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<blockquote data-quote="debeguiled" data-source="post: 1095313" data-attributes="member: 7867">The problem with understanding supernatural experiences is that there is always a reasonably plausible explanation that can dismiss them out of hand.People who undergo these sorts of things usually have a gut reaction that they are experiencing something out of the ordinary, something that is, in many cases &quot;realer than real.&quot;Neither science nor psychology will ever have a way of measuring this or explaining it, but they pretend to.It all relates to the character of the person having the experience, and their truthfulness, and their ability to&nbsp; distinguish the unsettling from the supernatural.Dismissing experiences like this with easy explanations (sleep paralysis + guilt), satisfying as it is, doesn't really add to the discussion.Too easy.Jesus wasn't a savior, he was just a guy who ate mushrooms.Saints in past times didn't levitate, they just jumped real high in smoky dark rooms and people back then were stupid and couldn't figure it out.There are no mystic visions, only epileptic seizures and brain tumors.People are never mysteriously healed of terminal cancer, they just experience spontaneous remissions.No one has ever had a Near Death Experience, they just had a dream and a squirt of dopamine.Sometimes these explanations seem as faith based as any supernatural explanation.Like holding up a cross to ward off a demon.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="debeguiled, post: 1095313, member: 7867"] The problem with understanding supernatural experiences is that there is always a reasonably plausible explanation that can dismiss them out of hand. People who undergo these sorts of things usually have a gut reaction that they are experiencing something out of the ordinary, something that is, in many cases "realer than real." Neither science nor psychology will ever have a way of measuring this or explaining it, but they pretend to. It all relates to the character of the person having the experience, and their truthfulness, and their ability to distinguish the unsettling from the supernatural. Dismissing experiences like this with easy explanations (sleep paralysis + guilt), satisfying as it is, doesn't really add to the discussion. Too easy. Jesus wasn't a savior, he was just a guy who ate mushrooms. Saints in past times didn't levitate, they just jumped real high in smoky dark rooms and people back then were stupid and couldn't figure it out. There are no mystic visions, only epileptic seizures and brain tumors. People are never mysteriously healed of terminal cancer, they just experience [i]spontaneous remissions.[/i] No one has ever had a Near Death Experience, they just had a dream and a squirt of dopamine. Sometimes these explanations seem as faith based as any supernatural explanation. Like holding up a cross to ward off a demon. [/QUOTE]

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