Escape From 'The New Normal'?

[aynrus]

No, that indeed sounds pretty bad. My friend is outside Moscow. Maybe its better there. But overall it does not sound appealing at all. I guess she would like to lure me there

Oh, a female friend....she probably will tell you anything, yep, to lure you there, I'd take that stuff with a grain of salt. But yes Moscow has the most restrictions. And Southern Russia probably has the least mask wearing. Russia situation is wait and see now, got to see where it's going. Turkey flights into Russia are still banned until July, by the way.
Foreigners are subject to random airport testing. Foreigners have different requirements than citizens: have to take 1 PCR test to fly there, but in the airport on arrival can be selected for more testing.

 

[aynrus]

It looks like European Council might try to block all flights in-out of Belarus from landing in Europe airports. This would really affect being able to get in and out of Belarus as Turkey is part of European Concil too, at the same time Belarus land borders are mostly closed (non-residents can leave it by land once in 6 months, but being allowed into bordering European countries is going to be a problem now unless one got EU papers).
The bad thing is that Ukraine is preparing to shut down flights to/from Belarus, on orders from EU, this would cut off bypass/escape air route through Ukraine.

 

[The 1 Duke]

Freedom is dead in all Western nations, including NZ and AU.

It all started with removing firearms from the public. Canada and the U.S. are next.

 

[The 1 Duke]

There is no escape. I'm in a rural area of a basically third world country locked up in a Covid quarantine facility (it's kind of like prison in the sense that I can't leave and am constantly monitored with cameras). Also, the gov't has legalized abortion and will probably legalize a bunch of other satanic stuff too. I am almost as far away from globohomo command central as you can get, and I'm facing worse stuff in certain ways than people in Western countries are. There is no escape. Pray to God that He guide you and your family through the times ahead and accept you into His kingdom if you don't make it.

Lord Jesus Christ son of God, have mercy on me a sinner.

That prayer is a good place to start.

Not many years left, I can not wait myself.
GOD bless.

 

[hkhathaj]

I'm in a rural area of a basically third world country locked up in a Covid quarantine facility (it's kind of like prison in the sense that I can't leave and am constantly monitored with cameras).

How do you mean it? Is it temporary due to a positive test? Or are you locked there forever? Elaborate please!

 

[hkhathaj]

I have heard that Romania allows tourist entry without a vaccine card or any restriction from countries that are low on covid (green).

 

[Don Quixote]

It looks like European Council might try to block all flights in-out of Belarus from landing in Europe airports. This would really affect being able to get in and out of Belarus as Turkey is part of European Concil too, at the same time Belarus land borders are mostly closed (non-residents can leave it by land once in 6 months, but being allowed into bordering European countries is going to be a problem now unless one got EU papers).
The bad thing is that Ukraine is preparing to shut down flights to/from Belarus, on orders from EU, this would cut off bypass/escape air route through Ukraine.

Looks like they did this. Now all flights are re-routed through the Baltics to avoid crossing over into Belarussian airspace. Because Belarus dared to enforce its laws? I don't really understand how anyone thinks this is anything but politically motivated. Belarus is obviously next on their chopping block, with all of this coup-incitement stuff. Now they are trying to isolate/strangle and divide the country.

 

[Easy_C]

They're actually mad because Belarus has successfully shut down the coup attempts.

Same as in Myanmar. There has been a trend lately of color revolutions failing because, absent any need to pretend to be democratic to maintain the moral high ground against the West, these "regimes" are free to just crush the astroturfed agitators.

 

[Mountaineer]

They're actually mad because Belarus has successfully shut down the coup attempts.

Same as in Myanmar. There has been a trend lately of color revolutions failing because, absent any need to pretend to be democratic to maintain the moral high ground against the West, these "regimes" are free to just crush the astroturfed agitators.

Let's hope it's a trend.

 

[aynrus]

Flights from Minsk, Belarus generally go to Moscow, Turkey, Egypt, Israel, Kiyv, Tbilisi/Georgia,Tunisia plus to various EU countries.
EU countries will probably all close their airspace now, Ukraine is closing starting tomorrow.
Turkey haven't said anything yet, but flying to Turkey, planes would have to fly around Ukraine, which is going to get long and expensive. Erdogan might not shut down Belarus flights just to show EU he's own man. Not clear if Georgia closes its airspace.

There'll be a lot of extra travel problems for people in Belarus and even Russia now.
Can only hope that airlines won't want to deal with extra detours and expenses and the ban won't be long or total.

 

[Spearhead]

There're a couple things:
1) Serbia really wants to show EU that it's following its orders. And EU orders were harsh lockdowns and high vaxx rate. Right now Serbia is giving 25 euros to anyone who'd get vaxxed. Current Serbian government badly wants the country to join the EU. They were set for 2025 joining date, but Kosovo situation is preventing this. My guess is Serbian government is trying to use the hoax restrictions as payment for some Kosovo concessions.

2) Serbia was central/dominant country of Communist Yugoslavia. Other countries, such as Croatia, were/are against Communists and Russia (Serbia is pro-Russia and was pro-USSR) and Croatia had their people fighting on the side of Nazis in WW2. Serbia is different from countries like Croatia. You have to look at history of Balkans and Yugoslavia to see where it all is coming from. Serbian mandatory adult vaccination law is straight USSR/Yugoslavia/Communist stuff.

Serbia will peak at about 50%, the other half will not take it. They never had Soviet style communism because their natural Serbian character would revolt. It will be interesting to watch but they would never see use of force unless they reach 75-80% vax than the real face of democracy will reveal itself.
You have a bad read on the Serbian character.

 

[aynrus]

Serbia will peak at about 50%, the other half will not take it. They never had Soviet style communism because their natural Serbian character would revolt. It will be interesting to watch but I can never see use of force unless they reach 75-80% vax than the real face of democracy will reveal itself.
You have a bad read on the Serbian character.

Really? Socialist Yugoslavia was a Communist country, by all means and Serbia was a central country of it, even before the Communism in old Yugolsavia.
Serbia has mandatory adult vaccination law, all I need to know, frankly, character or not, whatever, there's a law which was recently updated.
Not epidemic emergency law, regular schedule vaccines are mandatory by the law.
This law is a remnant of Socialism. There're many ways to enforce things without using direct force.

 

[aynrus]

They're actually mad because Belarus has successfully shut down the coup attempts.

Same as in Myanmar. There has been a trend lately of color revolutions failing because, absent any need to pretend to be democratic to maintain the moral high ground against the West, these "regimes" are free to just crush the astroturfed agitators.

Unfortunately this will hasten the end of Lukashenko's rule, not a smart move at all.
By the way, you can't even comment on a forum or a news source in Belarus without having your phone number verified by text message, and the number has to be local, that's the level of tracking that's happening and it's been this way for a while, freedom...not.

Do people all anti-socialism people on here realize Belarus is highly socialist regime, it's pretty much official?

 

[Spearhead]

Really? Socialist Yugoslavia was a Communist country, by all means and Serbia was a central country of it, even before the Communism in old Yugolsavia.
Serbia has mandatory adult vaccination law, all I need to know, frankly, character or not, whatever, there's a law which was recently updated.
There're many ways to enforce things without using direct force.

Socialist Yugoslavia was not Soviet style communism, it was a lot more loose. People could also leave/immigrate out or come back, not so in the Iron Curtain.
Communism does not come from Serbs, Serbs had their own Chetnik movement in WWII they lost to the communist, because England and America supplied the communist partisans with weapons. Serbia was a central country of Yugoslavia because it is most populated and had most brain power in the region, that's just infrastructure and logistics, it has nothing to do with allegiance to communism.

 

[aynrus]

Socialist Yugoslavia was not Soviet style communism, it was a lot more loose. People could also leave/immigrate out or come back, not so in the Iron Curtain.
Communism does not come from Serbs, Serbs had their own Chetnik movement in WWII they lost to the communist, because England and America supplied the communist partisans with weapons. Serbia was a central country of Yugoslavia because it is most populated and had most brain power in the region, that's just infrastructure and logistics, it has nothing to do with allegiance to communism.

All Eastern Europe countries were more loose than inside USSR, even Baltic republics were. My parents had been to Socialist Yugoslavia. Communism does not come from the Serbs but there's heavy legacy and one can not escape this. Serbs have been the most supportive of USSR and Russia (of USSR because of Russia, specifically/ties to Russia) out of entire Yugoslavia, and Communism came from Russia.
I did not state that Serbia was central due to communism, I mentioned it being central to old Kingdom as well.

I live in the US, but grew up and lived in Socialist block as well. One can spot those remnants of socialism real easy in Eastern Europe from a distance and from fundamentally different political system.

 

[aynrus]

My guess is Belarus plane grounding move was ordered by Putin and is something beyond Lukashenko's game.
Protasevish the arrested blogger is a small fish and hardly anyone knew who he was, actually, certainly not any kind of opposition leader.
If they wanted to get him they could have either kidnapped him or gave him some poison - the showy plane move isn't about Protasevich, it's just an escalation and throwing a challenge.

In the meanwhile Belarus is really short on money and Belavia airline is near bankrupt, now might lose 66% of remaining business and it's very hard to for regular Belarus person to get out of the country right now, air tickets became very expensive after Lukashenko closed the land borders both in-and-out - ticket prices went up beyond the reach of a regular citizen.
It's easy to say things being a wealthy Westerner....many live in poverty in Belarus, some basic things taken for granted in wealthy countries are a luxury there. Most young people and educated specialists want to leave and move to the West. Further escalation and more poverty - and a regular apolitical person might turn on the government, just like it happened 30 years ago. I just hope Venezuela route won't be taken. A country has to pick its battles, basically, just he reality.

 

[greenwolf]

My guess is Belarus plane grounding move was ordered by Putin and is something beyond Lukashenko's game.
Protasevish the arrested blogger is a small fish and hardly anyone knew who he was, actually, certainly not any kind of opposition leader.
If they wanted to get him they could have either kidnapped him or gave him some poison - the showy plane move isn't about Protasevich, it's just an escalation and throwing a challenge.

In the meanwhile Belarus is really short on money and Belavia airline is near bankrupt, now might lose 66% of remaining business and it's very hard to for regular Belarus person to get out of the country right now, air tickets became very expensive after Lukashenko closed the land borders both in-and-out - ticket prices went up beyond the reach of a regular citizen.
It's easy to say things being a wealthy Westerner....many live in poverty in Belarus, some basic things taken for granted in wealthy countries are a luxury there. Most young people and educated specialists want to leave and move to the West. Further escalation and more poverty - and a regular apolitical person might turn on the government, just like it happened 30 years ago. I just hope Venezuela route won't be taken. A country has to pick its battles, basically, just he reality.

Its very clear that the eu want Lukashenko gone since August in my view.
The west however is not as strong as it thinks it is and as stated above these color revolutions begin to fail. Hong Kong failed, Myanmar (protesters showed r2p signs where one wondered how these people know about r2p), Belarus failed, Tanzania head got a "heart attack" but no color revolution happened there either although stuff has been tried.

Do you think this airplane move has been somehow a false flag to force something on Belarus?

I speak no Russian, so that whole area is hard to get infos from firsthand without translators. (also a reason I most likely stay clear of going there).

 

[Deusleveult]

Really? Socialist Yugoslavia was a Communist country, by all means and Serbia was a central country of it, even before the Communism in old Yugolsavia.
Serbia has mandatory adult vaccination law, all I need to know, frankly, character or not, whatever, there's a law which was recently updated.
Not epidemic emergency law, regular schedule vaccines are mandatory by the law.
This law is a remnant of Socialism. There're many ways to enforce things without using direct force.

Just because some serbian politicians are cucking to enter the EU and get EU money doesn't mean that the whole population are cucks too.
Quite the contrary actually.
This is not western europe, they have had to fight to preserve their identity for centuries up until now, something us in the west have forgotten, taking peace ad prosperity for granted. They've been screwed over for centuries, by the turks and muslims, then by the communists and from the nineties to now by the UN (Kosovo, the heart of their homeland, given to muslims).
They are a proud people and they don't forget the betrayal from the western countries so I doubt anything coming from globalists will be welcome really well and accepted easily unlike in the west.
I'm telling you this because I've been there and came to know them despite the negative stereotypes that are portrayed about them in the west.

 

[WhiteWolf]

They are a proud people and they don't forget the betrayal from the western countries so I doubt anything coming from globalists will be welcome really well and accepted easily unlike in the west.

Thats what i thought too, untill i saw the vaccination rates in Serbia.

 

[Deusleveult]

Thats what i thought too, untill i saw the vaccination rates in Serbia.

There are scared people everywhere for sure.