ESPN will cut more than 100 employees today

Cr33pin

Peacock
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Chevy Woonsocket said:
Now the only problem is that with ESPN gone, even more TV's in the gym will be tuned to daytime TV drama crap. If somebody opened a gym with NO TV's I would pay a premium to go.

Be a shame if someone took an icepick to all the coax connections on those TV's.

The gym I joined in Vietnam (nicest gym I have seen anywhere in the world) had TV's everywhere.... an all they showed was UFC fights. I loved that fucking gym... an it was only like 50 bucks a month for a membership.
 

Fast Eddie

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Wait...does this mean I will have to figure out which players have "sneaky" athleticism and "deceptive" speed all on my own now???
 

floor7

Woodpecker
So far the list is a bunch of nobodies. The only one who seems to be someone I know is Jayson Stark. I really don't have a clue who the vast majority are. The Kellermans, Hills, smiths, etc don't seem like being axed.
 
floor7 said:
So far the list is a bunch of nobodies. The only one who seems to be someone I know is Jayson Stark. I really don't have a clue who the vast majority are. The Kellermans, Hills, smiths, etc don't seem like being axed.

A lot of the bigger names have taken salary cuts.

I'm not shedding a tear for any of them!
 

RIslander

Hummingbird
Cr33pin said:
Chevy Woonsocket said:
Now the only problem is that with ESPN gone, even more TV's in the gym will be tuned to daytime TV drama crap. If somebody opened a gym with NO TV's I would pay a premium to go.

Be a shame if someone took an icepick to all the coax connections on those TV's.

The gym I joined in Vietnam (nicest gym I have seen anywhere in the world) had TV's everywhere.... an all they showed was UFC fights. I loved that fucking gym... an it was only like 50 bucks a month for a membership.

Was it that Saigon gym located in an apartment building just outside D1? Had a couple of squat racks and an outdoor pool.
 

MajorStyles

Pelican
Chevy Woonsocket said:
If somebody opened a gym with NO TV's I would pay a premium to go...Be a shame if someone took an icepick to all the coax connections on those TV's.

My gym has about eight television screens. So even if you're listening to music, you catch the propaganda from afar. It's unavoidable, really. And the visual assault is never ending: sports talk with two women on the discussion panel, action movies with some 100 lb. girl beating up five guys, etc.

I'm with you...I would pay top dollar for a gym without TV screens.
 

Chunnel

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Len Elmore and Trent Dilfer were the noticeable ones I saw let go. I'm happy as a clam to see espn continue its descent down the toilet, but am a bit sad to see guys like this, who are extremely knowledgeable and articulate for the layman let go.

It continues to make me wonder what ESPNs endgame is. They currently do next to nothing in terms of real analysis and now they let their best (IMO) football analyst, top notch basketball commentator, and highly respected baseball reporter go, for what? More pandering to the least common denominator?

Continue digging your own grave ESPN
 

hv123

Woodpecker
Chunnel said:
Len Elmore and Trent Dilfer were the noticeable ones I saw let go. I'm happy as a clam to see espn continue its descent down the toilet, but am a bit sad to see guys like this, who are extremely knowledgeable and articulate for the layman let go.

It continues to make me wonder what ESPNs endgame is. They currently do next to nothing in terms of real analysis and now they let their best (IMO) football analyst, top notch basketball commentator, and highly respected baseball reporter go, for what? More pandering to the least common denominator?

Continue digging your own grave ESPN
Same as what usually happens in the corporate world when companies are in trouble. The "real" workers in the engine room will get sacked and the "customer focused," "soft skills" people will not. I.e the women won't get sacked.

Then it will probably fold (eventually).
 
At least they got rid of one ugly woman on the network Jane McManus.

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TravelerKai

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Chunnel said:
Len Elmore and Trent Dilfer were the noticeable ones I saw let go. I'm happy as a clam to see espn continue its descent down the toilet, but am a bit sad to see guys like this, who are extremely knowledgeable and articulate for the layman let go.

It continues to make me wonder what ESPNs endgame is. They currently do next to nothing in terms of real analysis and now they let their best (IMO) football analyst, top notch basketball commentator, and highly respected baseball reporter go, for what? More pandering to the least common denominator?

Continue digging your own grave ESPN

I can see Trent getting picked up easily by a competitor. Say what you want about him as a player, as an analyst he knows his shit.

He could do his own thing on his own platform or do scout stuff. Or he could chill. He probably has enough money.

Most layoffs are almost always the people with the highest payroll and bonus amounts.
 

Chunnel

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TravelerKai said:
Chunnel said:
Len Elmore and Trent Dilfer were the noticeable ones I saw let go. I'm happy as a clam to see espn continue its descent down the toilet, but am a bit sad to see guys like this, who are extremely knowledgeable and articulate for the layman let go.

It continues to make me wonder what ESPNs endgame is. They currently do next to nothing in terms of real analysis and now they let their best (IMO) football analyst, top notch basketball commentator, and highly respected baseball reporter go, for what? More pandering to the least common denominator?

Continue digging your own grave ESPN

I can see Trent getting picked up easily by a competitor. Say what you want about him as a player, as an analyst he knows his shit.

He could do his own thing on his own platform or do scout stuff. Or he could chill. He probably has enough money.

Most layoffs are almost always the people with the highest payroll and bonus amounts.

As a Ravens fan, he's a borderline HOFer in my book! I'd love to see Dilfer rival Gruden in some format by doing film studies with QBs going into the draft.
 

kosko

Peacock
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This was one of my bold predictions for 2017. ESPN has been a steaming pile and the people who run it have not figured out, or don't care that people clearly split sports and poltics and don't like both meshing together.

The next move is to shut down 538 and buy out Nate Silver but we will wait, he might be to expensive to get rid off currently.

On Trent Diller, ESPN is making a mistake. He was easily one of their best football analysts to the point I would sit down and pay attention if he was in the screen. The way he broke down NFL was money, way better then the rest of nobodies they had surrounding him. If Fox is smart they scoop him up and put him on FS1 and NFL Sundays on the main network.
 

TravelerKai

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scrambled said:

ABC -> Disney -> ESPN will continue to push rot. Like I posted about before, they are not going to reverse course. They will run this vehicle into a ditch and just layoff anyone making 250K+ and hire younger and cheaper.

Eventually, Disney will just sell it on a firesale when it is a complete dumpster fire.

Then they will buy something on the come up, like BleacherReport possibly, and repeat the same cycle again and again.

Marvel Comics is already beginning the journey. Some years for now, they will be on the chopping block or firesale.

I saw an article on the Chicago Times I think, where they said, the real test of ESPN's health will be when the Monday Night Football contract has to be renewed and the new MLB games contracts they have to play several games.

Me personally I think the NFL, the NBA, and MLB are going to push their own platforms alot more. I'm not convinced they want others with exclusive games or to spread it out on the big 3 networks. Aside from Fox and CBS, the others are losing money like crazy anyway.

Can ESPN afford to pay the NFL 2+ billion for a new Monday Night Football contract? I doubt it.
 

heavy

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Gold Member
For the most part, I stopped watching sports a while ago. I still pay attention. I'll watch College Football, a little NFL, the NBA finals.

I have too much going on in my life to care about sports, and in my spare time I'm not going to sit there ingesting human interest stories. No reason for me to pay for tv.

I still remember my dad ripping on my mom all the time for watching her stupid "human interest stories". Who'da thought they'd take over ESPN.
 

puckerman

Ostrich
Actually the decline of ESPN and the NFL could have been predicted many years ago. It was mainly during their coverage of a fiasco involving a female sports writer named Lisa Olson. In 1990, Olsen threw a fit about being "harassed" by football players in the locker room. While it was a minor issue to most of the public, it was all over the shows. It also showed that sports writers are generally "educated,"--therefore, very socialist, even though they work in an area where politics doesn't come up much.

Not surprisingly, the general public (including women) thinks that female reporters in a locker room is a bad idea. But this was a major cause for social justice warriors back then. I naturally what would happen if the tables are turned on this--male reporter going into female basketball locker room. But that isn't a concern because most people don't care about those sports.

Of course, the decline of the NFL also began with Paul Tagliabue. Here is an article on the Olson scandal:

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/11/28/sports/patriots-and-3-players-fined-in-olson-incident.html

I don't watch sports like I used to, but it was more fun back then as well.
 
This article from Outkick the Coverage shows just how bad ESPN's situation (and sports TV's situation) really is.

ESPN costs over $6 a month per subscriber, by far the highest total. TNT is second most expensive at $1.65. Nickelodeon is tenth most expensive at $0.75.

Cable channels are sold in blocks, not by individual channel. If consumers were able to eliminate ESPN from their roster, they'd save $72 a year.

Highly detailed article is here.
 

Fast Eddie

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SamuelBRoberts said:
A lot of the bigger names have taken salary cuts.

I'm not shedding a tear for any of them!

Translation of Aaron Schatz's (((ultra-high frequency vocalizations))) to human speech: "damn you goys for no longer wanting to pay me to call you racist!"
 
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