Escape game: you're being hunted by the police and must get out of the country

[Tengen]

In New York City you have been charged with a murder you did not commit. The powers-that-be WILL put you away for a long time even though you are innocent.

I want to take the other direction and make sure you are way above suspicion.

I remember reading a news article how someone got acquitted for murder because their fB status updates showed they were nowhere near the scene of the crime. Or even take some time-stamped location-noted pics from your mobile.

The bad thing is you are in a way relying on constant surveillance of your activities to prove your innocence, and having such information on you will get in the way of an escape. However if your goal is merely to build a case for your defense, maybe the above is plausible.

 

[Deb Auchery]

I've thought about this more and more lately. Especially as I have a fancy for teenage girls in FSU, always a chance one could tell me she's 17 when in fact she's 15 and her family will try to extort money from me, which is not so uncommon in Ukraine, it happened to a friend of a friend. I would probably just take a traditional route out of the country like a bus over the border somewhere.

If my business dealings went wrong then I would go to a country that doesn't have an extradition treaty such as Brazil. I would be happy to live out my days there, I would get my family to come and visit every few months

 

[vinman]

A few other things to consider. Whatever old habits you had will be key in tracking you. Like working out religiously, books that you like, places that you would frequent, etc. You can't make friends. You have to find a place where people mind their own business, and want the same from you. Watch the profiles on Americas Most Wanted. They pretty much tell you what to avoid doing when you're on the lamb.

 

[cellblock4]

One thing people may want in their backpacks is prepaid debit/credit cards that are paid by cash. I think you can get them in large denominations. If the situation was such that it was premeditated you might be able to buy a plane ticket from NYC to Chicago with your real credit card departing an hour after you committed a crime. Simultaneously, you use the prepaid debit card to purchase a plane ticket with the same airline under John doe to say from Chicago to LA. Once you land in Chicago you are already behind security and have that boarding pass printed. When the authorities catch up they know your last known location was in Chicago. From LA I'd try to get into Mexico at the Tijuana border. A lot of underage college students cross over so they can drink. I'd try to pass myself off as a San Diego state party animal. From there I'd somehow try to find a route to brazil.

 

[porscheguy]

I sat and pondered this for a while. The reality is that most people wouldn't last very long on the run. Living on the run and always looking over your shoulder is exhausting for most people. Odds are, you're going to get busted sooner or later.

 

[speakeasy]

I'd love to hear how the master of escape game, D.B. Cooper covered his tracks and still hasn't been caught in 40 years. That's an amazing story.

 

[Screwston]

There's a documentary called Erasing David about a British guy who hires detectives to try and locate him after he disappears for a month.

 

[Kitsune]

There's a documentary called Erasing David about a British guy who hires detectives to try and locate him after he disappears for a month.

Yeah, but that guy is really bad.

He goes to France, then comes back.
He lives in a tent, visits his Dad, and gets caught by going to a hospital visit with his wife.

He also posts to a blog and thinks that they are using super-computer tracking wizardry using a chip in his bag or something. It is like he didn't even read anything about this sort of thing before he decided to go incognito, and he had ages to prepare seeing as he knew he was doing it.

 

[qazwsx]

Have more than 1 passport definitely helps.

I think someone could take some tips in this thread and write a script for a thriller trying to emulate "The Fugitive" (1993).

 

[Roustabout]

Great topic. I can't add much. Taciturning seems to have the most plausible plan. I would catch a bus to Texas. From there, I would pay a truck driver to take me across the border into Mexico for cash (I'm assuming a bus trip would be too risky). I would head to a larger city, lay low for a couple of weeks or months, depending on my cash situation. I would then find someone to create a fake passport. Book a flight to Brazil (assuming they still have no extradition), and stay.



Once in Brazil, I contact my criminal defense attorney. Everything said between the two of you is subject to attorney client privilege, so he/she cannot disclose you're location. You then begin working on you're defense. The fact that you ran will hurt you in your defense. But, I would vigorously defend myself b/c regardless of how happy I might be in Brazil, I don't want the U.S. government on my ass for the rest of my life.

 

[cool]

Get caught and go to prison? If those are the stakes, I wouldn't be taken alive.

I would try to get to a country that doesn't have extradition treaties with the US (Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, Brazil etc) without confronting the authorities. But if a cop spotted me, it would either be I kill him or him kill me. I'm not a violent person, but there's no way I would go to prison.

 

[rlongo924]

If I was able to get cash, I'd go to a rental car agency and get a car. After that I'd get rid of my cards and also my cell phone. Did you know that authorities can trace your phone even if it's turned off (http://www.thechicagosyndicate.com/2006/12/roving-bug-in-cell-phones-used-by-fbi.html )? I'd ditch it completely.

At the first rest stop, I would shave my head and beard... at least look as different as I possibly can.

If I wasn't able to rent a car, it would be more difficult to get out of the city..

That's crazy how they can listen and trace you through your phone even if you have it off. I would leave the phone on and put it on a bus headed for some random place, and put the laptop on another train or vehicle that's headed far away if I could. That would buy you a lot of time and give the authorities a false lead or two.

 

[MikeCF]

Be very beta.

How many guys walk with strong posture and present an appearance that allows them to take notice?

You'd need to go full beta immediately. Head down. Shoulders slouching. Self-esteem low. This way no one notices you.

No confrontations with anyone. Do not do anything anti-social like smoking. Do not do anything that might piss someone off. If someone cuts in front of you in line, don't say shit.

Don't give a cop any reason to make a routine stop.

Maintain good hygiene. If you are stinky or poorly groomed, you'll get noticed. If you look homeless, a cop might stop you.

Years ago a guy escape to the woods. He survived for a while. He got busted because when a cop stopped him digging through trash cans. A routine stop is what lead to his arrest.

Do not trust no one.

Don't trust your friends to have your back. Even a well-meaning friend is going to shit bricks when a cop calls him to say, "Harboring or assisting a fugitive from the law is a felony."

Delete your Facebook immediately. There are too many different pictures of you. Yes, your Facebook can be recovered. But you need short-term gains.

Time is on your side.

Americans have short attention spans. People forget things easily. Tomorrow will bring another tragedy. Just lay low.

Don't bring the heat. If you panic and do something stupid, you lose. Just survive.

Time is not on your side.

You need to make money without being noticed. El mech has the right idea. Seduce a fat woman.

How many times have you seen a fat woman stand behind her man, no matter what?

Show up at a bar. Make conversation. Tell her you just moved there and are getting back on your feet. She won't ask too many questions.

Also consider "gay for pay." If there's a local gay bar, find a nice gentleman. Be careful, though.

Gay professional men are the ones who can help a "sugar baby." They are also the ones most likely to have seen your picture on the news.

 

[Tuthmosis]

Also consider "gay for pay." If there's a local gay bar, find a nice gentleman. Be careful, though.

Gay professional men are the ones who can help a "sugar baby." They are also the ones most likely to have seen your picture on the news.

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[speakeasy]

^^ LOL, his post was solid up till that jump the shark moment there.

 

[el mechanico]

^^ LOL, his post was solid up till that jump the shark moment there.

I was going to say the same thing as Mike he's spot on with the using the gay dudes. I wouldn't fuck them but I would find one that looks like me and steal his id, passport and cash. You gotta do what you gotta do and who's the most venerable? Dudes looking to get laid. Look how many girls take shit from us. It's the same. Gay dudes love paying for shit to get some ass

 

[MikeCF]

Unless you're affiliated, you will get raped at Riker's Island.

I'm can take care of myself and yet you what I can do if four guys (who have "trained" as a team to rape) pin me down? Nothing.

If the difference between going to lock-up is me being "manly" or me getting cash from a gay dude...Choice is easy one to make.

You can grimace or whatever, but it's real talk. Prison is a fucked up place - moreso if you're a white dude.

 

[Kitsune]

So wait...

You're suggesting allowing yourself to be anally taken as a means of evading capture so as not to be anally taken?

 

[speakeasy]

Get caught and go to prison? If those are the stakes, I wouldn't be taken alive.

After you got used to prison, you'd think death was a worse fate. Why do you think everyone on death row enters endless appeals to get their sentence overturned? They don't want to die. As much as prison sucks, to a prisoner it's better than being dead.

I once read an interview with a prisoner talking about what it's like. He says eventually you get used to it. You adjust. Your get into a routine. You get up, have some coffee, breakfast, go work out. Some prisoners have jobs in prison too. Some have alcohol and drugs and sex(even with females). Read Roosh's post today about happiness. What he says is true, your brain starts to adjust. A shitty situation stops seeming so shitty after awhile and just starts to seem normal. I'm convinced that some dudes are even happy in prison. They get out and can't wait to go back because prison life is all they know. Behind bars, they might have respect, 3 free meals a day, free health care, a gym, and get to play basketball. Outside, you actually have real responsibilities if you want to survive.

 

[MikeCF]

So wait...

You're suggesting allowing yourself to be anally taken as a means of evading capture so as not to be anally taken?

75% of gay men are bottoms.

Gay men are betas, too. They want to rub your body and buy you shit.

Flirting with a gay guy or even letting one give you a BJ (that's what most want to do) is far different than having your face based on the ground and being wolf packed by 4 or more guys.

Plus, in prison, once you're raped...You're gonna get raped again.

People gotta do what they gotta do to survive. "Beneath my dignity" quickly becomes a moving standard.