Fasting

BasilSeal

Kingfisher
Trad Catholic
Gold Member
Was there weight training involved sorry if i didn't catch that?
No. Any exercise is really casual. I walk a few miles every evening with my wife. That's the only consistent exercise.

Here are some blood work 30 day numbers (before and after), for those interested. All of the following went red to to green (HDL was fine, now just a little better). Like I said, dramatic changes. Will retest at the end of November for a 3rd data point.

GGT18243
Chol Tot278129
HDL4143
Trig55895
Chol/HDLC ratio6.83
LDL/HDLCan't compute due to high Trig.1.6
Non-HDL23786
 

Grow Bag

Pelican
Catholic
OMAD is very effective and has many benefits, not least among them is you only have one meal to cook. And it's interesting to read how people get on with it. Because of this I think OMAD should have it's own thread really. Fasting, and I consider fasting ingesting zero calories over 24 hours and often lasting for a number of days, is a big step up from OMAD. It is indeed arduous, but has many marvellous benefits that OMAD does not. Not least of these are spiritual benefits. Maybe I'll start a thread 'Water Fasting' at some point. Interesting thread though.
 

Knight.of.Logos

Woodpecker
Orthodox
I'm getting back into a 16:8 fasting schedule. I'll drink some black coffee or green tea during the fast, but nothing with calories. Feeling good, more energetic and on it at work. I do miss putting cream in my coffee though, but I think it is worth skipping it at least sometimes.

Eventually, I'd like to start doing OMAD once a day, going complete days without food (will try to coordinate this with Orthodox calendar), and potentially even multi-day fasts. I find 16:8 fasting quite easy, even a 20:4 type fasting isn't too bad, but OMAD and all-day fasting are a bit difficult for me. I am going to try to look at them more as a spiritual struggle and less of a beneficial physical thing, and see how that changes it.
 

PolishCalifornian

Robin
Catholic
I'm getting back into a 16:8 fasting schedule. I'll drink some black coffee or green tea during the fast, but nothing with calories. Feeling good, more energetic and on it at work. I do miss putting cream in my coffee though, but I think it is worth skipping it at least sometimes.

Eventually, I'd like to start doing OMAD once a day, going complete days without food (will try to coordinate this with Orthodox calendar), and potentially even multi-day fasts. I find 16:8 fasting quite easy, even a 20:4 type fasting isn't too bad, but OMAD and all-day fasting are a bit difficult for me. I am going to try to look at them more as a spiritual struggle and less of a beneficial physical thing, and see how that changes it.
Just started a 16:8 fasting routine too (and no alcohol), lost 3 lbs in less than a week already. Not snacking in the evenings has been helping with sleep as well. I’m not counting calories and all that but this first step has helped me to clarify where I can tighten up my diet if I choose to. I’ve quit dieting many times before when life and stress have gotten in the way, so I am trying to ease into it as a deliberate, consistent habit sustained for the long term. Maybe I’ll be more flexible once Thanksgiving and Christmas roll around, but it’s like with lifting weights, do it as often that you reasonably can so when something inevitably interferes you have reserves of progress for some flexibility.
 

02Hero

 
Banned
Other Christian
Fasting works but most people are already severely depleted in some minerals (while toxic in others). Fasting will make this depletion worse. With that I mean 10-30 day fasts.
 

Nomadiccat

 
Banned
Oriental Orthodox
Has anyone here explored the health benefits of fasting with regard to autophagy? I heard it can help with cancers and scar tissue.
A lot of science on that, cancer-prevention through fasting works not only through autophagy but through a bunch of other mechanisms.
This applies to caloric restriction in general, including fasting or just simple daily calorie restriction, or even the old wisdom of never eating until full.

A diagram from this article

CalorieIntake.jpg
 

Cr33pin

Peacock
Other Christian
Gold Member
Is there a electrolyte powder you can take when trying to do a prolonged fast? Like a 3-7 day fast?
Everything I try to find on Amazon ties into "Keto" and no real mention of just wanting to replenish electrolytes without risking breaking a fast...

Is it as simple as if these packets or pills have no calories or fats it wont break a fast?

50 hours is my longest fast thus far but I want to eventually work my way up to a 7 fast at some point.
 

Salocin

Woodpecker
Other Christian
I believe dissolving some salt in your water is all that is necessary to gain needed electrolytes during a fast.

A tablespoon of salt contains 0 calories.
 

mountainaire

Kingfisher
Orthodox Inquirer
Is there a electrolyte powder you can take when trying to do a prolonged fast? Like a 3-7 day fast?
Everything I try to find on Amazon ties into "Keto" and no real mention of just wanting to replenish electrolytes without risking breaking a fast...

Is it as simple as if these packets or pills have no calories or fats it wont break a fast?

50 hours is my longest fast thus far but I want to eventually work my way up to a 7 fast at some point.
You can make it yourself. Check this video.There is some foul language, but it's very useful information.

 

Akaky Akakievitch

Kingfisher
Orthodox
Is there a electrolyte powder you can take when trying to do a prolonged fast? Like a 3-7 day fast?
Everything I try to find on Amazon ties into "Keto" and no real mention of just wanting to replenish electrolytes without risking breaking a fast...

Is it as simple as if these packets or pills have no calories or fats it wont break a fast?

50 hours is my longest fast thus far but I want to eventually work my way up to a 7 fast at some point.

It depends on what constitutes "breaking a fast" for you. Some people would say honey or a simple piece of fruit would be breaking it, others are more lenient. I'm keen to try some extended fasts soon but haven't started planning/prepping yet, this gives me a chance to do it.

I've heard some people do watermelon fasts or apple fasts too, which eases the burden but still brings the overall benefits of fasting, although everyone is different. Personally I would prefer just a water fast and to ride it out as long as i could, having an electrolyte drink on-hand, as you propose, in case it's sorely needed during weaker moments.

It's probably better to do a water-only fast intermittently and steadily increase from 1 day, to 2 days, 3 days, 5 days, 7 days etc. increasing resilience, rather than rely too much on an Electrolyte drink to get you through it each time. But everyone's different, i'm just riffing on some options here.

I found these links for DIY Electrolyte drinks:




I like the last one, which includes a Magnesium supplement in the recipe, although this would be more suitable if you were doing quite physical activities on the fast, as i suppose generally this applies to post-workout scenario, but to be fair we're all probably falling short on magnesium these days anyway and it would aid you during a fast.
 

rainy

Pelican
Other Christian
Is there a electrolyte powder you can take when trying to do a prolonged fast? Like a 3-7 day fast?
Everything I try to find on Amazon ties into "Keto" and no real mention of just wanting to replenish electrolytes without risking breaking a fast...

Is it as simple as if these packets or pills have no calories or fats it wont break a fast?

50 hours is my longest fast thus far but I want to eventually work my way up to a 7 fast at some point.
I got packet version of this from Walmart for my fast last weekend.


Can make your own, I have, but liked the convenience of carrying a couple packets with me if I needed them when out and about as I wasn’t just sitting at home. These were enough to get me thru my 70hr+ fast I just completed and I’d never gone more than 36 hrs previously.

A step above would be including pink Himalayan salt. I know the snake diet packets have that but those are more expensive.

Amazon product

Btw I’d say expensive is relative. You’re still saving money vs groceries for a few days.
 
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