Ex claims she was raped but I have problem believing her

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Hairz

 
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We were together until 4 months ago, for nearly a year. We broke up over some stupid crap that should have been resolved. My frame sort of had little trouble due to c19 mandates and I was considering changing countries to avoid it and I guess she sensed it (saw it as being indecisive) - she's a very feminine Russian lady.


After she was hurt by that guy she contacted me, we recently broke NC and started talking again.



So she’s been seeing this guy for a month until now. She was initially very perseverant, would call her few times if she didn’t pick up etc. Treated her well when they were outside. She told me that he started being manipulative, blaming her for things that were his fault etc… She told me she didn’t trust him at all.



So anyway, they had sex on 2–3 occasions. She is the type of girl that doesn’t want to sleep around, has had probably around 20 guys max in her life. First time the guy had sex with her, he just didn’t care that it hurt her, they had to stop because her whole stomach area started hurting like crazy.
Second time what she describes is that they were drunk and he basically put it in her bum without even asking and continued until finish. And apparently it hurt her very very much, she was screaming and tried to get away. She kicked him out next day for some other reason because he was rude and wanted to go through her social media.



We met and slept together a week later. We met out, she invited me over and she actually initialized sexy stuff. She didn’t show any signs of trauma until she came - she started crying, she said she felt safe with me and was sad that we didn’t stay together. That’s when she told me about all this stuff. I kind of pushed for answers because I saw she was upset.



Now what’s really strange in this whole story:

  • She does not seem mentally damaged by this, she spoke of him a lot actually and most of the time it was “he’s an asshole, he’s dangerous, psychopath” etc… not as if she has trauma related to him, she only seemed to have this moment when she cried after our sex
  • Once or twice when she mentioned their bed stuff that he was into very rough stuff or wanted sex all the time, she actually kinda giggled a bit, on another time she looked a bit proud or kind of smug when she said it
  • When I directly asked her if she said no, or stop or try to get away from him she said that she did definitely those things. So this would 100% constitute a rape. I asked her to go to the police since there still might be some genetic material from him inside her. She started making excuses about not going and reporting him
  • We met again twice since then, I am considering getting back with her because we hit it off much better this time than even before but this bugs me. I could cope that she was raped and try to get her over it but what if she’s making it up to make me feel bad and get back with her? When we meet she behaves totally normally, I don’t see any sign of trauma, she just wants to be close to me but she was always kind of like this.
  • She apparently blocked him on IG and whatsapp but still had him in FB friends until I mentioned that it might be a good idea to kick him out there too


So based on what I said, my gut is telling me that this possibly happened: she dated him, saw that he’s an ass. He was into this rough stuff and she tried it with him but didn’t like it, maybe she felt violated and used later but not raped/traumatized. Him checking her social media was the last straw + I was on the horizon already so she reached out to me and tried to add extra stuff to her story so I feel sorry for her and get back with her.


What do you think?
 

Cavalier

Kingfisher
Orthodox Catechumen
We were together until 4 months ago, for nearly a year. We broke up over some stupid crap that should have been resolved. My frame sort of had little trouble due to c19 mandates and I was considering changing countries to avoid it and I guess she sensed it (saw it as being indecisive) - she's a very feminine Russian lady.


After she was hurt by that guy she contacted me, we recently broke NC and started talking again.



So she’s been seeing this guy for a month until now. She was initially very perseverant, would call her few times if she didn’t pick up etc. Treated her well when they were outside. She told me that he started being manipulative, blaming her for things that were his fault etc… She told me she didn’t trust him at all.



So anyway, they had sex on 2–3 occasions. She is the type of girl that doesn’t want to sleep around, has had probably around 20 guys max in her life. First time the guy had sex with her, he just didn’t care that it hurt her, they had to stop because her whole stomach area started hurting like crazy.
Second time what she describes is that they were drunk and he basically put it in her bum without even asking and continued until finish. And apparently it hurt her very very much, she was screaming and tried to get away. She kicked him out next day for some other reason because he was rude and wanted to go through her social media.



We met and slept together a week later. We met out, she invited me over and she actually initialized sexy stuff. She didn’t show any signs of trauma until she came - she started crying, she said she felt safe with me and was sad that we didn’t stay together. That’s when she told me about all this stuff. I kind of pushed for answers because I saw she was upset.



Now what’s really strange in this whole story:

  • She does not seem mentally damaged by this, she spoke of him a lot actually and most of the time it was “he’s an asshole, he’s dangerous, psychopath” etc… not as if she has trauma related to him, she only seemed to have this moment when she cried after our sex
  • Once or twice when she mentioned their bed stuff that he was into very rough stuff or wanted sex all the time, she actually kinda giggled a bit, on another time she looked a bit proud or kind of smug when she said it
  • When I directly asked her if she said no, or stop or try to get away from him she said that she did definitely those things. So this would 100% constitute a rape. I asked her to go to the police since there still might be some genetic material from him inside her. She started making excuses about not going and reporting him
  • We met again twice since then, I am considering getting back with her because we hit it off much better this time than even before but this bugs me. I could cope that she was raped and try to get her over it but what if she’s making it up to make me feel bad and get back with her? When we meet she behaves totally normally, I don’t see any sign of trauma, she just wants to be close to me but she was always kind of like this.
  • She apparently blocked him on IG and whatsapp but still had him in FB friends until I mentioned that it might be a good idea to kick him out there too


So based on what I said, my gut is telling me that this possibly happened: she dated him, saw that he’s an ass. He was into this rough stuff and she tried it with him but didn’t like it, maybe she felt violated and used later but not raped/traumatized. Him checking her social media was the last straw + I was on the horizon already so she reached out to me and tried to add extra stuff to her story so I feel sorry for her and get back with her.


What do you think?
I think a woman that has had 20 men max as you state, definitely is a bit of a slut.
 

Hairz

 
Banned
Well, considering that most of the females before 30 that I know have 200+ I think she's doing fine in the west.
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
The dynamic here appears to be the PUA saying beta bucks, alpha f's. She went for a so called short term alpha guy for the fun and emotional stimulation, now blames that on him as women always blame everything on the other, hoping that you'lll take her back as I assume you're more of the stable, good, normal guy type. It's a common dynamic but you'll get the baggage too when taking her back be aware of that.
 

Hairz

 
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The dynamic here appears to be the PUA saying beta bucks, alpha f's. She went for a so called short term alpha guy for the fun and emotional stimulation, now blames that on him as women always blame everything on the other, hoping that you'lll take her back as I assume you're more of the stable, good, normal guy type. It's a common dynamic but you'll get the baggage too when taking her back be aware of that.
That's the answer I was looking for. I kind of figured as much just needed a confirmation. Except 1 bit, that guy was apparently spending on her 100-300 Euro every time they went out. Actually our main argument was over money and commitment - she expected me to pay for her all time time and I was just ok paying 60-70% of the time.
 

StardustRevenant

Pigeon
Other Christian
That just makes her less of a slut. I would have nothing to do with such a woman.
If he considers 20 past sexual partners acceptable, then it's very bad. The whole thing almost feels like a troll post you see on Reddit. From my personal experience, a woman who has been with 3+ guys is almost always unmarriageable. It seems that it's not obvious enough for some men that even 1 or 2 casual sexual encounters messes up a girl. I'd rather break up with such a woman as I do not want the mother of my children to be a slut.
 
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