Escape From 'The New Normal'?

Grow Bag

Woodpecker
I would not be surprised if we see black market PCR tests starting to circulate. It's a very low hanging fruit for the mafia and other criminal gangs in Europe.
Bill want to make a shiny example of us all.
 

aynrus

Kingfisher
I would not be surprised if we see black market PCR tests starting to circulate. It's a very low hanging fruit for the mafia and other criminal gangs in Europe.
It's easy to make fake PCR for outside the States...
(printout, generate QR code/plenty of free websites for this, register right-sounding domain, put up "test results", point QR to that, email results to yourself from the domain, etc)
In the States, the digital totalitarianism and general paranoia about everything air travel and police state are so extreme they might actually detect the fake here.
 
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Easy_C

Peacock
I don't understand why people are ready to leave their western homeland. There are many forms of protest, and if all fails, one of these is a donation to the Porsche fund of a friendly doc who is OK with injecting saline.
Because of the long term trend that goes beyond just COVID.

It isn’t just a “scamdemic” as an isolated event imposed on us. It’s that way because we have culture that goes along with it and a large number of people who want a socialist society that hands them out rations and tells them what to think. And that number is rapidly growing as Two thirds of Gen Z think rioting and looting is justified.

Even if you get rid of COVID tomorrow you have a looming fiscal implosion that will result in massive wealth confiscations and a culture that is entirely dominated by left wing socialism and rapidly becoming more radical.

Basically your options are flee, fight, or submit to your fate.
 

Elmore

Kingfisher

These countries could potentially be somewhat shielded from the rot. Although most are islands in the middle of the ocean, Turkmenistan is in Central Europe, and really caught my eye...


I glaze over when people start suggesting places like this.

What are you looking for a long term future? How can you expect to have that being an obvious outsider in such a place?

Out-Group mistrust is (healthily) strong as hell round there. Do not think you will ever be accepted into local community. If for whatever reason, anything goes down, any major instability etc, you will be on very thin ice.

If theres a covid outbreak that kills locals and they find theres westerners in town that have refused vaccines, how do you think thatll play out?
 

aynrus

Kingfisher
Yeah, I'd be interested in doing that myself - but I don't know if that's possible in the US.
People use these fake DYI tests in Europe and Middle East a lot right now (I described above how they're made). LOL, someone pointed their QR code to a page with kittens flying into a certain country, it still worked, but they got stricter after the kittens incident.
But as to US airports....I'm not sure if it's worth it because of general extreme police state and paranoia related to air travel, feds being involved, attitudes of personnel feeling like they're cops, etc.
 

aynrus

Kingfisher
I glaze over when people start suggesting places like this.

What are you looking for a long term future? How can you expect to have that being an obvious outsider in such a place?

Out-Group mistrust is (healthily) strong as hell round there. Do not think you will ever be accepted into local community. If for whatever reason, anything goes down, any major instability etc, you will be on very thin ice.

If theres a covid outbreak that kills locals and they find theres westerners in town that have refused vaccines, how do you think thatll play out?
To add, some of these countries such as Turkmenistan had been impossible to even get a visa into before any scamdemic, much less some kind of residency. And the stuff that goes down in some of those countries makes anything NATO look really, really good.

By the way, anyone seen the news about Russian diplomats escaping from North Korea via hand-pushed rail trolley, due to Kim'Un blowing up hoax paranoia? :D
 
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aynrus

Kingfisher
Because of the long term trend that goes beyond just COVID.

It isn’t just a “scamdemic” as an isolated event imposed on us. It’s that way because we have culture that goes along with it and a large number of people who want a socialist society that hands them out rations and tells them what to think. And that number is rapidly growing as Two thirds of Gen Z think rioting and looting is justified.

Even if you get rid of COVID tomorrow you have a looming fiscal implosion that will result in massive wealth confiscations and a culture that is entirely dominated by left wing socialism and rapidly becoming more radical.

Basically your options are flee, fight, or submit to your fate.
It goes way beyond the hoax scamdemic and I was suffocating here way before the hoax started and was predicting they were going to pull some kind of Black Swan event to cemente their totalitarian New Order. I saw this everywhere and the writing was on every wall. I started to prepare to leave 7 years ago but back then I had a lucrative job and decided to hold on while I could stay in that position - surely was fired for political speech, eventually, and now I'm free.

I wasn't born and didn't grow up here though lived here (US) most of my adult live - I have a way to compare and not a tourist but as someone who lived elsewhere full time. This is basically Soviet Union now (minus social safety nets). The strong law enforcement such as in the US is a double-edged sword: it turns against regular law-abiding people like myself, when tyrannical government points it to - while in countries with less law enforcement and less control there're many ways to avoid the tyranny by avoidance, going under the radar, paying your way out, using the chaos, etc.

At this point living here is like being hostage of a bunch of criminals and I mean US government. The things they do and digital totalitarianism are incredible, just in the last 3 months I've been hit by new digital concentration camp stuff directly more than once. I shudder thinking of what's coming ahead. I was blacklisted by one government agency who claimed they didn't know who I was and required me to submit to ID.ME satanic identity verification stuff - which goes way being identity verificaition, it's basically submitting all your data to a shady private startup corporation with no live person to contact, including voice and numerous video-selfie recordings while speaking out your social security number, holding your ID documents, submitting to multiple facial recognition scans they store (and surely their disclaimer says have a right to sell!) - fortunately, I won that fight and avoided ID.me but I have nothing but hate and fear of this government at this point. I was also blacklisted by 2 major US brokers which closed my accounts and refuse to provide explanation, which I'm sure is hostile action towards political undesirables combined with discrimination against my 2nd citizenship they're stealth-hostile to (there was absolutly nothing "funny" going with these accounts). You can be blacklisted and deplatformed here and literally cut off from all essential services instantly, without any explanation and be turned into a 2nd class subhuman (clearly more is coming when they manufacture enough vaccine poison, and this will be taken to extreme, I'm sure they'll harass non-vaccinated people by shadow-banning them from banking, etc)
And try to break free from the criminal cartel that runs this country....as Nomadic Capitalist correctly called it, they have serious capital controls (good luck using banks and brokers as an expat)
 
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Mountaineer

Pelican
Gold Member
It goes way beyond the hoax scamdemic and I was suffocating here way before the hoax started and was predicting they were going to pull some kind of Black Swan event to cemente their totalitarian New Order. I saw this everywhere and the writing was on every wall. I started to prepare to leave 7 years ago but back then I had a lucrative job and decided to hold on while I could stay in that position - surely was fired for political speech, eventually, and now I'm free.

I wasn't born and didn't grow up here though lived here (US) most of my adult live - I have a way to compare and not a tourist but as someone who lived elsewhere full time. This is basically Soviet Union now (minus social safety nets). The strong law enforcement such as in the US is a double-edged sword: it turns against regular law-abiding people like myself, when tyrannical government points it to - while in countries with less law enforcement and less control there're many ways to avoid the tyranny by avoidance, going under the radar, paying your way out, using the chaos, etc.

At this point living here is like being hostage of a bunch of criminals and I mean US government. The things they do and digital totalitarianism are incredible, just in the last 3 months I've been hit by new digital concentration camp stuff directly more than once. I shudder thinking of what's coming ahead. I was blacklisted by one government agency who claimed they didn't know who I was and required me to submit to ID.ME satanic identity verification stuff - which goes way being identity verificaition, it's basically submitting all your data to a shady private startup corporation with no live person to contact, including voice and numerous video-selfie recordings while speaking out your social security number, holding your ID documents, submitting to multiple facial recognition scans they store (and surely their disclaimer says have a right to sell!) - fortunately, I won that fight and avoided ID.me but I have nothing but hate and fear of this government at this point. I was also blacklisted by 2 major US brokers which closed my accounts and refuse to provide explanation, which I'm sure is hostile action towards political undesirables combined with discrimination against my 2nd citizenship they're stealth-hostile to (there was absolutly nothing "funny" going with these accounts). You can be blacklisted and deplatformed here and literally cut off from all essential services instantly, without any explanation and be turned into a 2nd class subhuman (clearly more is coming when they manufacture enough vaccine poison, and this will be taken to extreme, I'm sure they'll harass non-vaccinated people by shadow-banning them from banking, etc)
And try to break free from the criminal cartel that runs this country....as Nomadic Capitalist correctly called it, they have serious capital controls (good luck using banks and brokers as an expat)
So, where to?
 

Aizen

Kingfisher
To add, some of these countries such as Turkmenistan had been impossible to even get a visa into before any scamdemic, much less some kind of residency. And the stuff that goes down in some of those countries makes anything NATO look really, really good.
Do you know anything about this country? I became very curious when I heard it's one of the only European country to record ZERO covid cases. They basically refused to acknowledge its existence. Given your expertise in Eastern European affairs, I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
 

Goni

Woodpecker
Do you know anything about this country? I became very curious when I heard it's one of the only European country to record ZERO covid cases. They basically refused to acknowledge its existence. Given your expertise in Eastern European affairs, I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
Turkmenistan is not European or east European.

Is in middle asia.
 

Grow Bag

Woodpecker
I watched a video by Bald and Bankrupt this morning and it really cheered me up. He journeyed from Kiev to Odessa, stopping along the way. There was lovely moment when a guy on the train says he wants to play his accordion*, but is worried he'll get thrown off the train, but nevertheless he starts playing a song and the whole compartment sings along with him. Non of them were wearing masks by the way, only when entering and exiting the stations.

It's that sense of shared culture that has mostly disappeared from the West, that I miss badly. When I traveled to Lviv (Lwów) a few years ago, (which is where my father went to school) I could walk the streets for hours, having lots of nice encounters in markets and visiting the many splendid churches. When I lived in London I rarely went anywhere, it's a grotty cosmopolitan, pozzed city which I came to detest. Sure, the Ukraine is corrupt, broke, etc., but it's a big country and is the people still have heart and a sense of themselves.

* @ 8:35
 
Slightly off topic, but talking about the UK...

What the shi[earmuffs] was up with that Captain Tom panto?

It was all an in your face sacrifice if you ask me...

I remember thinking 'why are the media making such a HUGE deal of this guy walking around his garden?'...

Cut to equally huge mourning of his passing... I guess after taking the vax.
That was a feel good story for the masses to keep up 'solidarity for the cause' Plays on peoples respect for service personel and national pride. This brave man served his country and now he makes a stand to help us with covid! Great distraction to keep eyes off the laws introduced against leaving your home without reason.
 
That was a feel good story for the masses to keep up 'solidarity for the cause' Plays on peoples respect for service personel and national pride. This brave man served his country and now he makes a stand to help us with covid! Great distraction to keep eyes off the laws introduced against leaving your home without reason.
Agreed. There's also an element of "Who in their right mind would object to an adorable old man doing such an altruistic act?!"

COnVID-19(84) "pandemic" = Science Worship + NHS Worship + Pharma Worship + Irrationality

And Captain Tom, amongst other people, has been portrayed as if he's a 'Church' of COVID saint. I don't have anything at all against the man, but you can see a cult-like parallel.
 
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