Evangelical pastor renounces Christianity and divorces his wife

The Resilient

The Resilient

Ostrich
Orthodox
Days of Broken Arrows said:
I distrust "megachurches" and the people who lead them. I think they're more about spectacle than saving souls.

The men and women who lead megachurches have mega-expenses, so their main responsibility is to keep big revenue streams flowing...which means keeping the customer (i.e. the parishioner) satisfied. The messages they put out are more like commercial slogans than scripture.

This is how misguided concepts like "the prosperity gospel" came about. Preachers had to appease Yuppies who felt guilty about their energy-wasting SUVs and McMansions, so they perverted biblical passages for their benefit.

In my town, we have a church like this. They broadcast their masses online. It's ridiculous. The messages from the preachers are little different than what you'd get from Marianne Williamson or Oprah.

Josh Harris, in my opinion, was the modern-day version of the old carnival barkers. "Bring 'em into the tent, and it doesn't matter what you say to get butts in the seats."

If you're looking for a real religious community, find a small chapel in your area and go to that. The church I attended as a kid was a like a shoebox. I've never been religious per se, but I still keep in touch with a lot of the old church crowd from my youth. And you can bet the old priest we had was NOT telling that tiny crowd things he thought they wanted to hear.
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I've got many friends that are not even the slightest bit skeptical of a mega church here in the Alabama/Tennessee area. They say "Oh they got a good message blah blah blah" but I think they're just there chasing the younger feels oriented women.


That brings up another question : Does anyone have a LTR Godly game strategy that helps you keep frame, but keeps you from violating your soul with sexual sins,degenerate behaviors etc.

Women are going to be women regardless, and we know that, but what's a Godly Red Pill strategy for mate securement/dread strategy that'll keep your Godly Christian woman in check and not try to sleep with your Youth leader at your church ?

Not trying to detract from the OP, if need be, I'll start another thread.
 
infowarrior1

infowarrior1

Crow
Protestant
Easy_C said:
wwtl said:
Bain said:
Most pastors have great faith in the bible until they of course get divorced.
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How does anyone think that faith is a guarantee for a successful marriage?

Or that a bearing the cross means living the picket fences dream?
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The divorce rate for Catholics who attend mass weekly and don't use artificial contraception is about 3%.

Just throwing that out there.
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It will be quite fair to compare that the reformed or most trad protestant churches out there and the people attending weekly in America.
 
Leonard D Neubache

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
pitbullowner said:
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Not trying to detract from the OP, if need be, I'll start another thread.
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I think if you're in excellent shape and have dominant masculine frame then it doesn't matter in that regard whether you're a hardline Christian or an extreme communist.

Any woman that has values incobgruent with your faith will either get with the program or avoid you altogether so it's more of a filter than a game method.

As usual, be around the appropriate people, maintain frame and don't compromise who you are as a means to weasel into a girls panties in the hope you can reform her later.
 
TooFineAPoint

TooFineAPoint

Ostrich
Protestant
la bodhisattva said:
TooFineAPoint said:
la bodhisattva said:
decorated in lavender and flowers
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Did I miss the new red pill terms that forbid beauty and pleasant smells?

One of the greatest things about living with a woman is when she puts little touches like this around the home.
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Did I advocate for squalor, unpainted drywall, and having your mattress on the floor?

You missed the red pill that allows more things beyond lilacs and lavender to be defined as beautiful and pleasant smelling.

I have plenty of plants and flowers in and around my home, including orchids, perhaps the most dainty flower of all. I use essential oil diffusers, but I'll use sandalwood, cedarwood, or citrus scents.

I'm not against "feminine" decor, but I appreciate it in HER areas. I'm curious, does your bathroom have a flower border and do you use vanilla-coconut scented soap and shampoo? No judgment if you do. But when given a choice, most husbands prefer something more neutral and only let their wives overrun their wishes because they're completely under her thumb.
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You were hanging your hat on lavender = no respect from a woman. I get it was a turn of phrase of course.

But I agree with everything you wrote in this new post.

I have one neutral bar of soap and a safety razor. We have a firm "no knick-knacks" policy in the common areas and in my rooms.

The chick often picks fresh lavender (it grows in abundance here) and I have always found it pleasing to find it in the bathroom.

I get what you mean about the sad men with their "man caves" and then everything else looks like my grandma's house. That is weird. But then the thread escalated into "lavender is worse than soy" and, well, we ought to pump the brakes on that.
 
la bodhisattva

la bodhisattva

Kingfisher
Agreed.

I used lavender for no other reason than convenience. Everything about it is feminine...which isn't necessarily bad.

Another poster made the joke about equating it to soy. My main point was critiquing the man who says he wears the pants but whose house looks like it was decorated by Aunt Bee and wears pastel polos and light khakis to church.
 
TooFineAPoint

TooFineAPoint

Ostrich
Protestant
Yep, we're on the same page.

The Churchianity culture first wanted to appeal to more people (why??? Jesus dying for your sins is not enough?!), so they said "come as you are, don't worry about dressing up" and denied the most aggrieved people the tiny modicum of dignity they had left which is to make themselves as presentable as possible in an act of defiance to a world that had shit on them.

Then the other men looked around and said "oh, we needn't dress up, that will make these poor souls self-conscious (it wouldn't though).

Then they just said "I won't dress up anymore".

Until finally it became "I don't care what I wear. You care? Oh okay then, put out the Costco ensemble."
 
Roosh

Roosh

Cardinal
Orthodox
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Wutang

Wutang

Hummingbird
Gold Member
He just did an interview with Axios (off topic: one of my favorite sources of political news)

https://www.axios.com/josh-harris-e...ted-64674ffd-4e09-458a-8697-3d207100e11e.html

Between the lines: Harris — who has started a company called Clear & Loud to help businesses tell their stories — chose not to say what his "unrepentant sin" is, although he noted that "oftentimes, that's related to sexuality."

He didn't want to be more specific: "It's like if the answer to the question of my sexuality puts me inside or outside of your circle, accepted or unaccepted, ... I don't want to be friends, you know? F--- you and f--- your circle. That's how I feel. And so that's why I don't feel any need to answer that question."
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Stonewall Jackson

Stonewall Jackson

Robin
This guy was a big deal in the evangelical Christian "bookstore" subculture when I was growing up. Women dominate the subculture. They are the consumers, so the market brings what they want. Even Christian women who don't like homosexual acts will be seduced by closeted homosexuals.
 
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Banned
la bodhisattva said:
Western Protestantism as been facing dangerous upheaval over the last two decades. I still believe Evangelicals are still fighting against the tide of secularism, but the waves strong and there are many.

However, I can also think of few who are more blue-pilled than the naive, devout Evangelical man. The pedestalizing of women I saw in my Baptist church growing up was overwhelming. The only thing expected from a wife was cooking. They were not to be exposed to anything difficult or strenuous.

These were men who professed to be the heads of their household, while their bathrooms were decorated in lavender and flowers, their bed frames white with lace skirts, they drive a minivan or feminine SUV with a stick family decal, their wives buy their clothes and select what they wear in public, determine his style of hair.

You might say this is nitpicking on frivolity and attribute it to the man's apathy concerning domestic affairs. Not true. A man's home is his castle isn't an axiom for nothing. We care and take pride in our surroundings. No single man's house could be mistaken for a woman's, yet married men allow their homes to be overrun with decorations they'd never choose. Same for clothing and hairstyle. A lot of these guys will say the don't care about their appearance, but they do. Their behavior is just indicative of their neutered life and their wive's disregard for her husband's preferences. I find it very telling.

Show me a man with a lavender bathroom and I'll show you a man who does not have the respect of his wife.
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Evangelicals won't last. They are the buffoons of Christianity and there is evidence their very odd theology has been promoted by Jews. Certainly, their unwavering support of Israel and free labor trips to Israel is very emotionally disturbing.
 
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