Escape From 'The New Normal'?

All Eastern Europe countries were more loose than inside USSR, even Baltic republics were. My parents had been to Socialist Yugoslavia. Communism does not come from the Serbs but there's heavy legacy and one can not escape this. Serbs have been the most supportive of USSR and Russia (of USSR because of Russia, specifically/ties to Russia) out of entire Yugoslavia, and Communism came from Russia.
I did not state that Serbia was central due to communism, I mentioned it being central to old Kingdom as well.

I live in the US, but grew up and lived in Socialist block as well. One can spot those remnants of socialism real easy in Eastern Europe from a distance and from fundamentally different political system.

The only reason Serbs tried to keep Yugoslavia intact was because their people would be partitioned to different countries. But during the wars the Serbs in Croatia and Bosnia always felt like Belgrade was not really helping them and they were communists not Chetniks. Serbs are not pro-commie, but pro Russia, though they don't understand that Russia is not ruled by Russians, kind of like the Putin fanboys in here. They think Russia is a super version of Serbia.
But back to the vaccine issue, it cannot be forced with violence as actual fight would break out. People keep pointing to the vax percentage, which is no different than anywhere else in Europe. The liberal kumbaya types exists in all white countries, good luck finding a country or state where 90% of people will not take the jab.
 

aynrus

Pelican
The only reason Serbs tried to keep Yugoslavia intact was because their people would be partitioned to different countries. But during the wars the Serbs in Croatia and Bosnia always felt like Belgrade was not really helping them and they were communists not Chetniks. Serbs are not pro-commie, but pro Russia, though they don't understand that Russia is not ruled by Russians, kind of like the Putin fanboys in here. They think Russia is a super version of Serbia.
But back to the vaccine issue, it cannot be forced with violence as actual fight would break out. People keep pointing to the vax percentage, which is no different than anywhere else in Europe. The liberal kumbaya types exists in all white countries, good luck finding a country or state where 90% of people will not take the jab.
Serbs are not pro-commmie. By there is communist legacy all over various aspects of life remaining from those times (and you can find it in most or all EE countries); mandatory vaccination law is an example of that legacy - such laws and acceptance of them are hailing from that time, one of the legs of the Communist system was government-controlled medicine including compulsory medical treatments and examinations. Such laws are a legacy of time when governments forced things easily and people accepted that. Most accepted government force anywhere in Socialist block; the fighters against it were either killed or escaped to the West or were forced to live in silence/hiding.
This has little to do with spirit of the nation, as there're a few very freedom-loving Caucasus mountains nations which all submitted to USSR, with anyone disagreeing killed or deported to Siberia, and whole nations relocated sometimes.
In USSR there were things like mandatory yearly fluorography for TB prevention, etc. Realistically it was enforced through employers, but everyone had to be employed in USSR, other than housewives. Then there was a system of psychiatric prisons and compulsory psychiatric treatment, mandatory vaccinations, etc. Russia has mandatory and very invasive yearly employee medical examinations for many (most) professions, this is hailing straight from Communist legacy. People not accustomed to these things simply wouldn't accept this, but the rule of socialism in those countries got people used to these ideas/got them into their heads, that it's normal for government to meddle in indvidual's strictly private medical affairs and records.

People lived and live in a double-reality system as a result. Serbia mandatory adult vaccination law is bypassable by bribing a doctor, yet people don't rebel against the law and the parliament amends the law to expand it to cover all diseases in blanket fashion (to be picked by executive branch of government) instead of specific fixed list that was earlier. In the US, mandatory adult vaccination is only accepted via precedent/case law in the case of public health emergency (for deadly disease like smallpox, that was the precedent). No emergency = no mandatory vaccination, and emergency powers are time-limited in all state legal systems. Socialism was what brought that forced medicine into public acceptance,in ex-socialist block countries. In Russia, people do not question invasive mandatory medical examinations for work or required state psychiatric hospital evaluations to be able to drive, etc, this is hailing from communist times.

And yes, that initial fast wave of vaxxing had been stalling in Serbia. Serbia had been sending a lot of vaccines outside to other countries as a gift, I guess to avoid spoilage as they're running out of volunteers.
Russia is only 9% vaxxed or so right now, but this might be just logistics and lack of money.
 
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aynrus

Pelican
I think Lukashenko got played by Putin, most likely. The only real winner in the plane incident is Putin: Lukashenko is now completely at his mercy, isolated and with nowhere else to turn to and needing Russian money to bail out Belavia airline too. I'm pretty sure Putin used Lukashenko's temper to introduce "great" idea to ground 3rd party plane with 3rd countries' citizens on board (who got daylights scared out of them not to mention missing connections, etc) to punish EU. Indications there were 4 Russian secret service agents on board tracking the blogger, Lukashenko wouldn't dare to pull this off without Putin. It would be no biggie for Putin's secret service to kidnap or terrorize the blogger in a 3rd country of course, but he chose the plane grounding. Now Lukashenko has to do what Russia tells him.

Putin is just playing chess, as usual. A week ago, Russian ex-president/high official Medvedev said there needed to be mandatory vaccination. There was a big hoopla, and a large territory Sakha/Yakutia (12 times the size of UK and 7 times the size of California) tried to issue mandatory vaccination order, which failed after outcry and they backtracked limiting the order to customer-facing employees and teachers. Now Putin said he's against mandatory vaccinations for all/shouldn't happen. So now Mededev is a bad guy and Putin is painting himself as a good guy. Pretty sure Medvedev made the statement on request from Putin.
 
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I think Lukashenko got played by Putin, most likely. The only real winner in the plane incident is Putin: Lukashenko is now completely at his mercy, isolated and with nowhere else to turn to and needing Russian money to bail out Belavia airline too. I'm pretty sure Putin used Lukashenko's temper to introduce "great" idea to ground 3rd party plane with 3rd countries' citizens on board (who got daylights scared out of them not to mention missing connections, etc) to punish EU. Indications there were 4 Russian secret service agents on board tracking the blogger, Lukashenko wouldn't dare to pull this off without Putin. It would be no biggie for Putin's secret service to kidnap or terrorize the blogger in a 3rd country of course, but he chose the plane grounding. Now Lukashenko has to do what Russia tells him.

Putin is just playing chess, as usual. A week ago, Russian ex-president/high official Medvedev said there needed to be mandatory vaccination. There was a big hoopla, and a large territory Sakha/Yakutia (12 times the size of UK and 7 times the size of California) tried to issue mandatory vaccination order, which failed after outcry and they backtracked limiting the order to customer-facing employees and teachers. Now Putin said he's against mandatory vaccinations for all/shouldn't happen. So now Mededev is a bad guy and Putin is painting himself as a good guy. Pretty sure Medvedev made the statement on request from Putin.
Interesting take. He now has a good buffer zone with Belarus which cannot do anything else then follow Russia.

Do you think Putin tried this to gauge the sentiment about mandatory vaxx?
I heard in Sowjet times they were also pretty much mandating vaxxes e.g. in the DDR.
Russia is also planning to announce golden visa for residency. https://best-citizenships.com/2020/11/23/russia-golden-visa/
 
Yoga is also proven to be an effective treatment for PTSD in war vets.

Just because it's associated with pregnant moms and annoying hippies doesn't mean there is no merit to it. Being a man is above all doing what works and is good for you despite what other people think.

A couple of decades ago you were regarded as weak if you didn't smoke. Knowing what you know today you probably still wouldn't do it and instead laugh at those fools falling for big tabacco's brainwashing.

Same with yoga.
You better smoke than do yoga. It is not compatible with being a Christian.
 

berenmsc

Sparrow
Not only does Fr. Lambert talk about it, when listing the entry points of demons, but also many Orthodox people. I even think the Greek banned it.
You're telling me that planks and push ups are somehow entry points for demons? Modern yoga only appeared around the 18th Century and brought to the west - it's simply an exercise regime.

Not everything that isn't strictly Christian is demonic.

There is a talk by J. Krishnamurti who explains this.
 

JackAn

Pigeon
You're telling me that planks and push ups are somehow entry points for demons? Modern yoga only appeared around the 18th Century and brought to the west - it's simply an exercise regime.

Not everything that isn't strictly Christian is demonic.

There is a talk by J. Krishnamurti who explains this.
  • Rishikesh, India. This city is named after the pagan god Vishnu, ‘the lord of the senses.’ Rishikesh is the 'yoga capital of the world.' It is generally accepted to be the place on earth where yoga originated from.
  • The literal meaning of yoga is 'yoke.' "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers."
  • Through yoga, little by little, one is harnessing shakti, which yogis refer to as the Divine Mother, the 'dark goddess' connected with other major Hindu gods. This energy isn't the Holy Spirit, and This isn't aerobics or gymnastics
  • Yoga is beneath this umbrella of Hinduism, and in many ways is the pole of the umbrella. It acts as a missionary arm for Hinduism and the New Age outside of India
  • the postures of yoga are not religiously neutral. All of the classic asanas have spiritual significance.
  • To think of yoga as a mere physical movement is tantamount to “saying that baptism is just an underwater exercise.” writes Swami Param of the Classical Yoga Hindu Academy and Dharma Yoga ashram in Manahawkin, N.J.
  • Teachers and students typically greet each other with the Sanskrit ‘namaste,’ which means, “I honor the Divine within you.” This is an affirmation of pantheism and denial of the true God revealed in the Bible.
  • Yoga is a psychosomatic practice, an interaction between mind, body, and spirit(s).
  • In his book Seven Schools of Yoga, Ernest Wood begins his description of Hatha yoga by stating, “I must not refer to any of these Hatha Yoga practices without sounding a severe warning. Many people have brought upon themselves incurable illness and even madness by practicing them without providing the proper conditions of body and mind. The yoga books are full of such warnings....
  • If an Orthodox Christian wants to exercise, he or she may swim, jog, hike, walk, and do stretching exercises, aerobics, or Pilates. These are safe alternatives to yoga.
source: http://orthodoxinfo.com/general/yoga-and-orthodoxy.pdf

'It's just a plank bro.'
Why don't you just do planks and press ups? I've done planks and press ups. It never required me to get down doggy style with kali worshippers.
Lets be real, any man attending yoga classes is there in 90%+ of cases to stare at ass in yoga pants

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You're telling me that planks and push ups are somehow entry points for demons? Modern yoga only appeared around the 18th Century and brought to the west - it's simply an exercise regime.

Not everything that isn't strictly Christian is demonic.

There is a talk by J. Krishnamurti who explains this.
It is not simply an exercise regime. The worship of demons is an integral part of it. Look at all these people getting drawn away from Christ by this pagan practice. Just read the post under this one to understand the magnitude of yoga.
 

Edin

Robin
Serbia will peak at about 50%, the other half will not take it. They never had Soviet style communism because their natural Serbian character would revolt. It will be interesting to watch but they would never see use of force unless they reach 75-80% vax than the real face of democracy will reveal itself.
You have a bad read on the Serbian character.

I had a first hand experience of the Serbian character when crossing their border from Montenegro in mid August last year. The custom officers harassed me to pay 180 euros for unnecessary green card insurance and they stripped my car down looking for something "suspicious". They held me there for five+ hours, insulted me and humiliated me without any provocation from my side.

I have a Croatian friend who had told me about his torture by the Serbs when he was caught by them during the 90s. So I made sure I followed their requests and I kept my mouth shut as they were absolutely no other witnesses at the check point. It was five of them against me. They were just bitter and twisted for no good reason. Later on I wrote to their Interior ministry to file a complaint but I received absolutely no response whatsoever.

A lot of other people I know have reported similar experience when passing through Serbian check points.

The Serbs invented and popularized the awful Chalga music that is now dominant in the Balkans.

Croats, on the other hand, a completely different type of people. Even the Montenegrins are different from the Serbs and more pleasant.

As I have heard it from Serbians themselves, they say: We are born fucked in head!
 

Zagor

Woodpecker
We from the region call it balkan mentality. It's present in every country in the Balkans. In Croatia it is less pronounced than in Serbia because here it's mingled with mediterranean and central european elements.
 

Edin

Robin
We from the region call it balkan mentality. It's present in every country in the Balkans. In Croatia it is less pronounced than in Serbia because here it's mingled with mediterranean and central european elements.

Balkan mentality sounds like a gross generalization as it would imply that the majority of people are like that but they are not. Even the Serbs.
 

Zagor

Woodpecker
Balkan mentality sounds like a gross generalization as it would imply that the majority of people are like that but they are not. Even the Serbs.
Of course it's a generalization. Generalization means taking a large group of people and noticing somewhat of a pattern in their behaviour. And there is a pattern. Doesn't mean all people are like that, but also doesn't mean the generalization is baseless.
 

aynrus

Pelican
Interesting take. He now has a good buffer zone with Belarus which cannot do anything else then follow Russia.

Do you think Putin tried this to gauge the sentiment about mandatory vaxx?
I heard in Sowjet times they were also pretty much mandating vaxxes e.g. in the DDR.
Russia is also planning to announce golden visa for residency. https://best-citizenships.com/2020/11/23/russia-golden-visa/

This is pretty much a reality... Lukashenko had been already siting on a yacht with Putin yesterday and squeezed a half-a-billion "loan" out of him. Lukashenko had been playing the same cat-and-mouse game with Putin for many years.
He'd meet up with Putin and promise more integration with Russia, beg for money, take the money (including reduced gas/oil prices), but would find a way to avoid living up to his promises, to preserve his own power and not to give it up to Putin. (a lot of people in Russia are fed up with financial aid to Belarus).
There's an opinion that there's really not much need/importance in buffer zones anymore due to long-range weapons and anti-weapon systems. It's more about historical closeness with Belarus.
Golden visa residency in Russia really cracks me up...Kolyma has lots of mosquitoes and where there're no mosquitos there're still gopniks and cold winter. I suspect it'd be more of "no extradition" residency visa.

Speaking of Russia...here's an article from major Russian newspaper about how owning a computer or smartphone is basically is becoming a required thing to see a doctor, they made it hard to impossible otherwise, elderly having major trouble. In many ways Great Reset is way ahead of even USA there, digital concentration camp had advanced even further there and digital currency is coming soon (to wipe out everyione's savings, no doubt)
 
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Zagor

Woodpecker
Obviously nobody cares about South Sudan, but it's not good that any county introduces such measures. It sets a precedent for other to follow.
 

zamfir112

Woodpecker
For me Any country that enforces face masks lockdowns curfews whatever is not worth living in. Apart from Sweden dont know Any other.issue with Sweden feminist as hell and Cold/boring
 
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