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European Paganism and their Modern Day LARPer's
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She's also big into the European identity/dissident right scene so it's no surprise. Varg has high status within that subculture and we all know how women feel about high status men - if it's just status within a niche.
y2k
Sparrow
There is a narrative of religion in the Islam, that the original religion of Mankind was that of Monotheism, and that over time men added gods (such as heroes representing virtues) to it, changing it from the true natural monotheism to artificial polytheism.
The Arabs of Mecca were upon the Monotheism of Abraham and Ishmael (pbut) until a man called Amr bin Luhayy brought idols with him from the north, the Levant. He saw there literature, architecture and the practice of polytheism. He was impressed and brought polytheism back with him to Mecca, and convinced the people to worship an idol he brought. This faced little resistance and the number of idols worshiped grew to around 360 by the 6th century CE.
Shirk - The Arabic term for worshiping other than God (lit. Association, compare Hebrew "Shituf"), it is the worst sin man can commit
There is more information on Islam in the datasheet thread and links to videos.
Merciful Servant has many well edited videos with Muslim lecturers.
So many cringe hippie types I met in my mid teenage to early adulthood years when I used to play in a band were into Wiccan arts. Easy lays (even for someone like me at that time with terrible game) , but rife with psychological & spiritual issues.
Side note:
Anyone seeking a woman, if she mentions having wiccan friends; avoid
TheOnceAndFutureKing
Woodpecker
The Alt Right Pagan Larpers lack basic understanding about theology and its history. They also leave out famously how Christians helped with kicking out Jews in over a hundred countries, and various Christian scholars, most famously Martin Luther wrote about how synagogues and copies of the Talmud should be burned.
Most likely Thor and Odin were real people made into gods.
This was the belief of the two main norse chroniclers Snorri Sturluson and Saxo Grammaticus and they were both devout christians.
If norse paganism was really evil and demonic, then those two christian chroniclers would not have written them down.
Unlike what Varg thinks though, I don't think there is any evidence that the christening of the germanic people was particularly violent or oppressive. The gods were already considered rather bad company and the worship of them the domain of witches and womenly men.
Asha Logos has a recent excerpt about this I believe in his subverted history series.
Conspiracy? Our Subverted History, Part 5.1 - The Oera Linda Book
One of the most striking discrepancies between how we currently understand our history, and how it was understood and presented by those of previous eras, is in the extent of the connection between the ancestors of modern western mankind to ancient …
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I'd agree that mist European pagans eventually voluntarily converted to Christianity. That wasn't always the case, of course. Charlemagne famously massacred about 5k pagan hold outs who refused to convert, and iirc there's evidence for bitter and bloody religious wars between Christians and pagans in early Anglo-Saxon England.
Where did you get your info about the worship of the Norse gods being considered for women and unmanly men? I'd be interested to know more.
NeoPaganism is just a baby boomer version of making up your own religion. As we all know there are no sacred texts like the vedas, gita, bible or koran. Yes there are some myths and stories but no true connection to the past. These myths can be important for exploring our humanity but they simply cannot stand on their own or provide any insight about the care of our souls.
We do know that the larping type Neo-Norse pagans do avoid the one tangible ritual pagans practiced that we know of. Human Sacrifice. I confronted one of these 'neo druids' about this once and his reply was essentially 'hey man, I don't have to follow that'. Then what do you have to follow? What you make up?
We do know that the larping type Neo-Norse pagans do avoid the one tangible ritual pagans practiced that we know of. Human Sacrifice. I confronted one of these 'neo druids' about this once and his reply was essentially 'hey man, I don't have to follow that'. Then what do you have to follow? What you make up?
One story, I've mentioned before is the story of Ottar from the Edda, in which a young man Ottar has his land taken by someone else, who claims they have inheritance to it. Ottar being an orphan has no pedigree and thus is a no one in norse society. Ottar worships Freya piously and asks her for help to get his land back. She agrees to help, but turns him into a pig, who she rides to see a seeres who tells Ottar of his ancestors. With that knowledge, Ottar can get his land back.
This is a very interesting story, because it shows that though the gods are mighty and answer to worship, it is still humiliating to need their help. Ottar is literally turned into a pig to be ridden by Freya.
And for what?
Had he know his ancestors, he would never have needed it.
I read that story as saying, best not to need the gods, cause you might not like what they give you.
There's this book called Lords of Chaos that discussed some interesting tidbits about Odin. The book's main focus isn't on Norse mythology - rather it's on the black metal scene, mostly on the Norwegian scene. However, Norse mythology has always been very influential on prominent members of that scene, with Varg Vikernens of Thulean Perspective fame being the most well known which means that the book looks into the lore in order to understand why these black metallers have the world views they do.
On page 212:
On the same page, a quote from a "comparative mythologist" named Georges Dumezil:
The next page has this quote, taken from an essay on the word Warg by a Mary Gerstein
On page 212:
On the same page, a quote from a "comparative mythologist" named Georges Dumezil:
The next page has this quote, taken from an essay on the word Warg by a Mary Gerstein
Interesting verse I came across while reading Psalms last night:
"God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods."
-Psalms 82:1 (KJV)
There's also that passage in 1 Corinthians 8:5-6 (also KJV here):
5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Almost as if the Bible's saying the pagan gods actually exist as entities of some sort. I've read that this was a common belief among early Christians, just that they considered them demons, although "among the gods" in the verse from Psalms does have a slightly different feel to it from the passage from Corinthians, almost as if whatever these "gods" among whom God judges aren't necessarily bad.
As an aside, I've been wondering how literally every statement David makes in Psalms about God and man's nature with Him is to be taken. There's a lot of very interesting, strange stuff in there.
"God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods."
-Psalms 82:1 (KJV)
There's also that passage in 1 Corinthians 8:5-6 (also KJV here):
5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Almost as if the Bible's saying the pagan gods actually exist as entities of some sort. I've read that this was a common belief among early Christians, just that they considered them demons, although "among the gods" in the verse from Psalms does have a slightly different feel to it from the passage from Corinthians, almost as if whatever these "gods" among whom God judges aren't necessarily bad.
As an aside, I've been wondering how literally every statement David makes in Psalms about God and man's nature with Him is to be taken. There's a lot of very interesting, strange stuff in there.
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So modern-day Swedes are just following in the footsteps of their cucked Viking ancestors. Nice.
The early Hebrews believed in the existence of other gods, but that Yahweh was superior to all others, so that passage from Psalms makes sense in that context. Even more so if you look at the DRB version:
There's also a lot references in the OT to the Hebrews worshiping other gods.
Looking at Corinthians, I take that to mean there are other entities which people call gods, but to the Christians there is only one god.
Emperor Constantine
Kingfisher
Cantate Domino comes right out with it: they're "idols" in MT translations and "devils" in LXX translations.
"As for all the gods of the heathen, they are but idols; but it is the LORD that made the heavens." (Psalm 96:5, Coverdale)
"For all the gods of the Gentiles are devils: but the Lord made the heavens." (Psalm 95:5, Douay Rheims Challoner Version)
You might like Christ in the Psalms by Fr. Patrick Reardon. He explains the drama aspect, and comments on each psalm. The Neale commentary is even better, with verse by verse commentary from the Church Fathers so that you can find explanations for exactly what you've got questions about. Lancelot Andrewes Press sells it, but you can also get it on the internet archive, volume 1 here.
The Nations have been handed over to ruling Spirits ever since Adam's Fall:
Those Angelic Beings are the "God's" of all the various Human Nations. Supernatural Powers in regards to the worship of the various God's is from those Beings and their servants and of course they ultimately serve under Satan. As the Top Ranking Officials of God's Ruling Body they also serve as the Top Officers in his Kingdom serving as "Princes" over the various Nations(Daniel 10:12,10:20)
They probably are incapable of original thought but makes use of existing human culture and suit themselves. Hence the repeated cultural manifestations of evil that seem identical across the globe.
Even as they are Rebels. Since Mankind are themselves sinners. They are permitted to Judicially curse and wreak havoc on the Humans as part of their Judicial responsibilities. Deception and Falsehood are forms of Judgment. As are the ruination of Human Nations in Judgment for Sin as a result of the exarcerbation of Human Evil by those same Angels.
Keeping Humans into a destructive Cycle. Evident with the Rise and Fall of all Mankind's Civilizations in history. Only Jesus Christ's Entrance would not only convict them and evict them from their positions of power over Mankind and the Cosmos. As killing Jesus is actually killing someone that is actually innocent.
But Jesus as the New Adam has the Legal Right along with Redeemed Mankind to rule once again over a Redeemed Cosmos.
www.christian-thinktank.com/victor.pdf
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Long Haired Samson
Woodpecker
This reminds me of the old website, "Stuff White People Like". Listed at #2 is this.
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#2 Religions that their parents don’t belong to
White people will often say they are “spiritual” but not religious. Which usually means that they will believe any religion that doesn’t involve Jesus.
Popular choices include Buddhism, Hinduism, Kabbalah and, to a lesser extent, Scientology. A few even dip into Islam, but it’s much more rare since you have to give stuff up and actually go to Mosque.
Mostly they are into religion that fits really well into their homes or wardrobe and doesn’t require them to do very much.