Escape From 'The New Normal'?

mr2

Pigeon
A reason why I am in Africa. It is mellow and easy to get by. Infrastructure is a real challenge though, but it can be done. They do not care about who you are. Xenophobia applies however only in selected cases.
What part of Africa?

Why did you pick it and how long have you been these?
 

ginsu

Woodpecker
When I was in Paraguay I noticed that the local police commanders were living fairly well, in houses that would put upper-middle class Americans to shame, but then again they were police majors, colonels, mid-level Army officers in local army units, customs officials in border areas, etc.

When I entered Paraguay I met a number of local police officials, senior officers where I was staying, I got their contact information, we talked, and I was told that, "don't murder, rape, rob, or deal drugs, but if anything else happens while you're here, ask for me by name, we'll get it fixed. If you have some drunk fight in a bar or you hit bump some idiot with a car, we'll sort it out."

Those are fairly easy standards to adhere to, don't murder, rape, rob, or engage in narcotics trafficking.


I would suggest you consider Uruguay, Paraguay, and Chile.



If you're just going to go to Asia and get absorbed there, why even bother having children? Why have children that look nothing like you, look nothing like your parents, look nothing like your grandparents, and who are going to be pulled and torn between two cultures and two worlds. I wouldn't even bother having children.

I don't particularly care whether children of mine enjoy the Sun or enjoy themselves. I care that they faithfully carry on their heritage, conduct themselves well, live with honor and dignity, respect themselves, respect others, and abide by the objective revealed truth of God.

I'm the sort of person who would have an attitude of, "who said I had to care?" if a son of mine told me he wasn't enjoying himself in some homesteading task in Wyoming. My questions would be, "do you have a bed to sleep in at night? Are you safe? Did you get three meals today? Do you have books to read and study? Do you have comfortable clothing on your body? Do you have access to quality health care services? Do you get to see a doctor when you're sick or hurt? Then who says I have to care when you don't enjoy yourself on some particular day. Your great grandmother milked cows in her backyard during the Great Depression and complained less than you."

I take the attitude of, "I gave you life and I'm going to teach you how I think you ought to live, you can grow up and throw it all away if you want, but there's no law of reality and existence that says I have to make sure you enjoy life based on subjective metric or formula."

I basically don't care if my future children ultimately "enjoy" life, let alone if they enjoy the Sun. I care that they wind up being good people.

The only constant in life is struggle. Life is not going to be a source of amusement, pleasure, and enjoyment.
Each person here comes from different backgrounds and has different stories, if moving to thailand is not your thing i understand that, I feel mostly the same. But at least afford others the benefit of the doubt to choose what is right for them

You can assume that moving to Thailand and starting a family there with a local woman is not their ideal scenario, it is a last resort

if they could do any better they would. So just let them have their plans just like you have yours

Or maybe this is an intended pressure that's part of the new forums direction, stronger filtering for like minded people and anyone that doesn't adhere to a specific set of life ideals will be eventually pushed out the door.
 

Kentemo

Robin
Gold Member
Anyone here actually got some form of Covid?
What are the chances that this virus just becomes less deadly with time (like the flu)?

I really want to go and leave Europe, and live in Mexico, in some small village. But Covid still scares me (it's a lot worse in Mexico apparently). They really did a great job scaring the population.
 
You must be joking. Teacher salaries are very low in these countries. Here in VN one can save 2K USD per month teaching English. In the countries you mention it will be tough to save more than 400-500 USD on a monthly basis.


I'm not sure I understand. Teacher salaries?

Are you honestly encouraging young people to quit the USA and go overseas to teach English?

I am talking about successful people relocating to another country and transplanting their success/wealth with them, doing something such as moving to Uruguay, buying 200 acres of land and starting a small cattle ranch, taking their engineering degree with them to Montevideo and doing engineering work, taking their medical practice to Paraguay and doing surgery in Paraguay, etc.

If your only skill is an ability and willingness to teach English, I wouldn't leave the USA for a third world country figuring I could save money by living like a peasant in a sardine can in Vietnam.


If you're a young man who is destitute and you're physically fit and willing to be bored to death for the better portion of 5 years while training and cleaning barracks, with the risk of a deployment or two and possibly being wounded or killed, and you have no family money, no education, etc., I would suggest the French Foreign Legion or the Spanish Foreign Legion [Spanish one is far less likely to see deployments]. If you join the French Foreign Legion, serve in a combat unit such as infantry, paratroopers, Legion commandos, save all of your money while you are in the Legion [about 20,000 Euros per year], when you get out you'll have a nice tidy sum [for a young man] and a skill-set and base of experience that you can use to get a job in private military contracting, high-level private security [dignitary protection, VIP security details], or high-level tactical academy instructor, noting that higher-end contractors can make $1,000 to $1,200 per day when deployed in a conflict zone doing convoy security. If I were 21-25 years old and destitute I would consider the French Foreign Legion well-before I would ever consider moving to Vietnam to teach English, but I'm fundamentally somebody who makes big moves, moves with potentially huge risks but potentially huge payouts. If a life of bare subsistence, meeting all of my basic material needs, and locking myself in at that level with never having a shot at more, had appealed to me, I wouldn't be where I am today.

You could realistically join the French Foreign Legion at 21, get out after 5 years of honorable service at 26, then do private military contracting for 2-3 years and wind up with no less than $1,000,000 [or more] before you turn 30. One of the reasons so many private military contractors just keep doing it is because they squander their money, save nothing, it all winds up being wasted on booze, women, and drugs, so when their contract is up they have nothing to go back to and nothing is saved up. It is one of the reasons some young men stay in the military after their term is up, they have nothing waiting for them because they spent their pay the second they got it. Almost all of my male ancestors in the 1940s fought in the Second World War and they left the military pretty much as soon as they were able to get out in 1945-1946 and they went right on with civilian life, having saved virtually all of their pay from the 1942-1945 period when they were in.


If you go to Vietnam to teach English you lock yourself in to the world of teaching English in third world Asian countries. You don't progress your life skills/experiences, and you don't acquire or sharpen a skill-set that makes you employable in say Austria, Sweden, Belarus, Spain, or the USA. "I spent the last 6 years teaching English in Vietnam" doesn't translate well to getting a job as an engineer, doctor, lawyer, accountant, or really anything, in say Iowa or Indiana. You won't have a skill-set that can be taken into any other field or any other place. There are exceedingly few places in the USA interested in hiring somebody who has years of experience teaching English as a second language in third world countries, and certainly not at the salaries somebody would want or need to be in the USA.

"I spent five years in the French Foreign Legion in an airborne infantry unit with the last two as a Legion commando" translates well into getting a job at any tactical academy, dignitary protection detail, private military contracting organization, that you want.
 
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Watchman72

Sparrow
Clearly the thought of spending the rest of your life in an entirely alien culture is just fine by you.
I'm of mixed race and partly Asian. I'm also a stoic introvert sigma male. I don't feel the need to socialize that much. Being a dancing monkey in the classroom dealing with hundreds of kids is already more than enough human interaction for me. After work I want to be alone with my thoughts and play with my pets. I've got no social life whatsoever and I want to keep it that way. I'm also a chameleon. For me it's easy and interesting to adapt to different cultures and environments. So I just do my lone wolf thing, rake in the money and work on my projects. I can't stand most westerners and I hate contemporary western culture, and because I'm partly Asian I feel at home here. No culture shock whatsoever. I try to stay far away from expats because I don't see the point. Most of them are SJWs/leftists anyway.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
Anyone here actually got some form of Covid?
What are the chances that this virus just becomes less deadly with time (like the flu)?

I really want to go and leave Europe, and live in Mexico, in some small village. But Covid still scares me (it's a lot worse in Mexico apparently). They really did a great job scaring the population.
Yes. Mild but lingering flu and cough.
 

Watchman72

Sparrow
I'm not sure I understand. Teacher salaries?

Are you honestly encouraging young people to quit the USA and go overseas to teach English?

I am talking about successful people relocating to another country and transplanting their success/wealth with them, doing something such as moving to Uruguay, buying 200 acres of land and starting a small cattle ranch, taking their engineering degree with them to Montevideo and doing engineering work, taking their medical practice to Paraguay and doing surgery in Paraguay, etc.
I've got plenty of skills in IT, electronics, audio editing and other stuff, however, I only hold a highschool diploma and I'm pushing 50. In the west I will have to work some sh*tty job, earning minimum wage or slightly more. Life is expensive in the west, so it means I will have to live from paycheck to paycheck and I will be unable to save any significant amount of money. No future! My home country in Europe is going down the drain and my current success/wealth is 5k USD.
What am I supposed to do? In my country I'm a loser. Here I'm able to save 25k USD per year working teaching jobs. I'm having the time of my life and will start my own business soon. Impossible for someone like me to do that in my home country.
 
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Easy_C

Peacock
It was milder this year. Whatever I got at the start of 2020 I’m pretty sure was an early variant of COVID because it arrived in the neighborhood from Chinese expats who took Christmas break in China. That was much nastier as I spent a few days lethargic and mostly asleep, and was dry coughing for so long it eventually began being painful to my lungs to cough more.
 

Watchman72

Sparrow
Whatever I got at the start of 2020 I’m pretty sure was an early variant of COVID because it arrived in the neighborhood from Chinese expats who took Christmas break in China. That was much nastier as I spent a few days lethargic and mostly asleep, and was dry coughing for so long it eventually began being painful to my lungs to cough more.
I've had a similar experience in January 2020. I was sick for nearly 3 weeks. For about a week I only got out of bed to go to work and hopped back in bed when I got home. At that time nobody had even heard of covid. I thought it was just the flu, and I didn't understand why I was sick for weeks. Usually the flu only knocks me out for a few days.
 
Anyone here actually got some form of Covid?
What are the chances that this virus just becomes less deadly with time (like the flu)?

I really want to go and leave Europe, and live in Mexico, in some small village. But Covid still scares me (it's a lot worse in Mexico apparently). They really did a great job scaring the population.
No, they did a good job scaring YOU. Are you 75 years old with prior conditions? NO? Then what is stopping you? Your ancestors would be confused if they were told that one of their distant progeny would be scared to travel because he may pick up a virus he would most likely not die from. Back then one stepped on a rusty nail and then dyed in agony two weeks later. And let's not forget TB which was still rampant, and a laundry list of sexual diseases.

Go out there and live your life mate - it's God's gift to you, so try to earn that privilege by making every single day count.
 

Kentemo

Robin
Gold Member
True, it scares me, and many other people in my country. And I am starting to question it more and more every day.

Nothing besides fear is stopping me at this point.
 

MtnMan

Woodpecker
True, it scares me, and many other people in my country. And I am starting to question it more and more every day.

Nothing besides fear is stopping me at this point.
There is literally nothing about this virus that should scare you. There is an infinite amount of things you face on a daily basis that are statistically more likely to harm you than this BS.
 

aynrus

Kingfisher
The reason I push Japan on people is because it’s the one developed economy with super low obesity and divorce rates. Clean air and appreciation for nature.

Highly educated and law abiding populace that won’t even cross the street on a red light.

Women understand the trade off of motherhood and are wonderful companions on the whole. Very loving and supporting but capable too.

Japan isn’t cheap or easy but that’s good because you put up with less riff raff.

It’s also isolated so migrants can never flood the borders and overwhelm the system like Europe.

It’s population will shrink by half in the next generation. The government is already making it easier for educated specialists to go work there.
People who won't cross the street on the red light...is it a good or bad thing?
To me it's a bad thing, I guess. I come from the world of crossing on the red light.
Japan's corporatism is well-known...and culture of obedience, fitting-in and high sacrifices for the "employer".
Also, isn't Japan extra-high on mask compliance?
It should be easy to enslave people who're already very obedient and law-abiding to the extreme....that's what's seen in the US, where general law-abiding nature had turned the other way.

I was in a grocery store in Southern West Virginia today and everyone entering was sanitizing their shopping carts, one after another... if this is happening in West Virginia, I guess it's hopeless.
 
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aynrus

Kingfisher
Didn’t the Bush family buy huge tracts of land in Paraguay?
Yes, they did buy around 100K-300K acres, but it was 10 years ago I think. Land prices are very high there now....
Paraguay has some land-related tensions as the Natives aren't happy about losing their land, there've been acts of occupying private land, etc.
 
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