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<blockquote data-quote="redpillage" data-source="post: 1150077" data-attributes="member: 8561"><p>This is a horrible idea and doesn't make sense from a cultural, anthropological, financial, and political perspective.</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mixing of diverse culture destroys all but the most dominant one.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mixing of cultures creates internal friction and constant conflict. You are basically fixing one problem (external conflict) with another (internal conflict).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Human civilications operate best in multi layered groupings extending from the family to the neighborhood, to the city, to the region, to the state, to the nation.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">True diversity is like cooking a meal. It does not mean throwing all ingredients into a blender and mixing it all up. The goal is to create various sub regions with distinct components that complement each other, e.g. meat, potatoes, vegetables, etc. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Economically and financially speaking large regions do not function well. A good example is the European Union which is now being dominated by Germany due to its superior economic output. In part this has also led to the political chaos that's now taking place within the EU. A common currency is not a bad idea and may have worked had they stopped there. But forcing various regions to abide by the same standards will rarely work well and the United States is a very rare exception due to its unique history. And even there we see dominant forces attempting to control others or dismissing them as irrelevant, e.g. California and New York. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Once there are no more separate countries, where will you run? What happens when that large mega nation turns fascist or Marxist? E.g. the Soviet Union or Communist China? It will be very difficult to get out for one and if you succed you will be very grateful that there are alternatives to pick from. And that does not just extend to Capitalism - if you are a rabid Communist you will be happy to turn to placs like North Korea or Cuba.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I have not seen/heard one good argument against nation states and the recurring rethoric revolves around it being 'antiquated' or 'obsolete'. What exactly are you basing this perspective on? Surely there is no precedence for this every having taken place and given the above I do not see any good argument supporting the concept.</li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="redpillage, post: 1150077, member: 8561"] This is a horrible idea and doesn't make sense from a cultural, anthropological, financial, and political perspective. [list] [*]Mixing of diverse culture destroys all but the most dominant one. [*]Mixing of cultures creates internal friction and constant conflict. You are basically fixing one problem (external conflict) with another (internal conflict). [*]Human civilications operate best in multi layered groupings extending from the family to the neighborhood, to the city, to the region, to the state, to the nation. [*]True diversity is like cooking a meal. It does not mean throwing all ingredients into a blender and mixing it all up. The goal is to create various sub regions with distinct components that complement each other, e.g. meat, potatoes, vegetables, etc. [*]Economically and financially speaking large regions do not function well. A good example is the European Union which is now being dominated by Germany due to its superior economic output. In part this has also led to the political chaos that's now taking place within the EU. A common currency is not a bad idea and may have worked had they stopped there. But forcing various regions to abide by the same standards will rarely work well and the United States is a very rare exception due to its unique history. And even there we see dominant forces attempting to control others or dismissing them as irrelevant, e.g. California and New York. [*]Once there are no more separate countries, where will you run? What happens when that large mega nation turns fascist or Marxist? E.g. the Soviet Union or Communist China? It will be very difficult to get out for one and if you succed you will be very grateful that there are alternatives to pick from. And that does not just extend to Capitalism - if you are a rabid Communist you will be happy to turn to placs like North Korea or Cuba. [*]I have not seen/heard one good argument against nation states and the recurring rethoric revolves around it being 'antiquated' or 'obsolete'. What exactly are you basing this perspective on? Surely there is no precedence for this every having taken place and given the above I do not see any good argument supporting the concept. [/list] [/QUOTE]
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