Escape From 'The New Normal'?

Elmore

Kingfisher

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Ukraine throws away unused COVID-19 shots as doctors skip their own vaccinations​

Natalia Zinets and Pavel Polityuk

A medical worker receives a dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine against the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) at a hospital in Lviv, Ukraine, March 1, 2021.
REUTERS/PAVLO PALAMARCHUK




KYIV (Reuters) - Ukrainian medical facilities have thrown away some unused COVID-19 vaccines after doctors failed to show up for their own appointments to be vaccinated, ruling party lawmakers said on Monday.
Ukraine has just begun vaccinating its 41 million people against COVID-19 after receiving a first batch of 500,000 doses of Indian-made AstraZeneca shots last week, but faces a battle against vaccine scepticism that predates the pandemic.

The government has prioritised giving shots to frontline medical workers but cited statistics showing that 47% of Ukrainians do not want the vaccine.
"It is important for us to understand how all the processes are set up, why doctors refuse to be vaccinated," Oleksandr Korniyenko, the head of President Volodymyr Zelenskiy's Servant of the People party, told a televised meeting.
"This is very bad, but there is no other option... if a person does not come, it (vaccine bottle) can be kept open for 2-3 hours, after which it must be disposed of," the head of parliament's health committee Mykhailo Radutskyi said.

A total of 3,141 shots were administered of Feb. 28, including just 90 shots in the past 24 hours, health ministry data showed.
Health Minister Maksym Stepanov said the government was working to ensure vaccines do not get thrown away, adding this also happened in other countries.
He was vaccinated on television on Monday and said Zelenskiy would take the shot soon.
"I proved by my own example that the vaccine we are vaccinated with is an absolutely safe vaccine, it is an effective vaccine," he said.

A significant part of the population of Ukraine, like many post-Soviet republics, is traditionally wary of vaccines, fearing side effects from poor quality drugs. Such mistrust allowed a measles outbreak to grow into an epidemic in 2019.

COVID-19 cases have picked up after a lull during a tight lockdown at the start of the year, especially in Kyiv and western Ukraine, where the government set up mobile hospitals to cope with a sharp spike in cases. Ukraine has registered 1.3 million cases with 26,050 deaths from COVID-19 as of March 1.

In the northern city of Chernihiv, only 87 out of 280 doctors agreed to be vaccinated, the secretary of the city council said in a Facebook post on Feb 24.
 

san26

Chicken
I remember reading this, but cannot find where this was discussed, but I think it was . Can anyone forecast, what it will be like , say two years from now, If an American citizen is in a foreign country , and wants to return home, will they be forced to take the vaccine? I am assuming it would depend on the requirements for entry into the United States, what the United States has enacted. But, what about transiting through another foreign country to return, since this is a must from far away places. One could pick a transit country that is anti vaccine, or transit may not be a big deal.
 

Elmore

Kingfisher
Dont really know the appropriate thread for this -as an aside, is it just me or are there too many sub-forums here? it's hard to know which one to look in for a subject, the terms are broad and subjects such as 'prepping' can fall into multiple subs -

Either way, an interesting thread.

 
Dont really know the appropriate thread for this -as an aside, is it just me or are there too many sub-forums here? it's hard to know which one to look in for a subject, the terms are broad and subjects such as 'prepping' can fall into multiple subs -

Either way, an interesting thread.

The famines during The Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution were the most severe in the countryside. The authorities (by use of force) simply took the food away from the farmers and provided it to the urbanites. All of this was usually based on faulty calculations, corruption and self-preservation
 

Stadtaffe

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Am on my way to Corona test #3 within 2 weeks. It really is quite clown. Test 1 did not even get me through all the borders I needed to get through, although it came back negative. It was a back-of-throat type, proper PCR and lab one. So that was last week. Then on Sunday afternoon just past I had another one in anticipation of travel on Tuesday - needed to keep it as close as possible to the travel as possible so they did not complain about it being outside the 72 hour window. That travel seemed too complicated the more I researched it, and I decided to do something else. I would have boarded a vessel Wednesday night but realised that the covid test from Sunday was just outside the 72 hour window. So am off again, this will be my 8th test so far. Going to lose count soon..

I can hardly contain my excitement and anticipation as to whether this will be an up-the-nose type or back-of-throat type, well what other excitement does one get with the new normal? Whether you make it through a border or not? The bars are all closed. Gotta get my kicks somewhere..

Actually it was funny with the one on Sunday, one instinctively moves away from a probe which is inserted where it is not meant to go. It was in Paris and the nurse said «mais quel âge avez vous? vous n'êtes plus un enfant..» and when it was done «vous avez grandis aujourd'hui» it was rather funny.

It was the lowest pain I have had in the up-the-nose type. She did both nostrils. Was quite precise and skilled with it. One of the places I have had two of those like to give it a royal lobotomy style prodding which hurts for the rest of the day. Very young sadistic nurses in that place, this one was older.

At least there is no pressure yet to get a vaccine but I wouldn't bet that it will stay that way.

Yesterday I was without a mask passing hundreds of mask wearing public, and also passed two armed police with masks and also eight soldiers with machine guns and covid masks and nobody said anything or even looked at me strange. Well, maybe one old man somewhere paused slightly on his way. So, lets see now if all my non-mask wearing has caused a contagion of this oh-so-deadly virus.

There used to be a time where "positive without symptoms" was simply called "healthy"..

Word on the street is that those with French passports are creating fake "family visit" forms to visit imaginary family in the former colonies. Shh don't tell TPTB ;)
 

Easy_C

Peacock
I remember reading this, but cannot find where this was discussed, but I think it was . Can anyone forecast, what it will be like , say two years from now, If an American citizen is in a foreign country , and wants to return home, will they be forced to take the vaccine? I am assuming it would depend on the requirements for entry into the United States, what the United States has enacted. But, what about transiting through another foreign country to return, since this is a must from far away places. One could pick a transit country that is anti vaccine, or transit may not be a big deal.
Probably. But do you really want to go back to a country that is going to treat you that way?
 

Mountaineer

Pelican
Gold Member
Imagine thinking any of this was about anything but the Great Reset & Agenda2030

Guardian Promotes ‘Global Lockdown’ Every Two Years To Combat Climate Change​



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fortyfive

Sparrow
Guys, I found something that may be interesting...

I am not getting any vaccine, but people I know are waiting for it, and I was just curious what's inside them.
I looked myself only for publicly available simple chemical info about ingredients, not in any anti-vax or pro-vax articles.

There is an official document from FDA.gov describing ingredients in the Pfizer vaccine https://www.fda.gov/media/144414/download

The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine includes the following ingredients: mRNA, lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 2 [(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3- phosphocholine, and cholesterol), potassium chloride, monobasic potassium phosphate, sodium chloride, dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate, and sucrose.



These ingredients doesn't sound very healthy and natural to me, but I am just an uneducated ordinary man.
For this reason, I googled for more info about specific ingredients and it started to look even more healthy than I hoped.


4-hydroxybutyl (N-butyl-N-(4-hydroxybutyl)nitrosamine is a nitrosamine that has butyl and 4-hydroxybutyl substituents. In mice, it causes high-grade, invasive cancers in the urinary bladder, but not in any other tissues. It has a role as a carcinogenic agent. It is a nitrosamine and a primary alcohol.)
source: https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/N-Butyl-N-_4-hydroxybutyl_nitrosamine

1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine
Inhalation May be harmful if inhaled. May cause respiratory tract irritation. Ingestion May be harmful if swallowed.

polyethylene glycol)-2000
Potential life-threatening hypersensitivity reactions to hidden molecules like macrogol may be underdiagnosed. Cases of immediate-type PEG hypersensitivity were reported with increasing frequency. The awareness regarding the allergenic potential of PEG should be raised and a proper product labelling is crucial to prevent PEG mediated hypersensitivity.

Other ingredients have side effects as:
  • nausea, vomiting, stomach pain, diarrhea;
  • bone or joint pain;
  • headache, dizziness, tired feeling;
  • muscle pain or weakness;
  • increased thirst; or.
  • numbness or tingly feeling.


What're your thoughts about the above-listed facts?
 

AManLikePutin

Kingfisher
Currently sitting at the airport lounge somewhere in Canada waiting for my flight to Texas.

The airport is completely dystopian. I Am Legend vibes. empty. I was the only person at the custom. all the cafes and restaurants are closed. Not a soul at duty-free. I finally managed to get one of the workers to make me a hot coffee.

Very cheerfully, she asks where I am going, and I reply: "Texas, one of the freest places in North America."

She smiles, and then I hear the voice of a middle-aged man (around 50, with a cowboy hat, looks a Texan): "That's because our governor is a fucking idiot."

I smiled and replied: "well, I'm not gonna miss the lockdown, that's for sure" and came to sit down on the only one of the 2 available chairs for computer work.

Just insane how people have been brainwashed into thinking life with few covid restrictions is LITERALLY unacceptable.
 
Currently sitting at the airport lounge somewhere in Canada waiting for my flight to Texas.

The airport is completely dystopian. I Am Legend vibes. empty. I was the only person at the custom. all the cafes and restaurants are closed. Not a soul at duty-free. I finally managed to get one of the workers to make me a hot coffee.

Very cheerfully, she asks where I am going, and I reply: "Texas, one of the freest places in North America."

She smiles, and then I hear the voice of a middle-aged man (around 50, with a cowboy hat, looks a Texan): "That's because our governor is a fucking idiot."

I smiled and replied: "well, I'm not gonna miss the lockdown, that's for sure" and came to sit down on the only one of the 2 available chairs for computer work.

Just insane how people have been brainwashed into thinking life with few covid restrictions is LITERALLY unacceptable.
Insane, isn't it? People have been conditioned so heavily that they've forgotten how important freedom is. It's Stockholm Syndrome on a mass scale.
 

holgerdanske

Sparrow
Currently sitting at the airport lounge somewhere in Canada waiting for my flight to Texas.

The airport is completely dystopian. I Am Legend vibes. empty. I was the only person at the custom. all the cafes and restaurants are closed. Not a soul at duty-free. I finally managed to get one of the workers to make me a hot coffee.

Very cheerfully, she asks where I am going, and I reply: "Texas, one of the freest places in North America."

She smiles, and then I hear the voice of a middle-aged man (around 50, with a cowboy hat, looks a Texan): "That's because our governor is a fucking idiot."

I smiled and replied: "well, I'm not gonna miss the lockdown, that's for sure" and came to sit down on the only one of the 2 available chairs for computer work.

Just insane how people have been brainwashed into thinking life with few covid restrictions is LITERALLY unacceptable.

I would have turned around and retorted: 'I take it you're heading to California then?' ;)
 

Stadtaffe

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Am on my way to Corona test #3 within 2 weeks. It really is quite clown. Test 1 did not even get me through all the borders I needed to get through, although it came back negative. It was a back-of-throat type, proper PCR and lab one. So that was last week. Then on Sunday afternoon just past I had another one in anticipation of travel on Tuesday - needed to keep it as close as possible to the travel as possible so they did not complain about it being outside the 72 hour window. That travel seemed too complicated the more I researched it, and I decided to do something else. I would have boarded a vessel Wednesday night but realised that the covid test from Sunday was just outside the 72 hour window. So am off again, this will be my 8th test so far. Going to lose count soon..
Actually, that was test 4 within two weeks, 3 PCR and a fast test, had forgotten about that fast one I had to get cause someone was paranoid. Took a taxi to this test, did not wear a mask and neither did the driver. Test #4 was a two nostrils one, actually quite painless. Was a bit of eye watering afterwards but no lasting pain. It came back negative as expected, I am very corona negative after a total of 8 tests. So am on the boat right now, a guy a few in front of me in the queue actually was refused entry as his test was more than 72 hours previous. He was all dressed up for it, nice luggage, I think he was from Brazil, they were having language issues.

There was a big sign "no fast tests accepted only PCR". It actually takes a fair bit of planning - the results are typically there within 24 hours but most places only accept you if you present within 72 hours of the test (not of the result). So plenty of potential there to create meaningless suffering in the general public, which is of course what it is really about.

There was every attempt to inflict meaningless suffering - there was a waiting room with perhaps seating for 100. Then there was a sign which said "20 max", but the security guard was telling everyone "15 max" but actually letting 0 in. Well, there were about 5 waiting inside. So about 30 of us were standing outside staring into a room with close to 100 vacant seats after being ordered by a security guard not to enter.

It's their lucky day, the chance to finally enjoy their power that they've always yearned for. Was happy to see the old lady in front of me go off at the security guard about being kept standing when there were so many empty seats. Inside, there was a mother with two children and she was screaming at the top of her lungs at them about how was she to know to also bring the original of her ID, and the covid test etc.

Actually, earlier in the day, unrelated, I saw a woman who was riding a scooter screaming non stop at the top of her lungs at another woman driving a car, the police were in attentance, there had been a crash or near miss. A crowd was gathered and watching. I did not really want to watch it was somewhat upsetting and then the police started to pull back the scooter riding girl who was starting to attack the other one. So who knows if this is the norm here or if it is the result of people being pushed over the edge.

So it looks like I am escaping the new normal but after multiple changes of plan, cancellations and tests, waiting for emails of test results, printing them. I just want to do my thing unimpeded but it is foreboding where this is all heading.
 

Stadtaffe

Woodpecker
Gold Member
In an earlier post I mentioned that people in this region were finding reasons to travel to colonies now closed to tourism. The previous reason was to visit imaginary family which of course can be documented. I just heard another one today, a student enrolled at a university has found an academic reason compelling him to travel, again with the required paperwork. Gotta be creative in this day and age, it's a new skillset
 

Elmore

Kingfisher
Can people be specific here, and lay out exactly what is their current strategy for "Escaping The New Normal"?

Talk us though the steps you will take to do so.

Timeframes are important here.

IMHO the vaccine passports will be ubiquitous by the end of the year.
 
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