Fasting

TheMost

Robin
It just sounds more difficult. Dry fasting is actually easier. Also has many benefits, faster weight loss, faster autophagy, more stem cell production, and so on and so on.
 

Zagor

Robin
Is there any research done about it? Research about fasting are few and far between, I'd be very surprised if there's any research out there comparing water only fasting and dry fasting and confirming that dry fasting actually has more benefits. All the benefits listed in the article two posts above and the ones you mention you also get from water only fasts.
 

Pavel

Newbie
I have been trying to do fasting as I am close to 40 and hate my dad bod. I eat normally at 11am and one meal on 5pm. But I really struggle going to sleep hungry. A lot of time I break my fast late night. Sometimes I open a beer watching a movie late night after a long long day. I know it's my own weakness and lack of discipline.
 

redonion

Woodpecker
I have been trying to do fasting as I am close to 40 and hate my dad bod. I eat normally at 11am and one meal on 5pm. But I really struggle going to sleep hungry. A lot of time I break my fast late night. Sometimes I open a beer watching a movie late night after a long long day. I know it's my own weakness and lack of discipline.

Why not push your meals back to 1pm and 7pm?

It's easier to fast in the mornings in my experience, since you can drink black coffee to curb your hunger.
 

Pavel

Newbie
Why not push your meals back to 1pm and 7pm?

It's easier to fast in the mornings in my experience, since you can drink black coffee to curb your hunger.
That's a good idea. My day usually starts at 7:00. I'm at my desk around 8:00. It would be a good 5 hours without anything :)
 

Salocin

Robin
One thing I would caution people about, is that while intermittent fasting does work for weight loss, it also increases cortisol.

Keep that in mind if you're already under stress, since there could be better approaches to lose weight.
Exercise also increases cortisol...
 

NickK

Sparrow
I fast on Wednesdays and Fridays as per the Orthodox calendar.
Sometimes I get headaches, which go away if I break the fast.
Am I doing it wrong?
 

Enigma

Hummingbird
Gold Member
I fast on Wednesdays and Fridays as per the Orthodox calendar.
Sometimes I get headaches, which go away if I break the fast.
Am I doing it wrong?

You shouldn't get headaches from fasting.

How is your diet? Are you drinking enough water?
 

NickK

Sparrow
I usually try to eat 1 meal per day but 2-4 times per week it's fast food. I'm also big on pasta, because it's easy to cook.
Frankly, it doesn't sound too good, does it...
 

Enigma

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Yeah, it might help cleaning up your diet a bit; you can also try getting in more electrolytes (sodium, potassium, magnesium), either through food or supplements. I know low electrolytes can cause headaches on a low-carb/keto diet.
 
Grab potassium supplement such as potassium bicarbonate or tatar-both in powder forms, and magnesium supplement. You want these for when you are fasting, although these are not at all necessary if you are fasting only a day at a time. These are necessary while on keto diet though.

Fast foods can fuck you up though-these contain toxins which your body is eliminating while fasting and may cause headache. If you are consuming fast foods that much, it'd take at least two to four weeks to eliminate the toxins, excess salt and sugar. Only then can you know if headaches will away while fasting.
 
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NickK

Sparrow
Yeah, it might help cleaning up your diet a bit; you can also try getting in more electrolytes (sodium, potassium, magnesium), either through food or supplements. I know low electrolytes can cause headaches on a low-carb/keto diet.
Thanks, maybe that's the cause of my headaches. I don't trust supplements.
A google search for electrolyte-rich foods yielded bananas and watermelons among others, but these two I like and they are available and cheap in my region.

Fast food can fuck you up though-these contain toxins which your body is eliminating while fasting and may cause headache. If you are consuming fast foods that much, it'd take at least two to four weeks to eliminate the toxins, excess salt and sugar. Only then can you know if headaches will away while fasting.
Wow, two to four weeks...
There is a 15-day fast coming in August. Even olive oil is denied, except on weekends.
Good opportunity to detox all the junk I ate since Lent ended.

Question: does eating watermelon or other fruits or nuts break the transition to keto?
 
If you are leaning into keto state, you can't consume any foods containing sugars or carbs until you are fully into keto state. This takes about a week After that, the amount of carbs and sugar you can consume and still remain in keto state depends largely on how much fat/energy you burn during the day and your metabolism. If you are not working out or being physically active, then obviously it takes much less to kick you out. I'd say for those on non-physical regime, you can consume under 40 grams of carbs excluding any form of sugar, including fruits, unless you have only one serving of fruit (which normally already reaches at least 30 grams of carbs with one serving of banana or two servings of berries) and no other source of carbs. Some physical active people can take in 75-100 grams of carbs-less than half of which is sugar-and still remain in keto state. I once ate at least 100 grams worth of carbs from chips and beers, after having been fully in keto state for a week and was surprised to find out through keto urine strip in the next two days I still remained deeply in keto state. I did 4 hours worth of running or exercise plus caloric deficient diet on nuts and meats during keto week prior to eating beers/chips. As with any type of diet/fasting/supplements, it takes time to figure out how your body best perform, and under certain conditions.

You can consume one fruit or two while in transition to keto state, but obviously reaching keto state would take longer by at least few days to fully enter keto state and that without other form of carbs.
 

R.G.Camara

Woodpecker
I decided to do a fast recently after a solid month of indulgence thanks to travel (2 weeks having a houseguest and having meals with them, 2 weeks on the road/in a far-away city where we were ordering food or being treated). So I needed a detox.

I've been on a fast for a week now. Only eat between 3pm-12am, the 3pm meal is small (less than 400 calories, usually just few eggs), the dinner is the main meal, no dessert. I also cut out all alcohol.

It's been ok. The detox feels good, but I broke the fast once thanks to a bad day and had a few glasses of whiskey. I was tempted another night to drink, ended up having a super-large ice cream sundae to stop it (its a true old wives tale that people with a sweet tooth are prone to be alcoholics).
 

An0dyne

Robin
Fasting means absolutely no food. Btw.

Yes, though I suppose technically any time you are not eating you are "fasting," technically, but typically the concept of "fasting" denotes a longer period of time.
 
Mormons fast the first Sunday of the month, called "Fast Sunday." They generally miss breakfast and lunch, so it is not a full 24 hour fast. But I remember as a teen, thinking I would die of hunger! Lol People calculate the money they saved by not eating, and then donate it to a particular church fund, to help the hungry in their area.

As I got older I developed respect for the practice of fasting, and now it is highly esteemed by the medical/nutritional community. I want to develop the discipline to do it once a week for a full 24 hours, for both physical and spiritual strengthening. As Christ said, "some demons only come out by much fasting and prayer!" And "demons" could be taken literally or symbolically, in terms of life challenges. I think fasting could be a key for me to make progress in my life and grow closer to God.

I have never fasted for 2-3 days, and I suppose that is usually done while drinking water, to keep hydrated. And for an even longer fast, a person could add something like natural fruit juices.

I find the Muslim practice during Ramadan, of only eating one meal after sundown, to be very interesting.
 
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