

Swapping legal certainty, a solid footing with police and law, and rights to remain for a wing and prayer abroad without all that right now, especially given what we see coming down the pipe, seems foolhardy in the extreme to me.

Valuable insights.

You probably saved some guys the cost and hassle of finding out realities on the ground, by posting that... online.

 

[brotherjimbob]

Valuabl

I'd agree historically, but the VISA situation gets a bit more stark now, due to the "Papers Please!" era we're entering.

Ultimately people need to get somewhere where they have at least some sort of legal grounding to remain. Because in 3-6 months we'll be in the middle of winter, and Lord knows what psy-ops and policies will be being unleashed.

This time next year what will you be able to do that wont require some form of ID? Rent a room? Technically you cant already, but certainly on likes of ABNB, Booking.Com etc they will be the first to get Vaccination Status of guests up and running.

Even go to the shops, board a train, get a bus, eat in a restaurant will require paperwork, as planned in countries openly for the coming 6 weeks, let alone 6 months.

I dont think trading a life in UK / USA etc where for all its faults, as a citizen you have a legal grounding which you should be able to research, understand and use as a defence, for floating on the breeze solo around EE / the Third World.

I dont know what kind of quality of life you can have just living illegally in a country, going from day to day. Pre Covid, ok no big deal, pay a fine, and go stay in a neighbouring country 90 days, before returning.

But now, all the doors to international travel / old freedoms are coming down, and being bolted. You'll just waste precious 'get settled time', and find yourself persona non grata, down the line, by which time who knows what the situation will be.

Re shopping around online for locations, it's retarded. Even on this site there's so much disinfo, willful or otherwise, out there. Last few pages several posters here are talking about pulling the trigger and buying flights to Georgia. I'm here now and can tell you this is ABSOLUTELY NOT the place to escape this. The buy-in is almost across the board. Masks mandated in the streets.

The UK is a basket case, but swapping that, where as a citizen you have rights, there's no mandates, plenty of similar minded people you can contact and network with against this all, for being a perma-tourist in this place is crazy.

There's ZERO demonstrations against any of it here (certainly as i've seen), taxi drivers all masked, waitresses bark at you to put a mask on whilst walking 4 metres from your table to the toilet, it's nuts.

If that was in your country you could protest, get into arguments, state your point. Try that as a foreigner here? lol good luck.

Case in point, you have ZERO rights as a tourist, you're there to spend money and be nice, that's it. Dont kid yourself, a tourist is all you'll ever be in places like this as well, maybe a long-stay one, but that's it.

Swapping legal certainty, a solid footing with police and law, and rights to remain for a wing and prayer abroad without all that right now, especially given what we see coming down the pipe, seems foolhardy in the extreme to me.

Valuable insights.

You probably saved some guys the cost and hassle of finding out realities on the ground, by posting that... online.

 

[brotherjimbob]

This can't be legit?))

Serbia's at 70%+ vaxxed?))

My friend in Serbia tells me know one would touch that shit...

Can't just be his circle.

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[brotherjimbob]

5bn + worldwide?))

C'mon... I'm trying to make a decision here))

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[Magnus Stout]

While it makes sense to avoid areas enthusiastically embracing the antichrist spirit (ex: rural > urban), can there ever be a materialistic fix to a spiritual problem?

Aren't things becoming incredibly simple now? Isn't the side of Good now readily apparent? That side is not geographic (and thus there will be no particular country immune from these forces as the antichrist spirit will establish and lead a global system).

Therefore, most (if not all) the work that needs to be done is internal to you. Everyone needs to be aligning their soul to God. As the world sinks into crass and incoherent materialism, we need to be living according to spiritual Truth.

The rise of antichrist spirit can be terrifying, but it is better seen as a punishment for those rejecting Christ and a call to repent. A good example: think back to the Pharaoh in Exodus. The miracles that God performed through Moses were aimed at the unrepentant Egyptians. Like the secular today, the Egyptians back then saw no need to respect the Most High and were confident in their own abilities and culture (sound familiar?). God allowed Pharaoh to become intoxicated by his own ego to the point of embracing his own lies ("hardening his heart"). During this time, the people he ruled were progressively punished. This is something like the model we may witness with the final Antichrist as he will also be permitted to become intoxicated by his own ego to the point of embracing his own lies, and his followers will be similarly destroyed.

God has a plan for each of us that works towards the Good of all. There's no one-size-fits-all plan for each of you. Some may move, some may stay, some will flee, some will be imprisoned and some will be martyred. But, like Daniel who was unharmed after being thrown into a furnace and a den of lions, we are not to worry about the outcome of our mortal bodies--only that God's Will be done. This is why the most important thing is to be lead by the Holy Spirit. This is also why it is written that you do not have to prepare a speech in case you are arrested, but that the Spirit will give you the words in the appropriate time.

Have faith. The earth is a school: God will provide everything that's needed for you to learn and grow spiritually.

 

[Grenadill]

This can't be legit?))

Serbia's at 70%+ vaxxed?))

My friend in Serbia tells me know one would touch that shit...

Can't just be his circle.

covidvax.live: Live COVID-19 Vaccination Tracker - See vaccinations in real time!

See how quickly the COVID-19 vaccinations are being rolled out across the world and how long it will take to vaccinate the population.

covidvax.live

Do you really believe this site? With the clock ticking like nuts! LOL

In Bulgaria sometime it takes up to THREE months to receive a speeding ticket. This tells you how efficient in organizing and storing data MOST countries in this list are.

A big part of the success of this hoax is that we are now under the internet spell.

 

[Viktor Zeegelaar]

Did someone mention Vietnam?

Satan can't stop laughing, he's having the time of his life.

 

[holgerdanske]

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What do you guys think about this? I really hope he is wrong but judging by the events here in Spain last year all the way into April I am afraid he may be right.

 

[brotherjimbob]

Well, that's Serbia off the list...

Just asked a contact on the ground if that 80% vaxxed figure is accurate...

Reply; 'Indeed. I work at the medical research center in national institute of public health'.

Gonna be a whole lot of suffering down there.

 

[iop890]

Serbia was one of the first "based" countries to start vaxxing like crazy. They were at 30% within a few months of the vax being pushed, even a lot of western countries were lagging behind them.

80% still sounds high though. I was under the impression that they got to ~30% very quickly and then slowed down significantly one the initial wave of NPCs hat been jabbed. NYTimes tracker says 40% vaxxed there.

 

[Don Quixote]

I'd agree historically, but the VISA situation gets a bit more stark now, due to the "Papers Please!" era we're entering.

Ultimately people need to get somewhere where they have at least some sort of legal grounding to remain. Because in 3-6 months we'll be in the middle of winter, and Lord knows what psy-ops and policies will be being unleashed.

This time next year what will you be able to do that wont require some form of ID? Rent a room? Technically you cant already, but certainly on likes of ABNB, Booking.Com etc they will be the first to get Vaccination Status of guests up and running.

Even go to the shops, board a train, get a bus, eat in a restaurant will require paperwork, as planned in countries openly for the coming 6 weeks, let alone 6 months.

I dont think trading a life in UK / USA etc where for all its faults, as a citizen you have a legal grounding which you should be able to research, understand and use as a defence, for floating on the breeze solo around EE / the Third World.

I dont know what kind of quality of life you can have just living illegally in a country, going from day to day. Pre Covid, ok no big deal, pay a fine, and go stay in a neighbouring country 90 days, before returning.

But now, all the doors to international travel / old freedoms are coming down, and being bolted. You'll just waste precious 'get settled time', and find yourself persona non grata, down the line, by which time who knows what the situation will be.

Re shopping around online for locations, it's retarded. Even on this site there's so much disinfo, willful or otherwise, out there. Last few pages several posters here are talking about pulling the trigger and buying flights to Georgia. I'm here now and can tell you this is ABSOLUTELY NOT the place to escape this. The buy-in is almost across the board. Masks mandated in the streets.

The UK is a basket case, but swapping that, where as a citizen you have rights, there's no mandates, plenty of similar minded people you can contact and network with against this all, for being a perma-tourist in this place is crazy.

There's ZERO demonstrations against any of it here (certainly as i've seen), taxi drivers all masked, waitresses bark at you to put a mask on whilst walking 4 metres from your table to the toilet, it's nuts.

If that was in your country you could protest, get into arguments, state your point. Try that as a foreigner here? lol good luck.

Case in point, you have ZERO rights as a tourist, you're there to spend money and be nice, that's it. Dont kid yourself, a tourist is all you'll ever be in places like this as well, maybe a long-stay one, but that's it.

Swapping legal certainty, a solid footing with police and law, and rights to remain for a wing and prayer abroad without all that right now, especially given what we see coming down the pipe, seems foolhardy in the extreme to me.

To be honest, I am biased because months ago I bought a flight that was super expensive and have kept pushing it back each week lol. So I just can't stomach losing that money... I'm desperately trying to rationalize my decision right now.

 

[Jaeric]

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What do you guys think about this? I really hope he is wrong but judging by the events here in Spain last year all the way into April I am afraid he may be right.

I would say he is probably right on the money.

The window is closing for most most western countries. If you are going to get out you need to get out now. Canada for instance has already announced needing a vaccine passport to fly internationally. The date has not been set yet but they are targeting this fall. So you either go some place a little more sane or you get prepared for what is coming.

I would also that the countries with highest consumption levels will be the hardest hit because this is where the people who are enacting these policies believe are the most harmful population to the environment.

Another suggestion if you are going to leave to go somewhere else, make sure it's somewhere that isn't dependant on other countries to feed it's citizens.

 

[Magnus Stout]

What do you guys think about this? I really hope he is wrong but judging by the events here in Spain last year all the way into April I am afraid he may be right.

He is partially right and partially wrong.

What's right: yes, lockdowns will continue and some of the cucked Five Eyes countries are testing grounds for new policies. Moving now may be easier for some before global health IDs are implemented.

What's wrong: Modern China is the darling of the elite and the beta for the New Global Order (surveillance, social credit, heath fascism, etc...). I would even speculate that the occult elite has awarded China Afghanistan (there are significant minerals available). The decline of America was inevitable, but it appears that the US is also experiencing sabotage at various levels to hasten this collapse.

Finally, his predictions are flawed because they do not seem to comprehend evil (other than at a superficial libertarian level of "muh freedom"). The clot shot (& everything surrounding it) is inherently evil and his refusal/ambivalence in saying that is telling. Discernment is key. Otherwise, you are bringing a knife to a gun fight (spirituality speaking).

The force behind the global totalitarian takeover is Satan. You cannot Google Map your way out of this spiritual conflict. There will be safe places, but you must be lead by the Spirit. Remember Elijah? He literally hid under the nose of the king. Others will find similar refuge in unusual places.

 

[holgerdanske]

I would say he is probably right on the money.

The window is closing for most most western countries. If you are going to get out you need to get out now. Canada for instance has already announced needing a vaccine passport to fly internationally. The date has not been set yet but they are targeting this fall. So you either go some place a little more sane or you get prepared for what is coming.

I would also that the countries with highest consumption levels will be the hardest hit because this is where the people who are enacting these policies believe are the most harmful population to the environment.

Another suggestion if you are going to leave to go somewhere else, make sure it's somewhere that isn't dependant on other countries to feed it's citizens.

WHERE? This is the question I'm battling with. Eastern Ukraine like Coach Red Pill? I don't mind learning another language but there are many other considerations. For example:

Is it possible to run an online business from that new location?
How about banking relationships? You may not be able to use a Western CC in many Eastern European countries or log into your bank account online from there without raising a security flag.
Visa? Some of us may be able to spring an investor visa but I suspect many won't.

Getting out means more than just getting out physically. Most likely one's life and career will have to be completely restructured. My situation is actually pretty ideal when it comes to that as my wife and I are nimble and could leave on the drop of a hat. The most difficult part would be to ship our stuff in a container. But it's a scary move to be honest and I find myself doubting and procrastinating. And what if e.g. Ukraine switches on a dime next month or next year and you find yourself in the very same situation?

 

[holgerdanske]

He is partially right and partially wrong.

What's right: yes, lockdowns will continue and some of the cucked Five Eyes countries are testing grounds for new policies. Moving now may be easier for some before global health IDs are implemented.

The cut off will be October me thinks...

What's wrong: Modern China is the darling of the elite and the beta for the New Global Order (surveillance, social credit, heath fascism, etc...). I would even speculate that the occult elite has awarded China Afghanistan (there are significant minerals available). The decline of America was inevitable, but it appears that the US is also experiencing sabotage at various levels to hasten this collapse.

Yes and no. This is what many wealthy elites, especially the ones in the Jewish community, have been planning. Many even have set up secondary residences in China and married local woman to ease the transition. What they found however is that the reception was less than welcoming as the Chinese consider them traitors in their home country (mainly in the U.K. and the U.S) and don't want to have anything to do with them. Consider the current political 180 toward anti-Chinese rhetoric. This would have been unthinkable under Trump's term but look no further than G. Soros' tweet a week or two ago where he declared Xi Jinping the enemy of the free world. Also see a recent Hollywood Reporter article which openly made the point that Chinese revenues from movies have been extremely underwhelming and that Hollywood needs to rethink how it is catering to China.

I agree with you absolutely on your point regarding sabotage occurring at various levels. This is something that has been rather obvious to me for quite a long time now and I've seen it expressed very rarely.

Finally, his predictions are flawed because they do not seem to comprehend evil (other than at a superficial libertarian level of "muh freedom"). The clot shot (& everything surrounding it) is inherently evil and his refusal/ambivalence in saying that is telling. Discernment is key. Otherwise, you are bringing a knife to a gun fight (spirituality speaking).

I don't necessarily believe it's a lack of comprehension although I am confident that the coach is an atheist. He is very much aware that this is a spiritual battle and that evil forces are at work. He may sense this intuitively and then attempt to rationalize it intellectually as he's very much proud of his IQ. To his credit he has in the past admitted that he has been horribly wrong many times and that he hopes he's wrong this time around.

The force behind the global totalitarian takeover is Satan. You cannot Google Map your way out of this spiritual conflict. There will be safe places, but you must be lead by the Spirit. Remember Elijah? He literally hid under the nose of the king. Others will find similar refuge in unusual places.

What we are facing is nothing short of unbridled Satanism, absolutely. It's right in our faces at this point but nobody or at least very few have the courage to look evil right back into its eyes and proclaim: No further, this is where I draw the line you shall not cross!

We wil need courage, brothers, for this is the most important battle of our generation. The outcome will decide our collective future for the remainder of this century.

 

[san26]

More info on Georgia ? Why is it a no go ? I'm sure there are a few Orthodox churches defying the rules?

 

[Mountaineer]

Georgia is a puppet, do not go there, they are nose diving into this pos.

How about instead of going to a specific country buy a boat instead and cruise the ocean. An old Polish traveler crossed the Atlantic a few times in a kayak of all things. Crossing oceans is certainly feasible. No one will enforce lockdowns on the seas.

 

[the high]

Yes and no. This is what many wealthy elites, especially the ones in the Jewish community, have been planning. Many even have set up secondary residences in China and married local woman to ease the transition. What they found however is that the reception was less than welcoming as the Chinese consider them traitors in their home country (mainly in the U.K. and the U.S) and don't want to have anything to do with them. Consider the current political 180 toward anti-Chinese rhetoric. This would have been unthinkable under Trump's term but look no further than G. Soros' tweet a week or two ago where he declared Xi Jinping the enemy of the free world. Also see a recent Hollywood Reporter article which openly made the point that Chinese revenues from movies have been extremely underwhelming and that Hollywood needs to rethink how it is catering to China.

Didn't Soros say something similar about Trump? Funny how that turned out. Also bear in mind the oligarchs like to sling mud at each other occasionally for whatever reason. Remember the MSM reporting Gates infidelity and them linking Fauci to that lab in Wuhan? I think they float these bad publicity stories out there to keep their henchman in tow.

Like Trump we want to believe China is some sort of adversary to the globalists but China has benefited from this whole fiasco every step of the way. They laid the groundwork for all of this with their 'leaked' videos of people falling out in the street, lockdowns, and the government using whatever means necessary to stop the spread of the virus. I can't tell how you how many normies told me "we need to be more like China" during the early parts of the lockdown last year. Much like America was once the blueprint for the rest of the world because of our "democracy", China is the new one, and I personally believe they are at least partially responsible for Australia's current situation.